Spurs reach agreement with Jeff Pendergraph (Report: 2 Year, ~$4 million)

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Originally Posted by Chomag

Never addressed the back up SF issue, and im not convinced over the back up PG spot either. Lame off-season, but ya Spurs.

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Yeah, PG by committee again.

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Originally Posted by TheGoldStandard

So 4 Million to a guy who'll maybe play in 20 games? Spurs don't play a deep bench, Baynes was limited last year so I expect him to get some minutes.. not a lot of minutes to go around with 7 guards on the floor, 6 bigs and only 2 small forwards.. Ugh, this reeks.

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we have 2??

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Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger

we have 2??

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Typo.. 1.. lol 14 on a team, sorry.. I guess this starts new project.. converting bigs to a small forward.

They must really believe in this guy to replace Bonner's role to give him that type of money.

They must also really believe in Thomas to not have addressed the SF situation by now. That or we're just playing smallball all year.

So who's the Spurs backup SF?

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Originally Posted by justinandimcool

They must really believe in this guy to replace Bonner's role to give him that type of money.

They must also really believe in Thomas to not have addressed the SF situation by now. That or we're just playing smallball all year.

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The 2nd thing.. small ball, yup that's probably it. Bonner is moving to the SF position.

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Originally Posted by picnroll

So who's the Spurs backup SF?

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Manu/Marco/Bonner

Meh. I can live with it as long as he doesnt try to introduce that bullshite pregame dance/yell routine he had up in Indiana.

Damn peoples, reading this thread is depressing as hell. The Spurs already have what they need for the next two years, right now they are working on the future. Anyone should know that these "bigger" name players cannot fit into the Spurs offense in a year. Spurs got this shit!

So why did we draft and stash again... Who is the 15th player? Deshaun Thomas or Chancey Billups... There was a real opening for Living at SF in the end...

As usual. idiot armchair GM's jump off the cliff and declare off-season a failure. This is happens every off-season. Just like clockwork. Go back to last off-season's threads and you'll see identical posts all over the place. Fact is, you all have no clue what you're talking about. This fact has been proven over and over and over again.

Spurs are in great shape going into next season. Core returns and young pieces on the roster will continue to develop and improve. We also have an extra roster spot left open going into next season just in case another key player comes available through amnesty or gets waived. It's prudent and smart to keep an extra roster spot open in the event a key player becomes available. That's how were able to add Diaw, Neal and Baynes. While everyone else blows their wad filling all 15 roster spots, we maintain flexibility. You never know, someone like Deshaun Thomas or another player will dominate Summer League and earn that spot.

All of you pretend GM's and cap experts would fail miserably if someone actually were stupid enough to allow you to put together an NBA roster.

I honestly wouldn't put it past Pop forcing Bonner into the SF position this season just to try to keep him relevant on the roster. Oh God... what am I saying!?!

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Originally Posted by Birn

As usual. idiot armchair GM's jump off the cliff and declare off-season a failure. This is happens every off-season. Just like clockwork. Go back to last off-season's threads and you'll see identical posts all over the place. Fact is, you all have no clue what you're talking about. This fact has been proven over and over and over again.

Spurs are in great shape going into next season. Core returns and young pieces on the roster will continue to develop and improve. We also have an extra roster spot left open going into next season just in case another key player comes available through amnesty or gets waived. It's prudent and smart to keep an extra roster spot open in the event a key player becomes available. That's how were able to add Diaw, Neal and Baynes. While everyone else blows their wad filling all 15 roster spots, we maintain flexibility. You never know, someone like Deshaun Thomas or another player will dominate Summer League and earn that spot.

All of you pretend GM's and cap experts would fail miserably if someone actually were stupid enough to allow you to put together an NBA roster.

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I like you already!

This is not like any other off season because the spurs really had a legit chance of cementing themselves in the west. Paying a scrub 2 Million dollars. :td

I guess this means we're running Kawhi Leonard to the ground. Hope his knees are ok. The spurs still is the best team in the west anyway. We just gotta hope Green develops a somewhat sufficient dribble game enough to score a floater, Splitter learns to board against smaller defender and Cojo develop as a good back-up.

4/10 offseason considering the chances.

I don't think anyone is cliff jumping here. They could still win the championship even with the current squad, that doesn't take away the fact that it was a bad offseason.

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Originally Posted by Chomag

I honestly wouldn't put it past Pop forcing Bonner into the SF position this season just to try to keep him relevant on the roster. Oh God... what am I saying!?!

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You're crazy. We only had one true SF during our finals run this last season. We'll probably go into the season with Belinelli/Ginobili splitting time there behind Leonard.

The "do the bare minimum" franchise strikes again. Anyone who didn't see this outcome hasn't been paying attention the last few years. A crapshoot for the backup pg and sf position and still one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. For the thirs sgraight year, the Spurs did nothing to address the team's weaknessess. The Spurs front office isn't as smart as the media and experts make them out to be.

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Originally Posted by Chomag

I honestly wouldn't put it past Pop forcing Bonner into the SF position this season just to try to keep him relevant on the roster. Oh God... what am I saying!?!

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That small potatoes. Wait until they resign him in the offseason.

Diaw can play minutes at SF, as can Manu, Green, and Pendergraph. Our biggest problem wasn't/isn't a backup SF, it is someone who can create off the dribble not named Tony Parker. In that sense, the offseason was lackluster, but it's pretty funny to have so many people cliffjumping in July. The writing was on the wall after the Splitter and Manu deals.

On the bright side, at least we're not OKC. They lost Martin and didn't add anybody significant on the perimeter to replace him, using their 12th pick on an unproven big. They better hope they can develop Lamb, and fast.

GSW added Iggy but lost Jack and Landry.

Denver got much worse.

Memphis fired their coach and got Koufos.

Clippers probably had the best offseason in the West but had to give up Bledsoe, plus they're still the Clippers.

Lakers will miss the playoffs this season.

Houston got much better, but they'll need at least a year before making any noise.

So who exactly is going to dethrone us in the West? We plowed through the playoffs at 12-2 and nobody got significantly better. If things basically stand where they are, it will be OKC and us in the WCF barring miracles or injuries.

The problem is, just because Spurs fans want a player to be signed and the Spurs have the cap flexibity, that does not make it a reality.

Some of you are rather fucking stupid.

Pretty gruesome details coming out. It's really unfortunate. The Spurs spent 5M and don't have any reasonable expectations of being better or improving an area of need. Getting a 6th big makes entirely no sense and getting another guard with questionable abilities/limitations for that money really makes very little sense.

It's particularly mind-numbing when you consider the draft. There were seemingly a lot better upside players (we will see) than who they drafted and if you aren't needing cap space (thanks, Manu) no need to draft and stash for someone who by all accounts doesn't even look like that good of a prospect.

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Originally Posted by Baam

So why did we draft and stash again... Who is the 15th player? Deshaun Thomas or Chancey Billups... There was a real opening for Living at SF in the end...

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spurs had plans to get somone
they could have said no
hell mark cuban has been trying to get dirk help and they keep saying FUCK YOu

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

Diaw can play minutes at SF, as can Manu, Green, and Pendergraph. Our biggest problem wasn't/isn't a backup SF, it is someone who can create off the dribble not named Tony Parker. In that sense, the offseason was lackluster, but it's pretty funny to have so many people cliffjumping in July. The writing was on the wall after the Splitter and Manu deals.

On the bright side, at least we're not OKC. They lost Martin and didn't add anybody significant on the perimeter to replace him, using their 12th pick on an unproven big. They better hope they can develop Lamb, and fast.

GSW added Iggy but lost Jack and Landry.

Denver got much worse.

Memphis fired their coach and got Koufos.

Clippers probably had the best offseason in the West but had to give up Bledsoe, plus they're still the Clippers.

Lakers will miss the playoffs this season.

Houston got much better, but they'll need at least a year before making any noise.

So who exactly is going to dethrone us in the West? We plowed through the playoffs at 12-2 and nobody got significantly better. If things basically stand where they are, it will be OKC and us in the WCF barring miracles or injuries.

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All true. But the problem that I see is that if we reach the Finals, we will most likely have to face Miami once again. We did not address the issues that plagued us during that series. Yeah, I know we were that close, but is it a given that we will be that close again? Manu might regress even further and who's to say that Duncan will continue to play as well as he has. I wanted a back up PG signing this off season, but I guess PG by committee will be par for the course once again.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

The "do the bare minimum" franchise strikes again. Anyone who didn't see this outcome hasn't been paying attention the last few years. A crapshoot for the backup pg and sf position and still one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. For the thirs sgraight year, the Spurs did nothing to address the team's weaknessess. The Spurs front office isn't as smart as the media and experts make them out to be.

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LOL!!!! The Spurs made the Finals and Western Conference Finals the past two seasons, clown. Our front office is the envy of the entire sports world and their skill at evaluating and bringing in the right championship talent has been proven and well chronicled over the past 15 years.

A lot of things have to go well. Manu took a rather large deal and will he hold up physically? What about mentally? He thinks he did so-so in the finals? Can Tim have as great of a season as he did last year? What about TP repeating an MVP-like season?

Spurs had such a fantastic year, but both internally (Tim staying healthy and turning back the clock, TP MVP season) and externally (Westbrook going down) they seemingly had all the stars align to make that epic run where Manu let them down. They needed to improve (and who knows, these two guys may improve them, it's just not reasonable to expect them to based on what we know) and it definitely feels like a missed opportunity and perhaps they were a little over confident about the success from last season. We will just have to see how it shakes out.

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Originally Posted by SpursRock20

All true. But the problem that I see is that if we reach the Finals, we will most likely have to face Miami once again. We did not address the issues that plagued us during that series. Yeah, I know we were that close, but is it a given that we will be that close again? Manu might regress even further and who's to say that Duncan will continue to play as well as he has. I wanted a back up PG signing this off season, but I guess PG by committee will be par for the course once again.

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Agreed, which is why I was hoping for a Jarret Jack-type player. Many things have to go right to ring, and at this point to me the key is going to be Manu having a Duncan-esque resurgent season. It's a long shot, but since he most likely won't be participating in his true passion this summer (international play) and grinding his body down before the season even begins, there's a chance it can happen.