Spurs out as possible AK47 suitor

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Martin and Minny have still agreed on an above MLE deal ($28M/4 years). This S&T would allow Minny to have the MLE+LLE left instead of the room exception.

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I don't think the Minny FO is that smart.

The Spurs working out Gelabale doesn't make me optimistic... But I at least hope he doesn't end up on the Rockets or OKC...

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Originally Posted by SpursSerb

At this point i would happy with just Kirilenko not going to OKC.

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I wouldn't worry about it. They let Martin walk because they refuse to pay the tax and the players they've been rumored interested in, Wright and Delfino, are room exception caliber players and even one of them, in addition to signing their draft picks and a third PG, will make it difficult to avoid the tax.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

I wouldn't worry about it. They let Martin walk because they refuse to pay the tax and the players they've been rumored interested in, Wright and Delfino, are room exception caliber players and even one of them, in addition to signing their draft picks and a third PG, will make it difficult to avoid the tax.

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What about the Rockets? Asik for AK?

I just hope he goes somewhere soon so we can either celebrate or cry. Lol

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Bruno, I know you want AK47 badly, I do to, but isn't this a bit of a stretch?

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Yep, it's a wild speculation. It isn't impossible because Spurs have been said to be interested in Kirilenko and because this trade quite makes sense for all the teams involved, but it remains highly unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Baam

What about the Rockets? Asik for AK?

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Asik wants to start, he would have the same issue in Minny, where he would be playing behind Love and Pekovic(assuming they keep him, which seems to be their plan), tbh..

very strange team or team is not leaked what the sign and trade would be
very spur like in that aspect
NOT SAYING SPURS ARE TEAM

Plus I keep remembering he is good friends with TP and it would make the most sense for him to want to come here, but as you said, highly unlikely it happens, just wish it would.

The Spurs aren't trading Bonner.

A simpler version of that fantasy trade could be:
Spurs trade Bonner+De Colo for Kirilenko
Minny trade Kirilenko for a TE
Utah trade cap space for Bonner and De Colo

Spurs would send cash to Utah to cover Bonner's buyout.

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Originally Posted by SpursSerb

So a deal involving just Spurs and Wolves is not possible?

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it is if they can agree on something

trades like this ususally involve a player and a second round pick

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Originally Posted by Bruno

A simpler version of that fantasy trade could be:
Spurs trade Bonner+De Colo for Kirilenko
Minny trade Kirilenko for a TE
Utah trade cap space for Bonner and De Colo

Spurs would send cash to Utah to cover Bonner's buyout.

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Lets say something like this happens and Bonner is bought out. Aren't there rules in place now to discourage the origin team from taking him back? Because I seriously doubt the Spurs will let Bonner go, don't know why, but they love this guy despite all his faults.

AK47 is still a decent player but he wouldn't be a better SF option than Leonard. Playing him at PF? This would've sounded nice before Splitter was signed to the 4yr/36m contract. If AK47 only wants a ring w/o giving a shit about whatever pay and role he's gonna get, he will choose Miami over the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

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I expect AK to go to Dallas or Atl.

The Spurs aren't trading Bonner and not getting AK. They'll either get someone from the Summer leagues or a player cut after the preseason. They'll sign the guy, stick him to the end of the bench, send him to Austin for a few games, and play sparingly the second half of the season.

Manu, Green, Beli, and Diaw will probably play back up SF by committee.

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Originally Posted by weebo

The Spurs aren't trading Bonner and not getting AK. They'll either get someone from the Summer leagues or a player cut after the preseason. They'll sign the guy, stick him to the end of the bench, send him to Austin for a few games, and play sparingly the second half of the season.

Manu, Green, Beli, and Diaw will probably play back up SF by committee.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS!

I'm pretty sure Belinelli is going to be our backup SF, tbh. Is it ideal? Eh, maybe not, but it's going to be the way it is.

AK47 is mostly a pipe dream, tbh, though I do hope it happens. I doubt a player of his caliber wants to be a bench player, though.

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Originally Posted by Mel_13

Excellent point.

So many want to assume that the Spurs had a plan to create and use cap space. We'll never know it that was ever the case. Even if they did have AK47 as a possible target, that plan could have died on initial contact with AK's agent if he told the Spurs that a 2 year deal wouldn't be considered. The Spurs had to go beyond 2015 with Splitter, as they will with Kawhi, but they very well may have drawn the line right there.

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I remember AK state that he opted out because of the lenght of his contract. asked what number of years he is seeking he answered: at least 3. 2015 will be the year of the re start of the Spurs franchise. it might take a max (or at least borderline max) contract to keep Kawhi. Tiago costs about 10 million for 2015-16. depending on what happens with Tony Spurs might have the cap room for a max FA. if they sign AK for 3 years, this scenario is dead. (call it the Kevin Love scenario)
no doubt Spurs were interested in AK. no doubt they didn't offer more that 2 years. so, no doubt as well, that they never had a legit chance to get him.

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Originally Posted by xmas1997

Lets say something like this happens and Bonner is bought out. Aren't there rules in place now to discourage the origin team from taking him back? Because I seriously doubt the Spurs will let Bonner go, don't know why, but they love this guy despite all his faults.

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Spurs won't be able to re-sign him but the "love affair" between Pop and Bonner is highly overrated.

This year, Bonner played 909 minutes in the regular season while Blair played 851 minutes and De Colo 920 minutes. In the playoffs, he played 267 minutes but if you take away the first 5 games where Diaw and/or Splitter were injured, he played 146 minutes in the last 16 games which makes 9.1 mpg.

I don't think Spurs decision of keeping him for a cost of $3M was that easy to take and it's fully possible that the deadline did indeed get pushed and Spurs are still working on what to do with his partially guaranteed contract.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Spurs won't be able to re-sign him but the "love affair" between Pop and Bonner is highly overrated.

This year, Bonner played 909 minutes in the regular season while Blair played 851 minutes and De Colo 920 minutes. In the playoffs, he played 267 minutes but if you take away the first 5 games where Diaw and/or Splitter were injured, he played 146 minutes in the last 16 games which makes 9.1 mpg.

I don't think Spurs decision of keeping him for a cost of $3M was that easy to take and it's fully possible that the deadline did indeed get pushed and Spurs are still working on what to do with his partially guaranteed contract.

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And add to the fact that they have now got 5 Frontcourt players already - Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, Baynes, Pendergraph and Bonner is clearly going to be either the 5th or the 6th big in that list if he is included... in that case, the Spurs are definitely going to overpay him if they intend to keep him.

I doubt if the intention is to retain him and I think the Spurs are trying to trade his expiring contract.

I also think, for all his flaws and faults, Bonner is very tradeable for his unique value.

freaking belinelli :depressed

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Originally Posted by Raven

freaking belinelli :depressed

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Yeah, sucks to upgrade depth.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Yeah, sucks to upgrade depth.

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neal >>> belinelli