Danny Green shooting jumpers off the dribble....

Jk bout Gary getting more $ the Green lol

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Again, shooting off the dribble after one or two dribbles already makes Green a lot more than just a spot-up shooter, which if you remember is the entire point over which we disagreed initially. No one thinks he's a good driver, or step-back shooter. He has to develop a better mid-range game for sure. But there's a market difference between a pure spot-up shooter like Mike Miller and a shooter like Green.

Also, Ginobili was actually good from mid-range, especially off a step-back. Don't let his bad shooting last year cloud that fact.

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I've seen it before just wouldn't really say its in his game tho..

But man if Manu had a mid range game it'd really help his scoring issues..and his forced turnovers

Danny has to develop more of a game than standing behind the 3 point line, simple as that. Even Neal has other moves (but he was purely a 3 point shooter)

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Originally Posted by KaiRMD1

Danny has to develop more of a game than standing behind the 3 point line, simple as that. Even Neal has other moves (but he was purely a 3 point shooter)

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Yup. He needs to develop a dribble shoot game..He's good enough of a shooter to do it, he's just a pretty poor dribbler.

He doesnt need to be a good dribble, but just sufficient enough to give him a good feel. He also needs to get a feel of help defenders and defenders running of to the three point line. Make better decisions instead of waiting then getting harassed or pulling up for a contested three. He can improve and add this his game this summer.

posted in the wrong thread.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Again, shooting off the dribble after one or two dribbles already makes Green a lot more than just a spot-up shooter, which if you remember is the entire point over which we disagreed initially. No one thinks he's a good driver, or step-back shooter. He has to develop a better mid-range game for sure. But there's a market difference between a pure spot-up shooter like Mike Miller and a shooter like Green.

Also, Ginobili was actually good from mid-range, especially off a step-back. Don't let his bad shooting last year cloud that fact.

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Drawing a few lines with your weak head doesn't mean being ambidextrous imho. A shooter's game involves off-ball movement and the "one or two dribbles" are just part of it. Shooting off the dribble, by strict definition, is something like what you often see Dirk and Nash do, driving with the ball and attempting a sudden jumper before defenders can react. Green might have better mobility than most "spot-up" shooters but I'd never equate a horse-dragged cannon to a self-propelled artillery tbh.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

I'm talking about a pump fake and two dribble midrange pull up....that's not in his game..

Not many players on the Spurs can shoot off the dribble....I'd say Neal, Parker, Mills, and Kawhi.

Midrange game is a lost art...and Green doesn't have it. If he did he could easily average 14pts

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You can't tell me that someone one can hit the 3 consistently with that %, can't learn to hit the mid range shot at least somewhat respectably.

I think once DG learns that fake, two dribble, pull up shot, he'll open himself up at the 3 point line and may shoot an even higher 3P% due to better looks.

Until he does, his wings will still use wax...

He just needs to recognize what he's best at. Against Miami in Game 6 and 7, he was being invited to drive. He should have recognized this invitation and used his teammates better so that he could get back to behind the 3 point line.

He needs to go Dale Ellis, not Paul Pierce.

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Originally Posted by Rogue

Drawing a few lines with your weak head doesn't mean being ambidextrous imho. A shooter's game involves off-ball movement and the "one or two dribbles" are just part of it. Shooting off the dribble, by strict definition, is something like what you often see Dirk and Nash do, driving with the ball and attempting a sudden jumper before defenders can react. Green might have better mobility than most "spot-up" shooters but I'd never equate a horse-dragged cannon to a self-propelled artillery tbh.

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Shooting off the dribble literally means shooting the ball immediately after having dribbled it. Whether it's a rise-up shot over defenders or just an iso shot after a drive, it doesn't matter. As I said before, the reason why people talk about it being important is because it's a harder skill to learn to get a consistent form off the dribble than it is to learn to get a consistent form when one just catches and shoots. The ability to shoot off the dribble is something Green can do consistently. The ability to drive while protecting the ball is something Green can't do consistently. He already has the move that apalisoc_9 wants him to get (he hit 40 percent of those last season, which was above average for his position), but he needs to develop the ability to get his own shot against good defense.

Green's biggest problem isn't that he lacks any of this stuff in his game; it's that he's incredibly inconsistent (no one would be arguing that he didn't have a counter move if we were talking about this right after the WCSF). He was a lot streakier at shooting threes two seasons ago as well, and he got more consistent last year. I imagine the coaches will work with him to try to expand his go-to moves.

What was interesting is that Pop started calling for Green to play Parker's spot in "the loop" on some plays, which gave Danny wide-open threes that he knocked down. I think they'll start running more Allen-type screen plays for him next season.