Spurs should not have tried to rebound

Spurs did a HORRIBLE job guarding the 3 in those last 40 seconds. The rule of thumb is give up the 2, but not the 3 in those situations.

Terrible terrible terrible.

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Originally Posted by TXstbobcat

It was the toughest loss I have ever had to take as a spurs fan but it isn't life and death.

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^^^^^^^ This.

There should be different section for these Finals thread. It's both depressing :depressed and annoying :rolleyes. I know it sucks, it's the worst, but at least try to move on guys.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You're actually pretty right on that one. I've been thinking about the same thing lately. It's harder to get players to not go after boards that it is to get them to allow penetration, though. I think everyone would have played it differently.

This does undercut the constant complaining about Pop's decision, though. As you said, the Spurs should have just allowed the rebound. If that's the case, Duncan being out there would have been totally the wrong decision.

Teleologists will continue to complain, though.

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I'm familiar with teleology in philosophical contexts, but I'm a little confused by how you're using it here, and I'm genuinely curious about what exactly you mean.

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Originally Posted by dg7md

No offense, but it's just a game. We're all hardcore Spurs fans here but this isn't like someone died.

They'll be back. It was an insane fluke like backdoor sweep. Niners fans feel the same, but they got inventory to back up on, as do we. We're still up on the Heat in ring count and last I checked we have an all-time great playing for us. We're going to be fine.

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Nah shit, of course nobody died. This loss, however, as a sports fan is one you can't get over. People muddle sports and put them into life perspective to try and "get over" it but it's not going to happen. You'll always remember the hugely missed opportunity to close out Miami IN THEIR HOME COURT with TD having a hall of fame closeout game.

What I can take away from this past year is that the Spurs gave it their best shot and will in all likelihood be in the mix of things next season barring a huge injury.

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Originally Posted by tesseractive

I'm familiar with teleology in philosophical contexts, but I'm a little confused by how you're using it here, and I'm genuinely curious about what exactly you mean.

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In ethics, teleology essentially equates to, "The ends justify the means." It's the theory that the results of actions determine whether the action was right or wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequ...logical_ethics

Some people on this board are being teleological by claiming that Pop made the wrong decision simply because it didn't work.

I loathe Pops decision not to have Duncan in but looking back it now it's hindsight tbh.

I really do believe Miami was a team of destiny and Lebron is man of destiny. Down the stretch his play resembled the chokitude of the 2011 finals. Had Miami gone on to lose, Lebron would have been crucified by the media.

Honestly we can harp on what the Spurs should have done but Miami did what they had to do in incredibly difficult circumstances.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

You're sad, and I would hate to walk a foot, let alone a mile in your shoes.

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Dude I'm more accomplished right now than you'll ever be in life. FACT.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

In ethics, teleology essentially equates to, "The ends justify the means." It's the theory that the results of actions determine whether the action was right or wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequ...logical_ethics

Some people on this board are being teleological by claiming that Pop made the wrong decision simply because it didn't work.

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Yeah, I'm familiar with it in the context of consequentialism and such. (I managed to collect a philosophy degree in my misspent youth. ;) ) I'd just never heard it used specifically in reference to hindsight. I mean, in general, we would all say that the best coaching strategy to choose in advance is the one that you believe most likely to lead to success (barring things like trying to cripple an opponent). So in that sense, teleology isn't even controversial.

"X didn't work, therefore X was the wrong choice" seems like something different.

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

Spurs did a HORRIBLE job guarding the 3 in those last 40 seconds. The rule of thumb is give up the 2, but not the 3 in those situations.

Terrible terrible terrible.

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That's what forgets to get mentioned. There was a lot of stuff in the Spurs control that they didn't do. They should have inbounded to their best free throw shooter. They should have tried to take time of the clock. They should have made it difficult for the Heat to inbound the ball. They should have seized the championship instead they waited for the Heat to hand it to them. That's a losing strategy.