The Case for trading Danny Green.

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Originally Posted by TheGoldStandard

Kevin Love/Roy Hibbert?

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Love would certainly be a target. Not sure about Hibbert though since Splitter would still be around.

Brook Lopez and Lamarcus Aldridge will also be FA's that offseason....

Danny Green is a bargain at his current salary and next years salary. It would be a mistake for the spurs to trade him.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

First, I love Danny Green. I wish more players could embody the hard work that he's put in and could grow the way he has. I'm not making this trade because I dislike Green in the least.

That being said, I am starting to come around to the idea that trading DG would actually be in the Spurs best interest. Why?

Perception of value

His value has never been higher and its tough to see it ever being higher than it is now. Coming off a finals were he sets the 3 point record and plays some pretty good defense I cannot see DG ever surpassing the value he's at now. Even if he plays extremely well in the coming season its not the same as doing what he did on the biggest stage in the NBA.

Ceiling

Danny Green has likely hit his ceiling. He can't improve much on his shot at this point and you pretty much never see players become good finishers at this point in DG's career. He'll be a very good 3 point shooter who gives you solid defense but he's never going to be someone who creates or is the focal point of an offense.

Manu

Manu probably needs to start at this point in his career. I don't believe that he's capable of being a player who makes the 2nd unit better the way he used to in the past. In order for Manu to be fully effective I think he's going to have to take DG's spot in the starting lineup and feed off of being surrounded by players who are just as good. This is probably the biggest factor for me, honestly.

Too many guards not enough small forwards

The Spurs have a serious log jam at the 2 right now. Should they sign Neal as we've heard reports of today then that only gets larger. Something has got to give and while trading DeColo and/or Mills would help with this neither is going to bring back much of anything outside of slight salary relief.

Danny Green has a small contract for his production and I think by pairing him in a trade with Bonner and/or Diaw the Spurs can actually probably entice a team out there to get an asset or two that actually help the team.

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Someone actually put their thoughts into a thread and have it make some sense.


I actually thought they would move him prior to the draft. Either netting them a higher pick ( in the 15-20 range) or pair him and the #29th pick to move to the late lottery.

As of now, I think Manu should start. The problem is he can't play big minutes. Do we play him the first 7 minutes of the 1st and 3rd. While playing 6 minutes in the 2nd and 4th quarters (27mpg)? As of right now, I don't think the market is as high for Green after the dust has settled. Your right its unusual for a player to continue to develop a part of his game (attacking off the dribble) at the point in his career. Its possible but he will be remain a role player because of this flaw, a very good one none the less.

The Neal rumor is completely baffling. We would have 5 PGs. 3 true SGs (with De Colo, Mills and Neal eating time there as well), 1 SF, and 6 4/5's.

It also is an means the Spurs either don't beleive Joseph is capable of handing the backup PG duty or is still developing (unusual because he's entering his 3 season and still can't get steady minutes, even though he was the 28th pick just 2 years ago). Mills return is another oddity. Why return knowing (at the time atleast) that Neal and Joseph were ahead of him with De Colo having a possibility of winning back time at PG.

Trading De Colo makes the most sense to me. Moving him for an protected 2nd rounder that gives us $1.5 million and an open spot. An S&T to the Bucks for Neal (a pick in return) or just opting not to match any offer. This would allow the Spurs to use $3.6 million of the remaining MLE to sign a player. We'd be in position to slightly overpay for a veteran that may not have view the Spurs as a serious option (Kenyon Martin) We also could still sign Oden to the minimum or more . Either resign McGrady to play SF or inform Diaw that he will be tasked with playing SF for stretches over the course of the season.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

Love would certainly be a target. Not sure about Hibbert though since Splitter would still be around.

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Getting too far ahead of ourselves but 2/$18m of Tiago shouldn't be difficult to dump if you have a shot at Hibbert. TD has been working on him for 2 years already :stirpot:

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Originally Posted by Vic Petro

Getting too far ahead of ourselves but 2/$18m of Tiago shouldn't be difficult to dump if you have a shot at Hibbert. TD has been working on him for 2 years already :stirpot:

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Since it looks like the Spurs are going with the over-the-cap route instead of the cap space route this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Splitter's contract start high in '13-'14 and decrease over the years which would make him even more tradeable in 2015.

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Originally Posted by Em-City

manu shouldn't be starting, he should be retiring.

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And you should be logging off your computer and closing your Spurstalk account, tbh.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

No chance of Charlotte agreeing to that.

Well, it is MJ. Miniscule chance at best.

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He'd take the call and spend the day pondering it. His track record is pretty damn bad.

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Originally Posted by Baam

Danny Green for MKG?

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Green's better than MKG by a significant margin right now. MKG needs to become a better shooter to close the gap.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

As chinook just mentioned, they can't. Even if they could, I doubt they would. They're setting themselves up to be able to offer up a max contract to some free agent in 2015. They don't want Green eating into potential capspace.

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I actually think they'll have room to offer a semi-max deal to a player while retaining most of their young players. I said this in the Pendergraph thread, for those who didn't see it:

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I don't think Leonard will get the max. I think he'll sign and extension in the Curry range ($50M/4-$60M/5) next off-season. Provided Green continues to improve, he'll probably get offered a contract, but the team may not fight for him too hard if the window is fully closed by then. If the Spurs try to build around Parker and Leonard, he may stay on a $6-7 Million per year deal. Joseph may get offered a smart extension next off-season as well if he looks like he can be a legitimate backup.

This is how I think the salaries on the team could look in 2015-2016:

Leonard $11M
Parker $10M
Splitter $9M
Green $6.5M
Joseph $3.5M

So those five deals put the Spurs in about the $40 Million range. Seeing as the cap will probably be about $64 Million by then, they should have enough money to go for some good free agents.

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They should be able to offer a max deal to any semi-young player while re-signing everyone to a comfortable deal. Even if everyone's salaries are a bit bigger, I doubt they let Green go to try for a max free agent if he improves a lot. He'd be a seasoned championship-caliber role-player by then. They'd let go of Joseph if anyone.

MKG is further behind than Derozan!! A lot of posters are fixated on the here and now; kawhi will need a difference maker beside him.

The Spurs will be able to trade for one when the time comes. For now, they need to focus on winning the title in their last two seasons with Duncan. There's no reason to sell that for Leonard's potential.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I actually think they'll have room to offer a semi-max deal to a player while retaining most of their young players. I said this in the Pendergraph thread, for those who didn't see it:



They should be able to offer a max deal to any semi-young player while re-signing everyone to a comfortable deal. Even if everyone's salaries are a bit bigger, I doubt they let Green go to try for a max free agent if he improves a lot. He'd be a seasoned championship-caliber role-player by then. They'd let go of Joseph if anyone.

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I remember that post. Pretty much agree with all of it, although I think Leonard's going to get a little more than $11/yr. Assuming the topic of this thread doesn't come to pass, the Spurs would certainly like to keep Green, but they want him being a FA in 2015 just because you never know what scenarios to use that capspace could open up.

I had Leonard getting $60 Million over five years, which is a bit more than Curry's getting per year. The first-year salary is just a little over $11 Million. If his starting salary is about $12.5 Million, then he'd get paid $69 Million. That's approaching the maximum I think he could get unless he makes an All-NBA team. I agree that the Spurs are okay with being able to decide on Green in 2015. But I think they probably would have given him a longer contract than two years if they had to re-sign him this off-season.

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Originally Posted by KL2

I think he may have even guarded Westbrook last year.

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Nah, Green is Westbrook's bitch.

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Originally Posted by Darius McCrary

Inexplicable how you can't be a fan of DG.

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How can anyone not like him?

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=...pg&w=384&h=216

He could have been finals MVP
He is young

So no...

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

Love would certainly be a target. Not sure about Hibbert though since Splitter would still be around.

Brook Lopez and Lamarcus Aldridge will also be FA's that offseason....

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Please no!

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Originally Posted by Robz4000

You're not going to get equal value for Green tbh, even with packaging him alongside Bonner. Also, Green hasn't hit his ceiling yet; he has a couple things he can add to his game to make him a legitimate Top 5 SG in the league (a counter for defense's running him off the 3-pt line, improvement on his team D, improvement on his passing) and I'm still not convinced he can't become a better finisher.

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This^. This post season showed alot of growth for DG. He hasn't hit his ceiling yet

Trade Danny... Play Nando..................

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Originally Posted by PlayNando

Trade Danny... Play Nando..................

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We are talking about the Spurs not the Toros

I don't mind trading Danny green... If the return is right, but I just don't see who would be available that would be a better fit

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Originally Posted by GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI

We are talking about the Spurs not the Toros

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So am I, buddy boy..........

Gringo favoritism is sickening. Nando >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danny. PERIOD.

Play Nando....................

green contract is low so you would have to package a player like booner with him
trying green for ak47 would be worth it

This will be my 3rd post ever on here..... You are one stupid bastard. Go dig a hole and bury yourself in it and make sure theirs no are pockets in it. DG is not and shouldn't go anywhere. Why would you trade an up and coming player who is starting to develop in the Spurs system?

Green's contract is too small to get similar value in return. He's going to be a Spur for a very long time, I would think

I loled.

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Originally Posted by spurQ

This will be my 3rd post ever on here..... You are one stupid bastard. Go dig a hole and bury yourself in it and make sure theirs no are pockets in it. DG is not and shouldn't go anywhere. Why would you trade an up and coming player who is starting to develop in the Spurs system?

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