Yahoo: Spurs' talks for Andrei Kirilenko end without deal

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Originally Posted by Chinook

That would suck, as even Royce White's deal got moved.

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Hinkie was Morey's number two and he wants to tank the season anyway.

I'd love to know what the package was. Bonner/de Colo/What else?

If Belinelli is signed with the room exception and Pendergraph to a min contract (and in that case, McDonald would look so bad) , Spurs plan B could just be to sign Kirilenko with cap space. Their plan A might have been a S&T because it was cheaper than amnestying Bonner whose contract might now be fully guaranteed.

do something. send Saunders a stripper. ugh. this deal has teased spurstalk for too long. i want a russian on the team! more international flavuh

At least the are searching for quality players.

Question: Can another team with cap room sign AK then trade him to us?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Never been that high on AK personally, tbh...

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I think AK as a franchise guy/2nd or 3rd best on a team is iffy too.. even though he was fun to watch. AK in our system with his skill set is very intriguing though.

The Spurs could always try to acquire Pendergraph or Belinelli in a sign-and-trade as well. Maybe the Pacers would take Neal for Jeff, which would save the team a some cap space if they did that sign-and-trade after acquire Kirilenko in whichever way they felt was best.

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Originally Posted by outmap

Question: Can another team with cap room sign AK then trade him to us?

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No.

something something tbh imo

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Originally Posted by Chinook

The Spurs could always try to acquire Pendergraph or Belinelli in a sign-and-trade as well. Maybe the Pacers would take Neal for Jeff, which would save the team a some cap space if they did that sign-and-trade after acquire Kirilenko in whichever way they felt was best.

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any chance thibodeau wants bonner for belinelli? :lmao

if that happens and we sign kirilenko i will poop myself

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Originally Posted by Chinook

No.

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Ok then, bummer!

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Originally Posted by Baam

Yeah and that's not even talking about Manu and Tiago's deals...

But :pop: probably took Bonner off the table... Can't live without his lover...

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Originally Posted by Bruno

If Belinelli is signed with the room exception and Pendergraph to a min contract (and in that case, McDonald would look so bad) , Spurs plan B could just be to sign Kirilenko with cap space. Their plan A might have been a S&T because it was cheaper than amnestying Bonner whose contract might now be fully guaranteed.

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I'd say this has a 1% chance of being reality. McDonald wouldn't make up a number for Pendergraph out the blue .................... would he?

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

any chance thibodeau wants bonner for belinelli? :lmao

if that happens and we sign kirilenko i will poop myself

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He did try to trade for Bargnani, so it's not out of the question. Both teams could really use shooters, and the Spurs happen to have two of them on their deep bench.

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Originally Posted by timvp

I'd say this has a 1% chance of being reality. McDonald wouldn't make up a number for Pendergraph out the blue .................... would he?

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Probably not, if he used the words "about" or "around" but it was pretty clear

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Originally Posted by TheGoldStandard

Probably not, if he used the words "about" or "around" but it was pretty clear

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IIRC, McDonald said something like "it's believed to be $4 million".

Maybe he saw that he was coming off of a 2-year, $3 million deal and estimated a slight raise.

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this has gone too far not to happen. do it mitch, er, RC!

Well, I guess we'll know when we wake up in the morning.

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Originally Posted by timvp

I'd say this has a 1% chance of being reality. McDonald wouldn't make up a number for Pendergraph out the blue .................... would he?

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Yeah, 1% sounds right. McDonald is bad but I would be surprised of him being that bad.

Now, it would be very weird if Spurs can't get Kirilenko because of Pendergraph especially while he wouldn't play a lot with Duncan, Splitter, Diaw and Kirilenko eating most of the PF/C minutes.

I wonder if making sign and trades with ex-teams of Belinelli and Pendergraf would open space or the MLE for signing AK.
The most logical tardes could be Blair to indiana for Pendergraf (Indiana just needs other cheap reserve big men since also hansbrough has gone away, to raptors) and Neal to Chicago for Belinelli...

Another disappointment just like Game 6.

But this has gone too far for it to just fall through like this. Hopefully we don't give up so easily and make it happen one way or another.

Well we could've just take the easier way and sign him as an FA.But that ship has sailed when we overpaid Manu.

I don't get people blaming Flip. An AK S&T needs to be empty or they give up martin/Pek as they need the cap hold to keep Pek restricted and the Space to get martin. Bonner has no value.

The Spurs need to find some random team(s) to create a 3 way deal with Bonner/Neal/Blair out(requires the team wants to sign them and Neal/Blair want to go their), nothing to Minnesota(Cash and Lorbek, as well as a big TPE) with the team taking on Bonner getting a pick/Cash. I understand Minnesota not wanting to do it, it doesn't make sense for them.

But if you're giving up a first, even a heavily protected 1st that reverts to 2nds, you're probably better off just using the amnesty.