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Any decent SF's available with a sign and trade?
With AK out of the picture and 7 guards on the roster with Neal looking to cash in. Is there a decent small forward that could be got with a sign and trade?
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What's the rush? The trade deadline is months away.
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Doesn't even have to be decent tbh.
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Gerald Green? The Spurs could probably get him for free/Bonner or even get an asset if they move some guards for him, and his deal expires after next season along with everyone else besides Splitter.
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TMac deserves another shot, would give us another reliable ball handler/creator.
Probably not as much of a tosb as Manu at this point and much cheaper.
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SeT I do not know, but we could get maybe joe ingles?
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Besides TMac sells jerseys like Manu.
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As I said the other day, I'd imagine Singleton is available, given that they're clearly committed to Porter/Webster at SF going forward.
He's been underwhelming so far, but he's the type that's going to look that way on a terrible team. He fits the physical profile of an ideal James/Durant defender to a tee though and had a reputation as a lock down defender in college. He also shot reasonable enough from three as a rookie (low volume, granted) to think that, with the help of Engelland, he could turn into at least a respectable three point shooter.
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with a S&T there probably are. But SF free agents are pathetic.
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Man, again with the Singleton.
I personally would want someone with a higher PER than Jack's.
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ChumpDumper
Man, again with the Singleton.
I personally would want someone with a higher PER than Jack's.
No, you just want someone straight out of the D-League.
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TD 21
As I said the other day, I'd imagine Singleton is available, given that they're clearly committed to Porter/Webster at SF going forward.
He's been underwhelming so far, but he's the type that's going to look that way on a terrible team. He fits the physical profile of an ideal James/Durant defender to a tee though and had a reputation as a lock down defender in college. He also shot reasonable enough from three as a rookie (low volume, granted) to think that, with the help of Engelland, he could turn into at least a respectable three point shooter.
I talked about him in the think tank, I like the idea as well if they can get it done.
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I wonder whatever happened to this Taiwanese-born player who once was a Lottery pick and Big-East 1st Teamer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Alexander_(basketball)
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...binson-jpg.jpg
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Unless they resign Neal for the 15th slot, I think they keep it open until after the summer leagues to see if anyone shines. If not, then someone like Wes Johnson makes sense.
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Gelabale would be fine to eat minutes behind Leonard.
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TD 21
No, you just want someone straight out of the D-League.
Not at all. Can't really think of anyone I'd sign directly from there to back up Leonard.
I'm just wondering how many seasons Singleton will get a pass before you admit he's a bust.
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benefactor
Gelabale would be fine to eat minutes behind Leonard.
Exactly.
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Man In Black
Oh lord, I just read about him. Literally, the next 12 picks after the Bucks were made on players who are still going strong in the league today. That's just a horrible, horrible team.
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All the names that have been mentioned are scrubs, tbh..
If those are the options, the Spurs are better off with Diaw/Green playing backup SF, tbh..
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Time to bring Sean out of retirement! Lol
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Chinook
I lord, I just read about him. Literally, the next 12 picks after the Bucks were made on players who are still going strong in the league today. That's just a horrible, horrible team.
The Spurs have resurrected a couple of Bucks in the past in Alvin Robertson and Glenn Robinson. While Richard Jefferson was a failure, perhaps at a league Min, this once great athlete can be re-built? Chip and Chad have the technology, they can make him...better...faster...stronger (Insert Bionic Noise Here).
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HarlemHeat37
All the names that have been mentioned are scrubs, tbh..
If those are the options, the Spurs are better off with Diaw/Green playing backup SF, tbh..
If Teddy Pendergrass and Baynes are to play this season, why wouldn't Diaw play SF?
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Could we bid more than the minimum to claim MWP off amnesty? If we kept his minutes low, he might still be useful.
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ChumpDumper
If Teddy Pendergrass and Baynes are to play this season, why wouldn't Diaw play SF?
Do you think they're transitioning Diaw to the SF position after we saw flashes in the Finals, tbh?..
Could be an option if he loses a few pounds, as another poster mentioned in the other thread..
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Fully acknowledging that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel here, anyone got thoughts on Jeff Taylor of Charlotte? 6'7" SF, can shoot the 3 a little bit. 2 years left on a league min contract, second year unguaranteed.
Charlotte might be interested in one of our PGs. Ramon Sessions is currently their backup to Kemba, and it doesn't look like they've got a 3rd PG on the roster yet. They were near the bottom of the league in both assists and 3pt percentage last year. Might be interested in either Mills or De Colo.
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HarlemHeat37
Do you think they're transitioning Diaw to the SF position after we saw flashes in the Finals, tbh?..
Could be an option if he loses a few pounds, as another poster mentioned in the other thread..
I thought that was me.
Just makes sense to me. Moving one name on the depth chart makes everything look pretty decent. Counting on Boris to lose the weight is probably folly tho.
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raybies
Theres always hedo lol
Why not dust off Raja Bell.
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ChumpDumper
I thought that was me.
Just makes sense to me. Moving one name on the depth chart makes everything look pretty decent. Counting on Boris to lose the weight is probably folly tho.
My bad:lol..
I agree, Diaw getting in decent shape would fill the only major hole on the team(excluding backup PG, but they seem confident in Joseph's progression + Neal possibly returning)..they did pursue Kirilenko, according to the reports, so maybe Diaw at the backup 3 it isn't their ideal plan, though, I guess we'll see..
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ChumpDumper
I thought that was me.
Just makes sense to me. Moving one name on the depth chart makes everything look pretty decent. Counting on Boris to lose the weight is probably folly tho.
Except that we're still carrying 7 guards.
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A guy who could be a blast from the past, plays sold D and can play both forward positions that I think is still available is Anthony Tolliver. I mean it may be him or Luke Walton. If you want a project then Austin Daye would fit the mold.
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tesseractive
Except that we're still carrying 7 guards.
So what? Is there a third string SF who would get minutes ahead of one of the bigger guards at that position?
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ChumpDumper
So what?
The depth chart just seems a little goofy when half our roster is guards.
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tesseractive
The depth chart just seems a little goofy when half our roster is guards.
A couple of them can play minutes at SF, so it's not so cut and dry.
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austin daye would be good
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We'll run Diaw out there or play small... They're probably hoping that Someone from the SL shows up.
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diaw as a primary backup at 3 is kinda perfect too. the spurs should pick up a project. if not a guy with championship experience like mwp
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ChumpDumper
I thought that was me.
Just makes sense to me. Moving one name on the depth chart makes everything look pretty decent. Counting on Boris to lose the weight is probably folly tho.
That's the problem...Boris is extremely versatile and could play a number of positions but he's always out of shape but it also seems that his weight helps him defend better so it's kind of a wash. But Boris at SF has been effective for us and him being able to play there more often would make us better because he's kind of useless playing next to Splitter/Bonner/Blair
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The Heat ran with two centers last season, and one of them was Joel Anthony. You don't have to be two-deep at every spot to contend.
(I'm counting Andersen as the other center; I know Bosh lined up at center a lot but he isn't really one)
Hell, just look at the Spurs last year. Without Jax, Kawhi was the only true SF in the playoffs. Just sign someone for the min to soak up regular-season minutes.
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Gelabale, TMac or Hedo sounds about right.
I can't believe AK47 signed for 3 million.
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At this point it is time to roll with the guys that are here. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Deshaun Thomas play in the Summer League tomorrow.
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Seventyniner
The Heat ran with two centers last season, and one of them was Joel Anthony. You don't have to be two-deep at every spot to contend.
(I'm counting Andersen as the other center; I know Bosh lined up at center a lot but he isn't really one)
Hell, just look at the Spurs last year. Without Jax, Kawhi was the only true SF in the playoffs. Just sign someone for the min to soak up regular-season minutes.
this.
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And if Kawhi gets hurt, then who plays SF?
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xmas1997
And if Kawhi gets hurt, then who plays SF?
They'll do SF by Committee
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turkoglu would be a good one.
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DrunkTXLabrat
turkoglu would be a good one.
He spreads the floor..
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TheGoldStandard
They'll do SF by Committee
Not a very good idea IMHO.
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xmas1997
Not a very good idea IMHO.
Didn't say it was.. PG by Committee so probably SF by committee..
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Dorrell Wright...no S&T necessary
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turkoglu?? again? are you fucking kidding me?? HES DONE
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AFBlue
Dorrell Wright...no S&T necessary
He signed with Portland
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jermaine
I say Tmac
^^^^ Probably the only option we have to be honest.
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Imo we need to leave this spot open, let someone fight for a spot on summer league and training camp, see what's available via amnesty or waived or trade deadline. Our roster does seem imbalanced but we did get deeper. We are prepared for small ball. We have options Marco and Gary, if we sign him. There's still a possibility of a move with Gary, be it small.
Wesley Johnson is looking more interesting. He showed potential at the end of the season but now there's outside shots for Thomas, Thompson, and Brown.
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anyway we can get Ennis away from the Heat?
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I'm for bringing back TMac. He'll have a summer to get in shape, training camp and the experience to being with the team through the Finals. He can teach Leonard a few offensive moves. Spurs need to get their act together. Only 1 true PG and 1 true SF and a zillion SGs. God forbid something happens to TP or KL. These roles by committee aren't going to cut it. OTOH, good thing it's SG that they have depth in as, you know, Manu's gonna spend 1/3 of the season injured and another 1/3 getting back into rhythm (and maybe not getting into rhythm - but it's a good excuse). $7m - what a waste.
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As SF, only Wesley Johnson is left that could command more than a min contract and I'm not sure what kind of S&T you could do to get him.
Now, the true opportunity isn't a sign and trade, it's a trade and that will happened at the February trade deadline. Spurs have a lot of expiring contracts and will be fine with taking some salaries for 2014-2015.
As it stands the only team I can think that is looking at dumping salaries that way would be Toronto. An offer for a package of Amir Johnson and Landry Fields would be appealing to them.
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Three of the four best players in next year's draft are small forwards. So if a tanking team has any good sf, might as well get rid of them now.
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spurs don't even need a really good SF. Just a guy that can play for 10 minutes, but we won't get even that. Fucking guard experiment!
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Bruno
As SF, only Wesley Johnson is left that could command more than a min contract and I'm not sure what kind of S&T you could do to get him.
Now, the true opportunity isn't a sign and trade, it's a trade and that will happened at the February trade deadline. Spurs have a lot of expiring contracts and will be fine with taking some salaries for 2014-2015.
As it stands the only team I can think that is looking at dumping salaries that way would be Toronto. An offer for a package of Amir Johnson and Landry Fields would be appealing to them.
Why wait until the deadline for a deal like that? Does Toronto really think they're going to contend for a playoff spot? :lol
If the Spurs are willing to take on a little extra salary (and they should be given that they'll be far below the tax), then the Spurs can save Toronto some money because they're over the tax.
My God, that Fields contract is terrible.
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Bruno
As SF, only Wesley Johnson is left that could command more than a min contract and I'm not sure what kind of S&T you could do to get him.
Now, the true opportunity isn't a sign and trade, it's a trade and that will happened at the February trade deadline. Spurs have a lot of expiring contracts and will be fine with taking some salaries for 2014-2015.
As it stands the only team I can think that is looking at dumping salaries that way would be Toronto. An offer for a package of Amir Johnson and Landry Fields would be appealing to them.
Hey we can trade for Rudy Gay.
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cd98
Hey we can trade for Rudy Gay.
They loved Bonner in Toronto!!!!
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eDizzle20
At this point it is time to roll with the guys that are here. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Deshaun Thomas play in the Summer League tomorrow.
That's my thinking. I think Thomas and Richards are the guys the Spurs are most intrigue in signing to the roster, being they don't have a contract currently, and two, they Both have the body frame and athleticism to play the PF/SF combo role.
Both Richards and Thomas shot 37% 3 point range last year, so both can hit the long ball as well.
I am looking forward to the game tonight. Definitely will be watching it.
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Man In Black
The Spurs have resurrected a couple of Bucks in the past in Alvin Robertson and Glenn Robinson. While Richard Jefferson was a failure, perhaps at a league Min, this once great athlete can be re-built? Chip and Chad have the technology, they can make him...better...faster...stronger (Insert Bionic Noise Here).
Game 1 of '05 Finals notwithstanding, Big Dog was pretty terrible in his Spurs season.
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TD 21
No, you just want someone straight out of the D-League.
Danny Green says hello.
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Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
That's my thinking. I think Thomas and Richards are the guys the Spurs are most intrigue in signing to the roster, being they don't have a contract currently, and two, they Both have the body frame and athleticism to play the PF/SF combo role.
Both Richards and Thomas shot 37% 3 point range last year, so both can hit the long ball as well.
[/B]I am looking forward to the game tonight. Definitely will be watching it.
What channel can we watch the Spurs SL game?
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Man In Black
The Spurs have resurrected a couple of Bucks in the past in Alvin Robertson and Glenn Robinson. While Richard Jefferson was a failure, perhaps at a league Min, this once great athlete can be re-built? Chip and Chad have the technology, they can make him...better...faster...stronger (Insert Bionic Noise Here).
Alvin played for us before going to the Bucks, for what it's worth.
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spursfan4ever
What channel can we watch the Spurs SL game?
You can buy the Summer League package from NBA.com OR...
Its a violation to post links to free tv websites. But just Google European sport free tv or something like that. There are European sites that will give you access to almost every professional league basketball game in the world, actually to any sport in the world. Qualities not that the best, but hey, its free and I basically just use them to watch the Spurs and Cowboys games anyways.
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We've 8 months to think about under trade deadline. No need to rush.
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xmas1997
Not a very good idea IMHO.
We're talking about covering maybe 10 mpg behind Kawhi.
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Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
You can buy the Summer League package from NBA.com OR...
Its a violation to post links to free tv websites. But just Google European sport free tv or something like that. There are European sites that will give you access to almost every professional league basketball game in the world, actually to any sport in the world. Qualities not that the best, but hey, its free and I basically just use them to watch the Spurs and Cowboys games anyways.
Thanks for the info!
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Caron Butler after buyout maybe decent backup option
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montgod
Caron Butler after buyout maybe decent backup option
Spurs had interest in him years ago when he opted for Dallas. Every time I see Wesley Johnson, he looks good, but apparently most of the time he plays, he isn't.
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cd98
Every time I see Wesley Johnson, he looks good, but apparently most of the time he plays, he isn't.
Last year he shot just under 41% from the field. 32% from 3. Playing around 20MPG he averaged 2.5RPG and didn't do much to move the meter in steals, assists or blocks.
For a minimum deal he might be worth a gamble. But as we already have a stud in Kawhi I'm not sure why we'd be overly concerned with taking much of any risk behind him. Just get a guy that is going to be a solid role player and be content.
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HarlemHeat37
Do you think they're transitioning Diaw to the SF position after we saw flashes in the Finals, tbh?..
Could be an option if he loses a few pounds, as another poster mentioned in the other thread..
He can guard SFs as is. His weight clearly isn't an issue anymore.
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Tuddy
Deshaun Thomas
Thomas isn't a small forward though. Sure, to have a future in the NBA hes going to have to figure it out, but hes definitely not there yet. That's why hes going to Europe next season.
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Bruno
As SF, only Wesley Johnson is left that could command more than a min contract and I'm not sure what kind of S&T you could do to get him.
Now, the true opportunity isn't a sign and trade, it's a trade and that will happened at the February trade deadline. Spurs have a lot of expiring contracts and will be fine with taking some salaries for 2014-2015.
As it stands the only team I can think that is looking at dumping salaries that way would be Toronto. An offer for a package of Amir Johnson and Landry Fields would be appealing to them.
Fields would be a good backup, he just can't really shoot.
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cd021
Fields would be a good backup, he just can't really shoot.
He also makes over $6M per year.
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toronoto does seem like the destination. i can't think of anybody else who'd have interest in bonner. maybe atl, utah, orl, or okc? because of the spurs connection. acy, fields, turkoglu, oquin, davis, harrington, pj3?
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Not at all. Can't really think of anyone I'd sign directly from there to back up Leonard.
I'm just wondering how many seasons Singleton will get a pass before you admit he's a bust.
We're talking about a 13th or 14th man, which you seemed to comprehend when you said "doesn't even have to be decent tbh" . . . yet here you are, dismissing Singleton.
:lol I'm pretty sure two days ago was the first time I've mentioned him on here.
:lol Yeah, nothing says definitive bust like 123 games, spread over 2 seasons, for one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the league.
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montgod
Caron Butler after buyout maybe decent backup option
Except he is with the Suns, and he has a very valuable expiring contract of 8mil. Such a trade asset will not see a buy out.
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If Spurs should target a Suns player, they should go after the nameless one. Trading Bonner for him would be wicked history twist...
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Bruno
If Spurs should target a Suns player, they should go after the nameless one. Trading Bonner for him would be wicked history twist...
You know the Suns don't have many SGs on the roster S&T for him, could include Bonner as well depending on the contract Neal wants.
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You know the Suns don't have many SGs on the roster S&T for him, could include Bonner as well depending on the contract Neal wants.
Or you could give them De Colo, Spurs got his pick in the infamous trade.
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Nameless one?????????????????????
Who is that?
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xmas1997
Nameless one?????????????????????
Who is that?
Scola thread!
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He only has 2 years left on his contract so would line up with the 2014-15 season Spurs seem to want cap space for.
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He only has 2 years left on his contract so would line up with the 2014-15 season Spurs seem to want cap space for.
And Phoenix would likely be happy to get the 2014-15 number off the books.
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Might as well do it now since today is the 6 year anniversary of the trade.
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yeah, I didn't bring the nameless one just to tease posters but because aa trade would make sense for both. Spurs got a solid player for the end of the Duncan/Ginobili era. The rebuilding Suns get cap relief for an aging player.
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DPG21920
No thanks^
Why not?
Bonner plus excess guard(s) in exchange for Scola plus Wes Johnson (S&T).
Makes sense to me.