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If you remember the final moments of Game 6 in OT Manu got absolutely mobbed with no foul coul and Chris Bosh body-checked Danny Green at the 3 point line as the final seconds left the clock. Huge huge no-calls that could have been all the difference in OT.Quote:
Originally Posted by KL2
c+. was a bit disappointed in our underwhelming summer but we had some good signing so not all is totally bad. I mean it's not like the 92 summer when we didn't get chuck and chuck ended our season with a jumpshot in front of Robinsons face
B+
how different would your sentiments be if 6 didn't happen? that said, Pendergraph isn't miserably undersized like Blair, Baynes should be able to work himself into rotation minutes. this squad had the chip were it not for 2 missed FT's and 2 offensive rebounds given up. i'm perfectly fine with letting the gang have another shot at it. if Flip wasn't a moron and S&T'ed AK47, i would have given the offseason an A+ though. some of you armchair GM's didn't want to bring back splitter and wanted to give big money to monta ellis instead.
push comes to shove and we still have a handful of decently sized expiring contracts, as well as an oversaturated roster (we've got about 14 guys that are good enough for rotation spots NOT including Neal), meaning we could easily combine 2-3 of them for a solid player near the deadline without compromising depth
Diaw - 4.7 (don't see him being traded barring a really good player being somehow available)
Bonner - 3.95
De Colo - 1.5
Mills - 1.1
Cojo - 1.1 million (with team option next year for 2 million. i think he's a keeper too)
so if Neal is brought back, we could conceivably deal bonner, de colo, mills for a team looking to salary dump a player worth around 6-7 million
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B-
Sure. Manu is probably making too much, but getting Belinelli on the cheap makes that a wash. I am not convinced that the Spurs could have p/u a FA big as good as Splitter for less than they spent on their starting center. I also believe what they paid him was fair market value. Pendergraph is a great p/u if you take him for what he is . . . Blair's replacement. Not getting AK47 was disappointing, but it wasn't for a lack of effort on the FO's part.
Anyone who's been a Spurs fan for any ammount of time should know that this is a pretty typical, if not slightly better than average, Spurs offseason. There are no guarantees that if they had replaced Manu and Splitter, that those players would have worked out or fit the system and sometimes the best move is to stick with what is working and try to improve with the core that is the the first Spurs squad to reach the finals in six years.
Ask Mavfan if they think it was a good idea to let Tyson Chandler go, or OKC if swapping Harden for Martin was a good idea . . .
Oh . . . and before I forget, . . . Spurs fans suck.
I give them an Incomplete.
Its really tough to gauge this offseason but I lean toward it being a below average one for the Spurs. Our draft really smells a lot like the year we got Ian Mahimni. We got a young guy who's largely an enigma. Time will tell but I'm not optimistic, honestly. But, to be fair there was really no one who stood out as a game changer at that point and late first rounders are anything but guaranteed pics.
Free agency seems mediocre but the only guy I thought would really help the Spurs was AK. And after he signed for 3 fucking million I'm not sure what to think about that whole situation. Keeping Tiago is likely a good move. As much as he pisses me off at times he does help Duncan quite a bit and he's largely a reason for the Spurs success against team's like Memphis. The Manu signing seems expensive and I'm not optimistic he'll produce at a high level but I wasn't optimistic about Duncan playing at the level he did last year either.
Its just too hard to guage this offseason because its so weird. Only time will tell.
B-/C+ so far. Some minor upgrades maybe.
F did not improve the roster where it needed to be improved. Over paid both Manu and Splitter. I didn't care if either of those two even came back.
No upgrade on the frontline no backup pg. Nothing that will help next year from the draft.
D so far.
C
They basically didn't do anything besides keep Splitter (at basically max price) and overpay for a guy who wasn't going anywhere. They made a lateral move with Belinelli and imo drafted forgettably. We won't know how the picks will turn out, but right now it's a very average postseason. Can't give it any more than a C tbh. The last 4 offseasons were better for SA.
Bingo F- But some Pop/RC Homers in here think otherwise and think they can do no wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by rascal
B+
A+ just for keeping Bonner
The Spurs improved during the off-season but not as much as they could have. I personally would have liked to see Tiago take a walk but it is what it is. I would rate it at a B-. If the current pieces were good enough to beat Miami, any additional improvements should ensure success against them. The Spurs can play with Miami , that is not the problem. The only concern for our team and it has been the same one for a long time, is just staying healthy. If we do that this year, you cannot rule out another run back to the Finals. Duncan doesn't have to carry us every game, nor does TP, because we now have role players that have gained valuable experience in the postseason and are ready to contribute more this season. We added some good pieces with potential to contribute and whose to say the Spurs are done trying to improve the team? We are the defending Western Conference champions this year and really there are not that many teams out there in the West that can beat the Spurs in a best of 7 series. There are a few but not many.
C- We still have no backup PG and no backup SF
My score is based on potential C+
They had allot of money to work with this off-season and they missed so many opportunities. Thankfully Spurs are still a great team but this off-season was a wash.
C-.. Keep reading this BS on ESPN about: SPURS Re Sign Splitter after Career Year?..What the fuck is that about?..He still has a shitload of stuff to work on before saying that..The only thing he had go up was Free Throw%..Other than that, had it not been for TP and Ginobili's good penetration and Great passing to him wide open under the basket..He wouldn't be shit..I think it was a horrible move giving him 9 mil a year..Ginobili's 7 mil a year doesn't bother me too much, yet he could've taken a tad bit less..But that said, he has already proven himself despite the inconsistent Finals debut..Belinelli was a great addition..And he did it while taking a significant cut in pay..Pendergraph, we will have to see how he pans out?...Although wish we could've locked up AK47 before giving Pen his Contract..Still a few available Free Agents out there..Would take Artest on the cheap, just for Defensive purposes..Whip him into Great shape and could be a steal?..He can still shoot a bit, plus for what we would need outta him don't really have to rely on that shot..Kinda like the Bruce Bowen affect, just hit them while your open play good D and Win games..Now one other thing I am waiting to see is what happens with the Wizards interest for Blair?..I would love a Bonner, Blair for Ariza trade..Ariza hasn't been the Ariza the Lakers had back then..But I believe giving the right circumstance he could evolve back o that player we seen in 2010..Keep Neal, add a backup PG and we will be good going into next year!!!...
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Unimpressive. Missed opportunities. Overpaying Manu obviously. Splitter too. Bonner still here with opportunity to shed him lost. Haven't filled needs. Pendergraph? What is that some geologic device?
D-
Only thing that saved it from an F is Beli.
What moves would you have made?Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
Because each year and each team is different? Maybe? Attempting to compare various teams chances against one another across the years is a fools errand.Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
I doubt that Shane Battier goes 6-8 on threes in the final game of the NBA Finals again. Also doubt that Ray Allen and Mike Miller combine to shoot 58% from three again. Chalmers was the leading scorer in Game 2 and the Heat still won. Etc, etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
But by all means, lets keep talking about fluke performances. This finals had more of them than any in recent memory.
Agree about Splitter. Bellineli we shall see.Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
Battier was due to start knocking some shots down after missing so many. Alot of Miller's shots were wide open and Ray Allen is one of the best 3pt shooters ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agloco
Срање кроз густо грање, тбх . . .
58%....let that percolate.Quote:
Originally Posted by therealtruth
B
Spurs were able to retain Boris Diaw and Splitter, which was pretty huge for the team. Also, the signing of Jeff Pendergraph and Marco Belinelli covered two voids: a player who can actually play the PF position while Splitter plays on C, and a pretty good passer in Marco Belinelli that can hit 3's.
Most importantly, Spurs drafted a scorer in Deshaun Thomas in the second round, which was a steal. I know it'll be hard for Thomas to get a roster spot, but one of the glaring holes was the ablity for players to create their own shot. Through 3 sumemr league games, Thomas has shown a tendency to create his own shots, which is what the Spurs essentially needed.