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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
EVAY
So, according to the logic you are utilizing (and I use the term logic advisedly), DeColo and Cory Joseph, both of whom are playing on the Spurs Summer League team, should similarly not be allowed to do so. The fact that they are playing this summer at the request of the team paying their salaries does not change the potential impact of too much play on their bodies.
Same reason I didn't pinpoint De Colo as a problem as well as Bellineli. Relative youth. And I'd read into other ppl's comments a little more advisedly, if I were u
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
Kingsly Alexander
Same reason I didn't pinpoint De Colo as a problem as well as Bellineli. Relative youth. And I'd read into other ppl's comments a little more advisedly, if I were u
De Colo is only 4 or so years younger than Parker. Parker's age is not the issue...he is at prime age. His minutes during the game and the fact that he had to carry the team on his back almost all year are the issues. De Colo is not only playing for the Spurs this summer, he will presumably play for the French NT as well come the fall. The French NT play the same plays as the Spurs because Tony is their defacto coach.
So playing for them is like another development league for the Spurs, and Tony will try to bring De Colo along as his potential backup.
If Tony has a decent backup during the Spurs season, his play for his national team (just like the US players play for our NT) is not a factor.
Ginobili's play for his NT is not the issue either...the way that Ginobili has played for so many years, whether in Europe or the US, has much more to do with his body breaking down.
If we cannot get Tony some decent back-up, he will break down too, but it won't be because of playing for his NT. It will be because our team can't function without him so far.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
playblair
limit parkers minutes ala duncan................. let cojo develop .........................
Trade Cojo........... Play Nando............... tbh...........
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
Tony is almost 31. While he is still in his prime, he is going to decline soon, and without a consistent jump-shot, it may not be pretty. Will that be next season or in three seasons? I don't know, but it will happen. Let's hope that he can transform his game in the meantime because his current style of play isn't going to work when he's Manu's age, tbh.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
EVAY
De Colo is only 4 or so years younger than Parker. Parker's age is not the issue...he is at prime age. His minutes during the game and the fact that he had to carry the team on his back almost all year are the issues. De Colo is not only playing for the Spurs this summer, he will presumably play for the French NT as well come the fall. The French NT play the same plays as the Spurs because Tony is their defacto coach.
So playing for them is like another development league for the Spurs, and Tony will try to bring De Colo along as his potential backup.
If Tony has a decent backup during the Spurs season, his play for his national team (just like the US players play for our NT) is not a factor.
Ginobili's play for his NT is not the issue either...the way that Ginobili has played for so many years, whether in Europe or the US, has much more to do with his body breaking down.
If we cannot get Tony some decent back-up, he will break down too, but it won't be because of playing for his NT. It will be because our team can't function without him so far.
He's been playing pro ball and for his national team full time since he was 17 just the sheer amount of basketball he's the played his whole career is bound to wear him down then the usual 31 ur old. De Colo plays SG with the national team anyways, so it isn't as if he's Parker's direct back up.
Concerning De Colo, I don't mind how many minutes or rest he'll get during the summer because it wasn't as if he played 82 games last season playing 25 min a game. The more he plays, summer league or national team the better in my opinion, because with our guard depth, he could potentially be 3rd string at either the 1 or 2, and the experience carrying these teams will only serve his maturation.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
wildchild
And Diaw? I didn't read about him.
he's the captain
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
I'll never get how Amercans don't understand/tolerate that NT > NBA for most players as long as they feel they can help this team.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
PlayNando
Tony is almost 31. While he is still in his prime, he is going to decline soon, and without a consistent jump-shot, it may not be pretty.
LOL. His mid-range jumper is one of the best in basketball.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
I don't get why he does this because the French NT sucks ass and they won't win shit...at least we won't have to worry about him going deep into the competition.
inb4 french posters get mad at me
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
K-State Spur
LOL. His mid-range jumper is one of the best in basketball.
No. He only makes them at a decent click because he is usually wide open, tbh. And he's only wide open because the defenders have to play him so far off because of his blazing speed, which he will loose with time.
And he needs to develop a three-point shot.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
Hey came up with some fairly clutch 3's this season, I think he can totally do it
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
PlayNando
No. He only makes them at a decent click because he is usually wide open, tbh. And he's only wide open because the defenders have to play him so far off because of his blazing speed, which he will loose with time.
And he needs to develop a three-point shot.
He's already lost a step from the "blazing" rookie. He gets to the rim as much with craft (and deceptive strength for his size) as he does pure speed.
And there are quite a few NBA guards blessed with incredible speed - virtually none of them can match him on the midrange jumper.
He's 31, he's not "developing" a 3 point shot at this point. In fact, one of his biggest strengths is that he knows exactly who he is. He picks his spots - rather than jacking them up at 2-3 per game (compared to say DWade, who has shot 1.8 3s per game throughout his career at less than 29%).
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
cool, another story for spurstalkers to bitch about nothing
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
K-State Spur
He's already lost a step from the "blazing" rookie. He gets to the rim as much with craft (and deceptive strength for his size) as he does pure speed.
And there are quite a few NBA guards blessed with incredible speed - virtually none of them can match him on the midrange jumper.
He's 31, he's not "developing" a 3 point shot at this point. In fact, one of his biggest strengths is that he knows exactly who he is. He picks his spots - rather than jacking them up at 2-3 per game (compared to say DWade, who has shot 1.8 3s per game throughout his career at less than 29%).
Can't fight Father Time, tbh. The decline will begin.
Some pathetic SpursTalkers will be calling for Tony to retire soon, just like they have with Timmy and Manu.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
PlayNando
Can't fight Father Time, tbh. The decline will begin.
Some pathetic SpursTalkers will be calling for Tony to retire soon, just like they have with Timmy and Manu.
Of course it will, possibly next season.
But more likely at age 33 or 34. Point guards of Tony's size/build who held their skills into their 30s typically kept them until mid-30s.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
Stupid Frenchie's going to regret this decision when he misses the playoffs with an injury or runs out of gas due to fatigue. Fuck FIBA - Mark Cuban has been wrong about a lot of things but his stance on international basketball being a corrupt joke of a sport was correct.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
Lady M
he's the captain
Thanks Lady M. Then he'll play too.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
but...but...it's a great challenge lol
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
Johnny RIngo
Stupid Frenchie's going to regret this decision when he misses the playoffs with an injury or runs out of gas due to fatigue. Fuck FIBA - Mark Cuban has been wrong about a lot of things but his stance on international basketball being a corrupt joke of a sport was correct.
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Originally Posted by
Leetonidas
I don't get why he does this because the French NT sucks ass and they won't win shit...at least we won't have to worry about him going deep into the competition.
inb4 french posters get mad at me
I agree. The last time that Manu rested during the summer, he ended up playing a lot more games that his usual average of 20-30 games of DNP. A huge price that we all have to pay as Spurs fans is watching our international players not rest during the summer because of their NT's.
Belinelli is already contemplating playing for his NT as well. At least he will ask for the Spurs permission even though it's not necessary. Oh yeah and fuc* all these international Spurs fans bitc*ing at us for wanting our players to rest. They don't know what it's like to live in SA and be a diehard Spurs fan.
BTW, I hope that Boris Diaw plays 48 minutes per game for his NT. I rather see him on a basketball court than him tweeting pictures of himself eating.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
Boris is the only one who doesn't need to be resting this summer :lol
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
Johnny RIngo
Stupid Frenchie's going to regret this decision when he misses the playoffs with an injury or runs out of gas due to fatigue. Fuck FIBA - Mark Cuban has been wrong about a lot of things but his stance on international basketball being a corrupt joke of a sport was correct.
Quit with the HATING.
Parker wants to play for his COUNTRY. It's not my fault that you are an unpatriotic hater. Parker is a FRENCH NATIONALIST and wants to bring GLORY to FRANCE. If you got a problem with that, then you need to go back to the Middle Ages, where nationalism didn't really exist yet.
Personally, I am THRILLED for TONY that he is playing for his COUNTRY. NATION >>>> professional sports team. Parker is making a SACRIFICE to bring GLORY to his NATION. That anyone has a problem with that makes me sick.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
PlayNando
Quit with the HATING.
Parker wants to play for his COUNTRY. It's not my fault that you are an unpatriotic hater. Parker is a FRENCH NATIONALIST and wants to bring GLORY to FRANCE. If you got a problem with that, then you need to go back to the Middle Ages, where nationalism didn't really exist yet.
Personally, I am THRILLED for TONY that he is playing for his COUNTRY. NATION >>>> professional sports team. Parker is making a SACRIFICE to bring GLORY to his NATION. That anyone has a problem with that makes me sick.
Why are you being so defensive on this matter? Are you from France? If not, then you are either trolling or you just have very different opinions from an average person. Seriously, these international fans would be more happier if TP won a stupid gold medal for his national team than if our beloved Spurs won a championship. Most of us Spurs fans that live in SA prefer that our international players rest. I can't really bitc* (well I can but not like it will matter) if one of our players wants to represent his country for the Olympics but come on, TP wants to participate in some stupid tournament for France? What a joke.
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
TheGreatYacht
Why are you being so defensive on this matter? Are you from France? If not, then you are either trolling or you just have very different opinions from an average person. Seriously, these international fans would be more happier if TP won a stupid gold medal for his national team than if our beloved Spurs won a championship. Most of us Spurs fans that live in SA prefer that our international players rest. I can't really bitc* (well I can but not like it will matter) if one of our players wants to represent his country for the Olympics but come on, TP wants to participate in some stupid tournament for France? What a joke.
It's not a JOKE. TONY is a COMPETITOR. He wants to WIN for his NATION>
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
Leetonidas
I don't get why he does this because the French NT sucks ass and they won't win shit...at least we won't have to worry about him going deep into the competition.
inb4 french posters get mad at me
You are actually right, the French NT won't win shit this year.
French posters are mad at our big men who have declined their selections for various reasons
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Re: Parker to play for French NT in september
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Originally Posted by
romain.star
You are actually right, the French NT won't win shit this year.
French posters are mad at our big men who have declined their selections for various reasons
Well they should be mad,one big guy actually playing would make a big difference for France.They backstabbed their country.Tony just showed how much he loves his country,French people should be proud of him.