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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
I see a pattern of Chinook overrating Spurs players and underratng other players. Now Ariza isn't that good? Com'on dude. Ariza would be an amazing fit for the backup swingman position on this team.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Originally Posted by
MannyIsGod
I see a pattern of Chinook overrating Spurs players and underratng other players. Now Ariza isn't that good? Com'on dude. Ariza would be an amazing fit for the backup swingman position on this team.
Dunno why you're generalizing based off this thread of all things. I said he'd be a good addition and defended him for half the thread against people saying he wouldn't. I'm saying that the Wizards don't want him and he's attainable. He's not good enough to have a high stock.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
I read this
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He's not that good.
but if you said he'd be a good addition then nevermind :tu
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
I should have put "that" in all caps. He's a good fit for this team, but he does not have high stock. I mean, hell, he's been traded twice on this contract already.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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spursince#99
We're talking small ball 4 here. Not the natural 4.
imho a smallball 4 has to be able to defend every 4 aside from the gasols of the game. You can't be forced not to play him just because your opponent is playing amir johnson, can you?
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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TheyCallMePro
Ariza is a role player. Without Kobe he's worthless
That's a statement based on media hype, not reality. The media gives Bryant credit for everything. The truth is that Gasol is the player who made it possible for Ariza to succeed in LA, not Bryant. At that time, Gasol had to be doubled every time he touched the ball. Also, Ariza's perimeter defense masked other deficiencies...primarily the fact that Bryant stopped playing real defense in about 2008, and simply coasted and cruised the passing lanes for steals (i.e. more points). The Lakers were stupid to let Ariza go, and signed Ron Artest to that long contract in an attempt to replace him.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
Spurs better be trying to get Ariza. He would be a perfect backup behind Kawhi and I think he would work well in the Spurs system. Great 3 point shooter, good defender, and has been to the biggest stage. Get it done :hungry:
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Raven
imho a smallball 4 has to be able to defend every 4 aside from the gasols of the game. You can't be forced not to play him just because your opponent is playing amir johnson, can you?
who's to say he couldn't hold his own against a guy like Amir Johnson?
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Chinook
Also add to that that Afflalo's not very good.
You realize we're looking for bench players right? Afflalo is, in fact, a good player. He doesn't need to be an all-star. We're looking for a backup swingman not a world beater
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Leetonidas
You realize we're looking for bench players right? Afflalo is, in fact, a good player. He doesn't need to be an all-star. We're looking for a backup swingman not a world beater
No one should be looking for a bench player with that contract. He'd be the fourth-highest paid player on the team, and he has a worse PER than any rotation player.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Bruno
If Spurs do a Bonner+Blair for Ariza with Washington, a way to add another big would be to do another S&T with Neal to Milwaukee, that is rumored to be after him. Bucks have a lot of bigmen and Udoh or Ayon should be available.
IF Atlanta did match Milwaukee's offer for Jeff Teague then perhaps Milwaukee may think that Gary Neal could play some backup point and his shooting replaces what was lost with the departure of Monta Ellis and JJ Redick?
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
I love the Ariza idea. Would be perfect for the Spurs if they could sign a big as well. (Oden, KMart, ect.)
Lets be honest....its going to be blair for a second rounder. In that case we can just hope that it is the 31st pick in a pretty deep draft.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
What about Jason Collins? (don't reply that he is gay)
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Dr Cox
What about Jason Collins? (don't reply that he is gay)
He sucks...
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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spursince#99
who's to say he couldn't hold his own against a guy like Amir Johnson?
maybe a more blatant example, Paul Millsap.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Chinook
He sucks...
cheap :lol
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
There is all of this discussion and we are all assuming that it doesn't matter to the Wizards that Blair will NOT pass his physical due to no ACLs. We all assume that fact is common knowledge in the NBA. It wouldn't surprise me if they have second thoughts and nix the deal at the last moment using this excuse.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Dr Cox
What about Jason Collins? (don't reply that he is gay)
Dude has never been anything but roster filler, a Geiko guy in case the entire roster gets hurt. The only discernible skill being a big body who plays passable D. No thanks.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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MannyIsGod
I see a pattern of Chinook overrating Spurs players and underratng other players. Now Ariza isn't that good? Com'on dude. Ariza would be an amazing fit for the backup swingman position on this team.
CHINOOK has a tough time rating players period.....glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way lol
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Dr Cox
What about Jason Collins? (don't reply that he is gay)
he's happy
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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coachmac87
CHINOOK has a tough time rating players period.....glad I'm not the only one who sees it that way lol
Did you read the part where he realized he was wrong? Or is following me around gonna be your new thing?
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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xmas1997
There is all of this discussion and we are all assuming that it doesn't matter to the Wizards that Blair will NOT pass his physical due to no ACLs. We all assume that fact is common knowledge in the NBA. It wouldn't surprise me if they have second thoughts and nix the deal at the last moment using this excuse.
Everyone knows he has no ACLs. It's not a Spurs' secret. The Wiz would be making the deal knowing this.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Chinook
No one should be looking for a bench player with that contract. He'd be the fourth-highest paid player on the team, and he has a worse PER than any rotation player.
Playing on one of the worst teams ever probably skews his PER and I'm sure being in a situation like he was in LA will do wonders for him. Who cares what he makes, Spurs are in win now mode. And he'd probably be the 6th-7th best player on the team so it's not that big of a deal. Yeah he's overpaid but Spurs don't have a lot of better options. Plus he is expiring, so that point is moot. We all know if Green was a free agent after last season he would be getting paid big time, Kawhi as well. And the Spurs gave that piece of shit Richard Jefferson 10 million dollars a season, there's no way you can convince anyway he is better than Ariza, so imo his contract isn't the issue here.
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Chinook
He sucks...
Was that a joke? :lmao
But yeah agree on him, Collins is absolute garbage, not sure why he's still in the league
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Re: Wizards interested in Blair, looking at a S&T.
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Leetonidas
Playing on one of the worst teams ever probably skews his PER and I'm sure being in a situation like he was in LA will do wonders for him. Who cares what he makes, Spurs are in win now mode. And he'd probably be the 6th-7th best player on the team so it's not that big of a deal. Yeah he's overpaid but Spurs don't have a lot of better options. Plus he is expiring, so that point is moot. We all know if Green was a free agent after last season he would be getting paid big time, Kawhi as well. And the Spurs gave that piece of shit Richard Jefferson 10 million dollars a season, there's no way you can convince anyway he is better than Ariza, so imo his contract isn't the issue here.
Also a great role player down in New Orleans. Lets not forget that stint.