He is precious to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
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He is precious to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
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Originally Posted by Kingsly Alexander
Ariza would be a good backup for Kawhi. Vesely would be neat if only to further expand the international flavor of the Spurs roster.
They just used the 3rd overall pick on a SF and signed Martell Webster to the full MLE. They also have 3 other players on rookie contracts who can play SF. Ariza is most definitely expendable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
Dude, he was salary ballast to make the Okafor trade work. He's played horrible for them, except maybe 4-6 weeks last year. His stock is not high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
Webster, Gee, Porter, Singelton. It's not all that crazy considering he's a 20-25 min guy avg 9 pts a gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
They've made commitments to Webster & Porter @ the 3. Ariza's contract is pretty high for a rebuilding team that will only give him spot minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
Gee is a Cav. not a Wiz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingsly Alexander
Ariza for Blair and Bonner would be great. He's close to 6'9 in shoes, can shoot, defend and is expiring.
I would like Seraphin in a S&T
Vesely is a massive bust and so is Singleton.
Vesely has a team option next year so if the staff didn't like what they saw, they could easily hit the reset button next offseason. Then there's a restricted qualifying offer the next year (same situation is Leonard but paid more - nice job on that pick Wizards). No idea why a team that had no shot at the playoffs didn't try harder at developing him last season by playing him just 12 minutes a game. I guess his foul shooting was really that bad. But it's not like Okafor is ever going to be a key piece in your puzzle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Wiz seemed to like Seraphin more who is just a year older. Do you think Vesely still has more untapped potential? Not sure what I think on Ariza - he may be a chucker on a bad team but a nice tool for a good team. Another consideration is the Wiz have a decent shot at the playoffs (I see two of them, Detroit and Cleveland making it) this year so (1) their draft pick isn't going to be THAT good, albeit in a stacked draft and (2) a guy like Ariza will help them win games
Exactly. This isn't 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Re: Spurs not wanting to trade Bonner, I know its mostly a joke, but can't we pretty much surmise that Bonner was in the S&T the Spurs wanted to do with Minnesota for Kirilenko? If they were going to pay him $8-9m as reported wouldn't Bonner's contract had to have been in the deal?
Ok I stand corrected. Thought he was still a baller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
I'd gladly take back junk if they'll throw in a 1st round pick. No way they give us a 2014, but maybe a 2015 or 2016?
For sure, but I think the fact that he has improved should be a testament to his hard work. You want guys to improve and not necessarily regress, and he's definitely done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingsly Alexander
S&T Neal & Blair for an combined annual sal of 7-8 mil + Bonner and De Colo for Okafor's expiring contract plus a 1st Rd. pick and the rights to Emir Preldžić.
Domt know how in the hell this would work, but whatever
The deadline to pick Vesely 2014-2015 team option is November 1st 2013. They will have to decide at the end of the training camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw
I'm not a huge fan of Seraphin. He isn't a good defender or rebounder and is soft offensively (rarely get to the line). I would go with Vesely over him even if his NBA career has been a disaster so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw
My perfect S&T scenario with Washington would be Bonner + De Colo + Blair for Ariza +Vesely.
To make it work it would require Blair being paid $4M per year. If Washington isn't ready to pay him that much, Mills or Baynes could be added to match salaries.
Ariza would be a great backup SF option. He's the only one I'd be interested in a potential trade with Washington tbh.
Would rather add Baynes and then go big time for Oden to replace him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan
Sure, but in all do respect when you reach the pinnacle do ur season and u come up flat, after 4 yrs of failure it's hard to imagine him maturing to the point where he could have a Steve Kerr type impact all of a sudden at the age of 33
then you cut him not a big deal
spurs need a backup sf
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Originally Posted by Mel_13
Ariza would be fine as a backup SF. He's getting paid too much and has sucked when given too much responsibility but in a smaller role he'd be helpful to the Spurs. The Spurs need for size on the perimeter is glaring, so the cost/need part of the scenario can be somewhat overlooked.