14,5 millions is because he had bad contracts in the past, now that he is done they are giving him big money like they did Finley
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14,5 millions is because he had bad contracts in the past, now that he is done they are giving him big money like they did Finley
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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro
and also what annoys me is that the spurs beat writer said manu was underpaid for manu years
wtf? did spurs pay jeff to post such stupidest to try to satisfy the fans?
how much money has the spurs paid him already before the deal?
denver never even gave him a formal offer according to him last fa
imo he was never going anywhere
Too much for as little as we'll get from him at this stage in his career but the majority of people seem to be okay with this so I won't argue the point..
It's always hard to judge these things, but my thought process is roughly as follows -
Tim took a 50% pay cut after coming off a solid 15.4/9/2 season on very good efficiency for a big man (49.2% from the field), and that's not even considering what he brings to defense. He had one of his best defensive seasons last season in addition to improving his offensive stats, but nobody could've guessed that so we can only really go by his '11-'12 numbers.
Manu had his worst (or maybe 2nd worst) season in the history of his career from efficiency to injuries to you name it. He also took a 50% pay cut.
Tim's 50% cut is the metric I use to judge Manu.
I made the same Chinook argument with regards to Duncan before to. While Tim has taken less money, he is still a top 10 paid player of all time IIRC so it's not like the Spurs didn't take care of him. But when it got to the stage where the Spurs needed more, Duncan (and to a lesser degree Parker) took less and are still performing at a high level consistently. Manu is not.
It's always extremely hilarious when people most likely NOT making more than 100 K/year are bitching about rich men paying, or overpaying, another rich man.
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Originally Posted by timvp
Gotta sell those jerseys. Manu speaks spanish, that's all that matters to large segment of casual Spurs fans.
There's no basketball reason to make such a commitment to a scrub.
Can you read the comments before you state your opinion? Stop with this "Manu took a 50% pay cut" argument because he didn't . If you read the comments above, you'll note that Manu DID NOT take a pay cut from his market value. If Manu would have taken a 50% pay cut, then he should of resigned for $3.5M/year or $7M/2year and not the bloated $14M/2 year contract that he took. In my very personal opinion, Manu's not even worth $7M/year market value but that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by jestersmash
Well, no matter on how much we may agree on what we think Manu's market value is/was, it's a fact he took a 50% pay cut from last year.
Apparently if you think Manu is even slightly overpaid, you're a ungrateful shithead who doesn't recognize anything he has done for the Spurs and you aren't happy to have him back.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Yeah but not from the market value. TD is underpaid according to his market value. Based on your argument, then Manu deserved to resign with the Spurs for $28M.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Most reasonable argument you've made and I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Not really, but it's pointless to debate this aspect of things.
LJ...picking up the ant farm and shaking it...and watching the pissed off ants crawl.
LMAO, please get Manu's coc* off your mouth. DPG21920 is one of the most knowledgeable persons on ST. So is Bruno and Chinook.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
I think he was mocking people who say you essentially hate Manu if you try to argue his contract is too much.
RC was referencing earlier in Manu's career when he could have gone elsewhere for higher pay. Hopefully everyone gets the memo by nowQuote:
Originally Posted by urunobili
Despite what happened in games 6 and 7 of the finals, I am happy he signed on for another 2 years. I will never forget being at game 5 of the finals last month and all of the fans in the arena chanting MANU.
wow. just wow. as if the basketball gods decided 28 seconds before the buzzer that those fans don't deserve a 5th parade. treating Manu worse than Jefferson after he signed his extension, is the most classless episode of any fan base ever. the most ridiculous part of it is, that those little minds are acting, as if the one or two million they claim he got to much, put a damper on the Spurs future. ridiculous.
he got the money b/c the Spurs believe he is worth the number. it's only a few months ago that every true and every wannabe Spurs fan would wholehearted declare that Manu is the heart of this team. this heart had some cardiac arrhythmia and every other "fan" calls it worthless. remember, you can't live without your heart. neither can a team. there is no price tag on your heart.
Manu made 107 M in his NBA career. gross.
That makes 65 M net?
Plus the endorsements.
I dont' think Nicola AND Dante' grandsons will have a bit of a financial problem.
They should have gotten rid of Manu after the 2007 title. He has done more harm to the team in their title quest with all the injuries and poor play in the playoffs for what they have paid him during all those years.
Sometimes people need a heart transplant.Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainballer
Well if Manu signs at 3M, Spurs would have gotten that famous Euroleague champion Kirilenko, who obviously would have chosen San Antonio over New York, and Holt over his Russian buddy.....Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainballer