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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Joseph has to have all but locked up the back up spot behind Parker.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Liked Denmon. I still think he can be a 15th man in this league. De Colo had a nice game, which should help his trade value. His body language was much better tonight, but I have to see what it looks like when he's not playing well to see if he's had an epiphany. Baynes played like we should expect him to do against a bean pole. He certainly looked every bit as promising as he looked in spots last season. Joseph was quiet tonight, but I thought he did all right. I'm glad he got most of second half off. Richards sulked on the bench -- not a good thing for the coaches to see. And Pittman looked good, but I don't get why he's getting so many minutes right now.
Good game. By my count, the Spurs have 12 points now. Let's hope that makes for a good seed.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Spurs just have to pick a backup PG and stick with him, whether it's CoJo or Nando (I'd go with CoJo tbh), and trade the other. If the choice fails, move on. All else fails Neal as backup (:lmao)...
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
He is not Kawhi by far but he can guard spot up shooters just not fast guys but he is a better shooter then Kawhi.
Yeah we still don't have a PG that I would want getting minutes in a Finals match.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Thomas looks pretty damn limited defensively tbh. He's got good size and strength but he will have some serious issues guarding NBA SF's. Doesn't look like he has the quickness. I like his offense and scoring and I think he can be a good situational role player against teams who roll out a player he can stay in front of.
I thought Baynes played fantastic tonight. Guy needs to get minutes next season.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
DesignatedT
Baynes and Thomas :tu
Spurs have serious questions at the backup PG. Seems like nobody can consistently put together good minutes. Cory plays well for a week then throws up a dud and then De Colo plays awful one night and then comes out with a fantastic performance. Not sure either of these guys are the answer there long term.
You know what is funny, even if you look at good role players (cough*JR Smith*cough*Jamal Crawford*) they are very up and down. Most rotation players that are role players that aren't considered elite role players have a ton of up's and down's so the guys you mentioned are no different. Sure we would like more consistency, but they show the ability to do very well at times.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Baynes needs to work with Tiago and teach him that hook shot... not that sweeping crap
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
How is Thomas on defense? What is his ceiling there? If he has any defensive potential and willing to work hard to improve on that end, then I am very interested. He already seems pretty good on offense, but he is going to have to play defense to be on the Spurs.
I've been waiting a long time for the Spurs to move back to elite defense, and last season was a great step in that direction. Unfortunately, I don't want players that are hopeless defensively with no potential on that end of the court.
They were the #3 defense during the regular season last year and #1 in the playoffs IIRC. That's pretty damn elite already.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
You know what is funny, even if you look at good role players (cough*JR Smith*cough*Jamal Crawford*) they are very up and down. Most rotation players that are role players that aren't considered elite role players have a ton of up's and down's so the guys you mentioned are no different. Sure we would like more consistency, but they show the ability to do very well at times.
You're right. I think the Spurs will find themselves with a pg they don't trust again though in the playoffs if they keep rolling them out by committee behind Parker all season. The above poster was right when he said we still don't have another PG who I would trust in a finals series.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
no way the spurs are including thomas to wizzards for blair
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Liked Denmon. I still think he can be a 15th man in this league. .
denmon has played very well defensively...............................
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
DesignatedT
Thomas looks pretty damn limited defensively tbh. He's got good size and strength but he will have some serious issues guarding NBA SF's. Doesn't look like he has the quickness. I like his offense and scoring and I think he can be a good situational role player against teams who roll out a player he can stay in front of.
I thought Baynes played fantastic tonight. Guy needs to get minutes next season.
Thomas is so slow. He can't defend the break at all. I don't know how he's going to make it on the perimeter. But the team has to try to get him to play there. All this small-ball four stuff isn't doing him any good if they view him as Leonard's long-term backup.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
i'll have to read through this thread but it was fun watching this game. props for people on here keeping others posted. Thomas, imho, is a steal. Not sure what his ceiling is, but the guy looks so natural scoring, similar to Neal.
good seeing Baynes rebound the shit out of it and De Colo had a good game.
tbh, after the Finals, seeing us win again, even if inconsequential, feels good.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Baynes was a beast tonight. This is how I was hoping he would play in summer league play this year.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Thomas is so slow. He can't defend the break at all. I don't know how he's going to make it on the perimeter. But the team has to try to get him to play there. All this small-ball four stuff isn't doing him any good if they view him as Leonard's long-term backup.
I'm not sure his future spot is at the NBA 3 position. Looks more like a stretch 4 who can kind of fill Bonner's role. This is why he dropped so far.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
TXstbobcat
Joseph has to have all but locked up the back up spot behind Parker.
:tu
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
If Thomas can improve his defense and play the 3, he'll be KL back-up.
I see a Ryan Gomez resemblance in terms of style of play.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
DesignatedT
I'm not sure his future spot is at the NBA 3 position. Looks more like a stretch 4 who can kind of fill Bonner's role. This is why he dropped so far.
I just don't see it, honestly. He'll get abused by every big that goes up against him as of yet. He's pretty strong, but his standing reach is barely longer than Green. (By the way, I didn't know Green measured out at 6-7 in shoes. That's pretty impressive.) If that's true, he'll be really situational in the NBA -- even more so that Bonner is.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Thomas is so slow. He can't defend the break at all. I don't know how he's going to make it on the perimeter. But the team has to try to get him to play there. All this small-ball four stuff isn't doing him any good if they view him as Leonard's long-term backup.
Sounds like Gary Neal ...
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Update after Game 3
| Name |
G |
GS |
MPG |
FG% |
3p% |
FT% |
OFF |
DEF |
RPG |
APG |
SPG |
BPG |
TO |
PF |
PPG |
| Aron Baynes |
3 |
3 |
27.0 |
0.485 |
0.000 |
0.600 |
3.3 |
7.3 |
10.7 |
0.3 |
0.30 |
1.70 |
3.00 |
4.70 |
11.7 |
| Nando De Colo |
3 |
3 |
32.0 |
0.385 |
0.267 |
1.000 |
0.0 |
2.0 |
2.0 |
4.3 |
1.70 |
0.00 |
2.70 |
4.70 |
12.7 |
| Tyler Brown |
0 |
0 |
0.0 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
| Marcus Denmon |
3 |
0 |
18.0 |
0.370 |
0.250 |
1.000 |
0.3 |
0.7 |
1.0 |
1.7 |
1.30 |
0.00 |
1.70 |
2.00 |
8.3 |
| Cory Joseph |
3 |
3 |
32.7 |
0.424 |
0.300 |
0.750 |
1.3 |
3.3 |
4.7 |
5.0 |
1.00 |
0.30 |
4.00 |
2.00 |
13.3 |
| Amath M'Baye |
3 |
0 |
11.0 |
0.333 |
0.000 |
1.000 |
0.7 |
1.3 |
2.0 |
0.3 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
1.00 |
2.00 |
2.7 |
| James Mays |
2 |
0 |
10.5 |
0.500 |
0.000 |
0.750 |
0.5 |
0.5 |
1.0 |
0.5 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
3.00 |
4.5 |
| Dexter Pittman |
2 |
0 |
15.5 |
0.333 |
0.000 |
1.000 |
2.5 |
3.5 |
6.0 |
1.0 |
1.00 |
2.00 |
2.00 |
4.50 |
5.0 |
| Ryan Richards |
2 |
0 |
6.5 |
0.286 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.5 |
1.0 |
1.5 |
0.0 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.50 |
2.00 |
2.0 |
| Durand Scott |
3 |
0 |
4.3 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.0 |
0.7 |
0.7 |
0.7 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.30 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
| Deshaun Thomas |
3 |
3 |
28.7 |
0.541 |
0.500 |
0.833 |
1.7 |
3.3 |
5.0 |
1.0 |
0.70 |
0.30 |
2.00 |
2.30 |
17.0 |
| Hollis Thompson |
3 |
3 |
24.3 |
0.389 |
0.200 |
0.857 |
2.7 |
3.3 |
6.0 |
1.7 |
0.70 |
0.30 |
1.70 |
1.00 |
7.0 |
| Alexis Wangmene |
1 |
0 |
2.0 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
| Chris Wright |
0 |
0 |
0.0 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.000 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
| Team Averages |
|
|
200 |
0.385 |
0.238 |
0.833 |
11.0 |
23.0 |
34.0 |
10.5 |
6.5 |
1.5 |
17.50 |
21.50 |
72.5 |
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
If Bonner is on an NBA team im sure Thomas will make it somewhere. Bonner provides absolutely nothing of value to the Spurs.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
Matthew R Tynan @Matthew_Tynan
Ime Udoka said Cory Joseph got banged up, which is why Nando got a lot of PG minutes tonight. Wasn't really planned.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
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Originally Posted by
lmbebo
Sounds like Gary Neal ...
No. Neal's problem's on defense are height and awareness. He has the foot speed to get back on the break (he was often there at rim). He just can't do anything to stop the opposing player from scoring.
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Re: Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hawks - July 15, 2013
He'll play the 3... he might be slow but not everyone in the NBA is a speedster at the 3 that's off the bench.. The guy will come in 2nd or 3rd unit and be a scorer who can create his own shot
