Dallas pushes to join the San Antonio Spurs and Miami Heat for Oden Sweepstakes

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Originally Posted by Duncanonu

I forgot about Pendergraph, but I'm pretty confident that Bonner is not only the Spurs worst player, but a candidate for worst player in the NBA. If Pendergraph is somehow worse, then why on earth would the Spurs have signed him? If Bonner were cut today, he would be signed by a Spurs rival (vet minimum) purely 100% for Spurs corporate knowledge. If it weren't for that, nobody would sign him because he is trash.

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:rolleyes

Can the Spurs offer anything more than the Heat? If not it doesn't make sense for him to come to a team with multiple starting caliber centers over the Heat.

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He's going to Miami tbh. Esp with Mike Miller gone now.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

Can the Spurs offer anything more than the Heat? If not it doesn't make sense for him to come to a team with multiple starting caliber centers over the Heat.

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It does if he has the opportunity to be groomed into Duncan's replacement going forward.

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Originally Posted by Duncanonu

I forgot about Pendergraph, but I'm pretty confident that Bonner is not only the Spurs worst player, but a candidate for worst player in the NBA. If Pendergraph is somehow worse, then why on earth would the Spurs have signed him? If Bonner were cut today, he would be signed by a Spurs rival (vet minimum) purely 100% for Spurs corporate knowledge. If it weren't for that, nobody would sign him because he is trash.

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The worst player in the NBA was a substantial part of our playoff campaign against the Grizz.

Our winning playoff campaign.

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Originally Posted by admiralsnackbar

The worst player in the NBA was a substantial part of our playoff campaign against the Grizz.

Our winning playoff campaign.

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When did Michael Beasley help the Spurs beat the Grizzlies?

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Originally Posted by Budkin

It does if he has the opportunity to be groomed into Duncan's replacement going forward.

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Potential playing time on the back-to-back champs would be more important for the majority of players.

So its between spurs and heat yeah odens not coming here

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Originally Posted by slick'81

So its between spurs and heat yeah odens not coming here

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Most likely correct.

If Oden is healthy and he plays 20 minutes a game he can give us 9ppg, 7rpg, and 1.5bpg a game. Now if he can handle 30-36 minutes a game he can put 20ppg, 12rpg, and 2-3bpg.

Spurs don't have cap room to offer a big contract anyways so I'm fine with Oden. Low risk, high reward.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

I thought Ilgauskas' career was done for and then he put in a solid decade of work.

Yes, two different situations. Still, Oden is only 25. With the knees of a 35 year old.

Still, if he can play, he brings interior defense and rebounding. It wouldn't be a bad gamble if we're talking about a vet min contract.

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So, I guess this means he needs to play until he's 45. That's in knee years of course.

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Originally Posted by 007nites

If Oden is healthy and he plays 20 minutes a game he can give us 9ppg, 7rpg, and 1.5bpg a game. Now if he can handle 30-36 minutes a game he can put 20ppg, 12rpg, and 2-3bpg.

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True. Also, if my considerable penny stock holdings were to considerably appreciate in value, I would be a rich man overnight.

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Originally Posted by 007nites

If Oden is healthy and he plays 20 minutes a game he can give us 9ppg, 7rpg, and 1.5bpg a game. Now if he can handle 30-36 minutes a game he can put 20ppg, 12rpg, and 2-3bpg.

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I think we should play him 48 minutes a game so that he could average 32ppg, 18rpg and 5-6bpg.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

I think we should play him 48 minutes a game so that he could average 32ppg, 18rpg and 5-6bpg.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by 007nites

If Oden is healthy and he plays 20 minutes a game he can give us 9ppg, 7rpg, and 1.5bpg a game. Now if he can handle 30-36 minutes a game he can put 20ppg, 12rpg, and 2-3bpg.

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:lol:lol:lol:lol

If he can handle 30-36 minutes??? Dude could barely handle 25.

How exactly is this a Sweepstakes?

Oden's knees will hold up for about 20 - 30 games at best.

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

So, I guess this means he needs to play until he's 45. That's in knee years of course.

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Well, until he's 37, in knee years. Or in reality, dude looks ancient. I would be interested in him for the rest of the TD era, which appears to be 2 years.

If he was able to give you 15 healthy minutes a night of defense and rebounding, the Spurs would have the best bigman rotation in the L. That is asking for a lot, given his history, but for his talent level it's worth a vet min contract to see if he can.

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Originally Posted by playblair

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That play is representational of how much vertical leap Oden has left.

I'm sorry, but if Oden doesn't clearly have the Spurs as his number 1 choice then he is borderline retarded.

1. Spurs have one of the all-time great big men that he can learn from. If he is serious about improving as a basketball player, then there is no one better to teach him than Tim. Tim is also someone that didn't have great athleticism to begin with, but also lost a good bit of what he did have with his knee injury early in his career. Tim can really teach him how to approach the game differently. He'd get great on the job training, not sure what he can learn in Miami as far as big man game goes.

2. Pop won't push him, he'll also look after him minutes wise and do the best thing for him. He won't be asked to play more minutes than he is capable of.

3. If Oden can make a successful comeback, Spurs will have money in a couple of years where they can possibly offer him a much better contract. Miami is capped out and likely will never have any significant money to offer him if they resign Lebron and Wade.

I really don't get why the Heat would be at the top of his list. If he was older and past his prime and wanted a chance to win a ring, then yes, Miami would be a great place for him, but right now, it shouldn't even be a contest between the two teams. If he wants to do what is best for him, then I just don't see how he couldn't choose the Spurs, that is, if the Spurs actually really want him.

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Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo

We thought the same thing about Nando and he ended up riding the pine during the playoffs. IMO, this is is low-risk, no reward.

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Who thought Nando was low risk? Do you mean before we've seen him play to realize he's a sloppy gambler who turns the ball over too much?

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Originally Posted by playblair

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That's when RJ was still athletic and posterizing people though. He sucked the last year or two we had him, but he used to be good. That play's not really a knock on Oden imo. It's more a show of how good RJ was supposed to be.

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Originally Posted by Duncanonu

I forgot about Pendergraph, but I'm pretty confident that Bonner is not only the Spurs worst player, but a candidate for worst player in the NBA. If Pendergraph is somehow worse, then why on earth would the Spurs have signed him? If Bonner were cut today, he would be signed by a Spurs rival (vet minimum) purely 100% for Spurs corporate knowledge. If it weren't for that, nobody would sign him because he is trash.

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Obviously, you don't watch too many NBA games do you.