lol editing in an opinion after i called you out
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lol editing in an opinion after i called you out
lol beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by m>s
I don't see your opinion anywhere. Waiting for stormfront to weigh in?
no that doesn't make sense because if it was before i would have quoted the full thing instead of just the original.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
my opinion has been known, US imperialism is at it again. i actually have opinions and am not afraid to voice them, you don't coward.
Of course it makes sense. One can start editing before you post.Quote:
Originally Posted by m>s
That's just an Alex Jones buzzword.Quote:
my opinion has been known, US imperialism is at it again
What do you actually mean by that?
If you just once tried to connect more than a couple of neurons you would realize he can barely look out his window and keep tabs with his loved ones, yet you want him to contact the press for what reason exactly? what is the press going to do according to your Hollywood experience? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Unfortunately you have no clue on what is living a situation like that and hopefully never will. Let me break it to you, it is nothing like the hollywood movies you watch
I don't find this to be an lol thing tbh. If it's that serious, why not let it be known by any means possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
When did you? When you learned Farsi?Quote:
Unfortunately you have no clue on what is living a situation like that and hopefully never will. Let me break it to you, it is nothing like the hollywood movies you watch
I'm saying whitemamba could easily talk to the media. Almost as easily as he posts on SpursTalk. Alex Jones is on six days a week.
nice backtrack, now his uncle doesn't have to contact the media, whitemamba should do it now :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
and what would talking to the media accomplish exactly?
again this is not a Hollywood movie where an email to "the media" will be taken seriously much less have them do anything about it. this is not Erin Brockovich :lol
So they never move about and leave where they are but you think they are qualified to comment on what comprise rebel forces around the country. Are salafi elements running around trying to implement sharia in his neighborhood? Are they watching syrian TV?Quote:
Originally Posted by whitemamba
That was among the options all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
The same thing it's accomplishing here. Informing. What would it hurt? Why would you want him to shut up about it? Is that what you would do in the same situation?Quote:
and what would talking to the media accomplish exactly?
Alex Jones is on six days a week. Are you saying no one listens to him? His is just the easiest outlet to reach that I can think of offhand.Quote:
again this is not a Hollywood movie where an email to "the media" will be taken seriously much less have them do anything about it. this is not Erin Brockovich :lol
Your idea of "the media" is dated and small-minded tbh.
Nah I thought that there was mass transit and free gas. That there was no shelling and free phone service from Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
People that think that 'MSM' have not reported this type of thing are the ones that are deluded.
The people who read it the least whine about it the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
bullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by whitemamba
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lmao :lmao :lmao Chump to the tree of woe :lol
:lol tea party Constitution rhetoric? Couldn't have pigeonholed your self better. Nice mindless flail though.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitemamba
What facet of history would you care to discuss? Regardless of history as pertains to current events there is still no good census on the rebel factions. And it definitely seems that you don't understand the difference between a qualification and a quantification or how it relates to the issue of census.
DERP CONSTITUTION!!!!! DERP DERPY DERP!!!!!
What I want to know is that if they have no internet and no phone then how does he get updates from them constantly. I smell bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I can only guess they probably have intermittent cellular serviceQuote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
constant dialogueQuote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
Che is severely butthurt, only cares about me now -- not Syria or the US for that manner.
He's upset that he never learned Farsi and didn't live in a war zone.
He said constant and he has multiple sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
Looks like it wouldn't be hard to pick up a phone and call a talk show, but maybe it is.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao Erin Brocovich
SA210 still salty about admitting he lied.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Post more about me and not the topic.
whitemamba, you have arrived. You now have the credibility that having che and SA210 alongside brings. Congrats. You get WC and/or boutox as well and you are golden.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lmao chump still salty from the chumpgate 9/11 thread and hasn't let it go
:lmao Erin Brocovich comment poured salt on his wounds
In fairness though, WM, you don't exhibit the sad sad defense mechanisms and emotional limitations that those two do. I will not equate you to them. That wouldn't be fair.
Fuzzy salty :lol
The best part of it is a self-proclaimed political activist and another champion of alternative media is telling everyone that whitemamba would be wasting his time calling the Alex Jones show to tell his audience of his family's plight.
All because I suggested it.
That's how butthurt they are.
Be careful. SA210 might need to bolster his ego and pretend like he was able to make you mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
He'll just make it all about me. He's got nothing to say about the OP or whitemamba's family..
77, 400 posts. The leader in actual post counts of the entire forum....all consisting of following posters around chasing male tail at all hours of the day and night online for more than a decade while changing topics and arguing nothing but petty crap..
Yea, we all know who the butthurt one is :lmao :lmao
Told ya.
Honestly i'd rather talk about the topics raised here.
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
He's like a trained monkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Dance monkey dance.
Don't be so angry, monkey. I thought you didn't care what I said.. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I don't know if that is the right way to describe it. I get amusement to an extent from what you say but it is in a way that I feel debases myself a bit. Pity and amused contempt are not productive. I can see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
It's more along the lines of your actual takes on anything in no way influence what my takes on particular things are. It's not that I don't care per se.
Yet another into the fruitbat lair.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitemamba
Is this yet another example of the vocal minority drowning out the silent majority solely due to zealous insanity?
The question is rhetorical in nature.
Good God...
you must be an incredibly weak minded person IRL the way you constantly defend the status quo and US government honor. we'll get you some knee pads and a bib so you can keep your TSA uniform nice and clean fag boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
I don't know the history of this owner pet relationship, it does appear that the chumpster has a trained chump.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Amazing one can accomplish this online.
Ouch.Quote:
Originally Posted by m>s
Bite me Nazi puss.
Why so many nazi Mavs fans? Dirk?
One special poster has not been around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Axegrinder
I would guess two or three accounts.
your little cocker spaniel is also pretty much invisible, guy i wouldnt puff your chest out after just getting verbally raped
Bite me Nazi trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by m>s
afghanistan in the 80s, vietnam, iraq Twice, libya.. etc.. are u fucking serious? the us has no god damn credibility at all, they are at the center of all this bull shit, the US military has been slowly invading the middle east for years, and has been trying to get to iran, thats the god damn plan..Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
I actually said that, i guess hes not reading my posts, they have cell reception and land lines pretty often, but depending on the altercations in the area, they lose all connection to the outside world.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
Read my fucking posts, I said they have phones for the most part, and internet comes and goes, quit trying to fucking spin shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
o jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
So having conflicting interests is enough to be enemies?Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Sorry but this is beyond COld war thinking. This is a childish insecurity complex. THE US WON. YOUR MILITARY HAS MORE THAN 50X THE CAPACITY OF THE RUSSIAN MILITARY, MORE THAN 10,000X THE SYRIAN MILITARY. Just because Russia doesnt vote the same as you at the UN, and because they *gasp* want to compete for resources doesnt make them an enemy. It makes them ANOTHER COUNTRY.
Ok, Syria helps Iran. Can you give me specific examples of the types and magnitude of problems they have caused the US and its allies? Are you comfortable that their list is smaller than yours? Is it really enough to justify bombing a country in the middle of a civil war?
As far as press, I think it is very difficult to quantify how many hells more freer your press is. But assuming that it is at the very least moderately freer- since when does free = accurate? Unless I totally misunderstood my philosophy courses in high school, they are completely disparate concepts. One could argue that a "free" press has a better chance to be accurate, but given the economic model of most press outlets I think you are grossly overstating that chance.
People are so brainwashed by the media...
-Whitemamba
People who follow current events rely on some sort of source to gather information. Now that there are so many outlets we have to pick and choose what we deem credible. We are not in Syria. In order to carry out a chemical attack of this magnitude the perpetrators must have access to a sophisticated delivery system and it must be well coordinated.
So what group in Syria, at this time, has these capabilities? The military.
The fact that you have relatives living day to day in this mayhem is indeed sad. But in the end, for the people on this board, you are but another source of information. A person reads your posts and puts them up against everything else they have read and deem credible.
So tell me what being brainwashed by the media means in today's world?
We are supposed to believe what we read by a poster on ST who has relatives who know people who have access to information from the street? And this is more reliable than anything else WE read? Really?
There are people on this board that have a worldview that some of us deem ideological and static. It does not change, and it is not based on credible evidence. These people seek out information based on their idealology. They don't form opinions based on credible evidence. They instead seek evidence that fits their idealology. Rational people do not do this. So when you come on this board and state you are glad to share you views with rational people...
You can understand the skepticism I hope.
A free press also self critiques information accuracy. News outlets get punched by others if they are incorrect in their haste to be first with information.Quote:
Originally Posted by diego
What press do you read that you deem credible? Lets share sources since we all are after the same thing, the facts as we know them currently. Since we are not zealots and ideologues lets share.
crickets
its one thing to be accurate, another to include all relevant information. Omission is the easiest and safest way to manipulate an argument. On top of that the "free" press' (corporate) ownership uses it to sell their products and the politicians that sell their products, and actual journalism takes a back seat to that and you get papers / news hours that barely contain actual news, let alone a comprehensive account of confirmed facts. Thats why its important to look at multiple sources. I dont have the time or the energy to follow all stories closely and I havent been doing so with this one (and I dont live in the US so I see some international media you probably arent familiar with). But I dont really need to know who fired what when the proposed solution is damaging for every party involved (save maybe Israel or oil speculators). And especially damaging for the supposed victims.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
How is bombing a country in the middle of a civil war going to help? When the japanese did that to the chinese the entire world condemned them for being opportunistic cowards. Either take the weapons away or let them finish their war. If Assad wins then you can go after him, but bombing them doesnt help them and it doesnt help the US. Its hardly heroic to suckerpunch a bully from afar, less so if you run the risk of trampling his victims. Justice requires investigation and communication, piling more rubble and more bodies on top doesnt help. Regardless of whether the rebels are AQ or not, another US bomb run is only going to make the US more enemies in Syria and around the world. Especially considering the only other modern era chemical attack the US either looked the other way or actually helped, depending on your sources.
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Originally Posted by diego
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If you only read big US newspapers and watch cable news you are going to be really confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
The internet is this amazing invention that lets people link thousands of different news sources together without having to read them all on a day by day basis. If you click around enough all of a sudden the bigger picture starts to emerge and you can make up your own mind as to what seems most likely to have actually happened.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by angrydude
Stay away from just one view. See what they all agree on, and what they disagree on. Parse and think about the facts presented and ignore the journalists opinion. In reviewing more than one source, you will find relevant facts omitted by others.
Truth bombQuote:
Originally Posted by diego
The 2nd paragraph is totally off subject. Even though I agree with the main point, or at least question the strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by diego
I asked you WHERE you get your information. I can decide for myself if it is reasonable.
I don't need more corporate/press conspiracy theories. I need to know where you get your information.
That failed to deploy...Quote:
Originally Posted by symple19
Not if you read State run media and nut case blogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by angrydude
One cannot read everything.
Give us your best sites.
pgrdn in denial :lol
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
I just don't guzzle snake oil like your retarded ass.
Uhh... How was 9/11 covered up?
Shit, I forgot, you explained how the Gov. silenced hundreds of people involved.
Hell, probably thousands. Could we get that again please?
:lol now you exaggerate with extremes
Describing something that you in fact did is not an exaggeration, chachi.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Now that's some funny shit:lmao chachiQuote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Hahahahaaha you're a funny dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Sorry..I couldn't understand u w Obama's dick in ur mouth lolQuote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Chachi loves Putin
^^ another pussy with Obama cock in his mouth
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Originally Posted by SA210
Good show :tu
SO much worse getting Chachi-rolled than Rick-rolled :lol
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Originally Posted by pgardn
http://en.rsf.org/IMG/jpg/2013_wpfi_...reedom_map.jpg
So with above in mind (yes I realize the criteria in this rating system is not bullet proof) where do people go to get information off the Internet realizing that there are thousands of sources, some of which have very clear agendas?
One might think Finland (ranked #1), yet Finland does not have people on the ground and sources to compare with for example the BBC, The Guardian, The NY Times. Just because a country allows for more press freedom does not automatically imply that their press will not have an ideological bend. I think readers in the UK and US would classify the aforementioned news organizations as more liberal.
So I make a plea for sharing and reason and this is what I get...
I dont have the time or the energy to follow all stories closely and I havent been doing so with this one (and I dont live in the US so I see some international media you probably arent familiar with).
-Diego
And from a relatively sane poster as far as I can tell.
I can only conclude that putting up sources will cause ridicule by posters who most likely have sources that have a clear ideology and, in the case of Che, SA10, etc... are most likely written by fruitbats.
pgardn, part of my point was that its not very useful to just list sources. Circumstances dictate for each story what sources are "best". Even the best paper can make mistakes, whether it be factual inaccuracy or editorial stupidity. The only paper I consider "above" the rest is the guardian and like I said I dont trust anything and everything they publish.
Many many times even when you do follow a story closely and read every paper, you are still left with doubts as to what "really" happened. In this case i think that is the most likely outcome and that is part of the reason I havent followed closely. The other is that I live thousands of miles away from both syria and the US and it barely affects me. If I were from the US or lived in the US I would be out protesting, for sure (as I did in the aftermath of 9/11, against the patriot act and attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq).
fucking chump and sa210 fagging up another thread with their sexual tension. your arguments are so fucking retarded and childish. grow up pussies
Why the troll?
What's wrong? Don't like competition?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I was referring to the different screen name, genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You couldn't understand because you're unintelligent.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA210
Now get back to changing quotes and other such spam.
So now what do you say and what was obvious all along?Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
The best thing to do is let assad finish of the AQ rebels, then demand assad to remove his chemical weapons, if the case can be made that those weapons would end up being a threat to our citizens in the future. But going in there and then holding "democracy" is noob neocon shit that is going to backfire.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
That flew right over your head, troll...
Seems like it flew right over your head since I had to explain it to you, liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
:lol It didQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra