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Unless these guys are linemen or play some other athletic sport where they are extremely strong, is there any reason why these extremely obese Americans shouldn't just be put to death? All they're doing is just wasting our tax dollars and that problem is only going to increase as they get older.
What i hate seeing is little fat children waddling around trying to play like normal kids but too fat to run or climb. Its child abuse to do that to a kid and we should prosecute their lazy-ass parents. Kids end up being emo mental messes and live deprived lives missing many of the notable things that bring joy into living.
My brother in law is 6-2, 340 at 28.
But he was an offensive lineman in HS and college until knee injuries ended his career as a sophomore. He goes to the gym three times a week, works a physically demanding job as a in-house caretaker, but while better, his old bad habits of eating, and mostly weight training with little actual cardio, plus his bum knees, make it tough to lose the weight.
I've seen him run while playing sports. The guy runs like 40-yo Sabonis.
Where's the line drawn? For what it's worth, he's raising his 6-yo kid to be active in youth soccer, teeball, and MMA.
how much of it has got to do when the supply chain of ur foods? how much of it is GM or shit injected with growth hormones?
More that people are told. It's not just GMO, it's in chemicals absorbed from everyday situations, soaps, containers, x-icides used on lawns and crops by the Bs of pounds, sythethic chemicals everywhere, only a tiny percentage have been test for toxicity orQuote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
Do These Chemicals Make Me Look Fat?
http://www.propublica.org/images/nge...420_131011.jpg
http://www.propublica.org/article/do...ke-me-look-fat
While chemicals, esp hormone disruptors, are a problem, the overwhelming cause of overweight and obesity is the toxic, pathogenic S.A.D. Standard American (corporate/USDA/FDA) Diet based on refined carbohydrates and procesed dead food-like substance in packages. Anybody saying he morbidly obese because of bad knees and no exercise is lying to himself.
Not talking about det, I really just mean lazy fat assesQuote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
Sup, log in/log out goods
Sure, but he has had several weight-related health issues, hasn't been a productive athlete in 7/8 years, and is unlikely to ever lose the weight due to knees unless he gets gastric bypass.Quote:
Originally Posted by log in/log out goods
While he's a productive member of society who works hard, helps with multiple athletic causes, he's a current and likely much larger future burden, since his conditions are only going to get worse, and his company's insurance isn't very good.
Where's the line drawn?
I agree something needs to be done.
I'm at a loss about this generation. There's nothing unpleasant about walking. And veggies taste great with many types of meals.
"I'm at a loss about this generation."
?? overweight, obesity, decrepitude is currently at all ages. America The UnBeautiful
eatting and sitting around no daily excercise would baloon you up...Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
The ages that are converged in this current era.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
This is the fattest American has ever been.
Hey, I could lose 30 pounds to be close to the BMI ideal. I like pizza and pasta. But I hike, walk, and occasionally still play sports. I eat veggies, and avoid fast food. My blood pressure is perfect, cholesterol ideal.
But I have great health insurance and never miss the typical yearly tests.
But I see students in this current generation who are 18-20 and are 50 pounds or more overweight, scarfing Chik fil a, guzzling soda, and sitting four hours at a time, taking the elevator to go from first to second floor, etc.
They sit, play on the technology, and eat.
When their metabolism decreases, they'll be 200/250+ in no time, which isn't grotesquely obese, but obese none the less.
I live in the USA and can eat as I damn well please. You health nuts gonna die too.
Boutons, you ever have bad knees? I had one in high school and rehabbed. My bro in law had four surgeries. It matters, especially when you're already big from playing football.
My bro in law knows why he's fat. Because to gain a scholarship he bulk lifted and ate ridiculous amounts of food for heavier center of gravity. Add knee injuries that makes exercise difficult, a decreasing metabolism, and already carrying extra weight, and it's damn hard to make real progress.
I know because I've tried to lose my own extra pounds. No sooner I lose 10 pounds, the next month I'm working 60 hours a week, eating later, not hiking as much and it's back.
i guess working 60 hours per week is the norm in this country these days, i don't see how you guys do it. i got dem bankers hours :smokin
Don't work it all the time. 40-45 typical, but throw in photographing a wedding, or that week when I have three or four classes have assignments that converge in a week, then yeah, gotta get shit done.Quote:
Originally Posted by m>s
Weight loss is 90% diet right DUNCANownsKOBEQuote:
Originally Posted by JMarkJohns
IMO exercise is important when it comes to making sure you reshape your body and don't have that skinny-fat physique but I agree with your overall point. I've lost like 20 pounds since moving to Texas because I make enough money to fill my fridge with fruits and vegetables so that's what I eat whenever I'm hungry. There isn't a magic formula to losing weight, it's just bullshit how expensive the right diet is in 'Murica.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
yeah just ask those ukranian farmers amiriteQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
While exercise is important a 340 pound man should easily lose weight just eating at the maintenance level of a 210 pound manQuote:
Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE
formula is simple:
consume more calories than you burn to gain weight
burn more calories than you consume to lose weight
or consume as many as you burn in order to maintain the same weight
if you're eating normal healthy portions you'll lose weight regardless of exercise if you're that big
Yeah like I said I agree. As the post above says, there's nothing complicated about weight loss. If you burn more calories than you consume (and a 340 lbs. body probably burns 2500+ calories daily w/o any exercise) you lose weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
And also the other thing about exercise is what JMark said, fat people lifting weights and doing no cardio. All I do when I exercise is cardio/body weight exercises/plyo.
In my case, yep, because I was fit to begin with, remained active, and still participate in strenuous activities such as hiking at 8000+ feet, if I curbed pizza, pasta, red meat, I'd lose weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
But I'm not someone who's been fat since high school for sport. I've known George since his junior year in college, and he's always been big, strong, with bad knees.
My point isn't to justify. My dad even tried to get him to do weight watchers with him. George has just never known the benefits of "fit" and while he tries to eat right, stay active, honestly, it seems there's only so much it does. Now, if he didn't have fucked up knees, or got Gastric, then sure, but he's that guy when you first meet you ask if he played football.
I'm just asking, where's the line?
I get the question or statement made.
Yeah, I mostly do cardio with hikes, and weight training toting my heavy-ass camera shit around.Quote:
Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE
I get the food argument. Like I said, he has a lifetime of bad habits aiding him staying obese. When you're at your peak as a scholarship athlete, where your primary job is working out, you have to eat tons to gain weight.
No he doesn't eat as much, but like quitting anything, radical changes are hard.
good place to put this
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...ors_picks=true