http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...edium=facebook
should be entertaining tbh
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...edium=facebook
should be entertaining tbh
post some transcript if you can, thx
This debate is bound to devolve quickly into a "you have to believe" claim and poof, God recedes to the next gap.
That works for both sides. This is going to be an idiot debate with no winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Being that this is in Kentucky they'll probably burn Nye at the stake after he wins.
No it doesn't, unless you don't understand evolution. Since there is ample evidence that evolution is occurring and has occurred, you don't need belief to accept it. You just need to be a rational mind, since "beyond a reasonable doubt" is how proof is offered. Creationism is unfalsifiable so there's no way to provide evidence for it. It relies on you taking a worldview that doesn't allow for natural selection and to do that you have to deny things you know to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by I. Hustle
LOL okQuote:
Originally Posted by DMC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjF0uf4H7w8Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
It's amusing to see people comment on the theory of evolution who don't really understand it because they accepted early on that it was another belief.
^rofl. perfect video clip
There is no evidence for evolution. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.
:stirpot:
Bill Nye? Is there a douchier atheist in existence?
Well here is where it gets tricky. I am not saying that evolution isn't possible I just disagree with how we are taught evolution. Just believe that this came from that even though there are no transitional fossils whatsoever and some of the fossils that we do have are only fragments and we imagine what the animal could have looked like.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
You evolved from this but this part stayed the same and only a select group changed.
Besides, everyone knows we came from a chimp and a pig getting it on.
How is it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
In before RandomGuy.
The chump Photoshop thread needs more lol emoticons! You're wasting time here!Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
:wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
http://blakesnow.com/wp-content/uplo...3/10/url-2.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
sweet. a worldwide pissing contest. the amount of trolling by everyone tonight will reach amazing levels.
Creationist: (insert retarded Jeebotard bullshit here)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Evolutionist: I win.
/transcript
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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
If people are going to debate evolution, why not also topics like:
1) Is the sky blue?
2) Is the Earth round?
3) Do things fall downward on Earth?
4) Do we orbit the Sun?
5) Do we need water to survive?
6) Did we go to the moon?
you asking for a mouse YouTube festQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
There are plenty transitional fossils, but you won't find one that's half bird and half fish, flying fish notwithstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by I. Hustle
I didn't realize Lamar and Chloe spawned us all.
Is water real?Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I think creationism vs. evolution also represents the different attitudes towards black people, since them niggas are a clear evidence for "evolution". On the other hand, creationism arbitrarily denies the glaring fact that niggas also belong in the same family of humanity, along with whites, yellows and others.
lol @ Jeebus
debate is already hilarious
Bill Nye going HAM already
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Originally Posted by Leetonidas
:lmao
lol was just about to post that. He kinda just went in on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Why the alternative design church is not in dat debate ?
Ken Ham is already shitting on himself :lol his answer to the first audience question is fucking retardedQuote:
Originally Posted by Suspect
Such as? And tell me - how was the world created?Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
:lol bill nye tries to act all smart and attack creationalism
"Bill, how were the atoms created that caused the big bang"
bill: uh, well, uh, that's the mystery :lmao
:lmao going off-topic
"imagine if someone from your own state found out where matter came from"
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ence-pictures/Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
[email protected] "Well Bill.. There's a book that explains where matter comes from. And in the beginning of that book it says, God created the Earth. And that's the only thing that makes sense." :lmao
Okay... and how were those "fish" created in the first place? The water it stays in? The oxygen necessary for an ocean/water/river to even be in existence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Go read up on it, I'm not here to debate with jeebotards tbh listen to Nye explain it.
And rofl at these questions being asked by the theists to Nye. All of their answers for the questions would be "GAWD DID IT" :lmao
This is getting fucking ridiculous, I knew it would devolve into this faggot creationist just saying "well the bible says..." as every fucking answer or rebuttal
I'm trying but he's saying "that's the mystery"Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Bunch of faggots arguing with each other that gets nobody anywhere.
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Originally Posted by thunderup
You can't claim victory because Bill Nye can't explain every thing in the entire universe. It's amazing how much science has explained and revealed to us but things that no human being can comprehend yet are attributed to god and swallowed hole. Now tell me where god came from or stfu. We still have 80% of the planet being magic and fairy tales, how the fuck do you expect human kind to answers every mystery in the universe when only .00001% of people are even trying to really figure it out?Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
All I'm saying is that the big bang theory is just as much as a theory as God... except it actually gives an explanation on how it occurred.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Have you sought the scientific reason as to why you're such a faggot? Brain chemistry I bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
:lolthunderup going in rawQuote:
Originally Posted by thunderup
Nope. Scientific theory is not a guess, it is backed up by evidence and tests. Gravity is a theory too, you really gonna jump off a building and think you're gonna fly because it's only a "theory?" :lol go look up the cosmic microwave background and the viewing of light from billions of light years away, there's a lot more evidence of the big bang then for god, which is noneQuote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Who here has observed evolution? tbh
Going HAM on Ham :lol
Who here has observed god? tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
guess he don't exist :)
okay then, point being both take faith to believe inQuote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
look i can post random links that people think somehow prove a point
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...igion-culture/
http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines...of-eden-found/
See that sculpture, which seems more logical, that it created itself from a pile of rocks or that it was created by a sculptor?
Trolling :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
really hope bill brings up something about zeitgeist of egyptian times since Jesus was just brought up. Roast him bill plz :cry
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Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
:lmao did you even read that Nat Geo link?
And lol at the weekly world news. I know you're trying to prove a point but c'mon bro at least find a legit news site
actual funny post from a butthurt christian tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
tbh it'd be from a solid piece of whatever it's chiseled from not a pile of rocks :lol good trolling though
Atoms did not exist at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
And no scientist with an ounce of sense is going to explain conditions BEFORE the Big Bang. Because we don't know.And therein lies the crux of the matter. In science you are allowed to say we have no idea, or based on observable phenomena we think this is the way it works. Test, test again and look for more evidence. If we ever find hominid fossils the same age as dinosaur fossils science has some explaining to do. Ideas can be refuted based on good evidence reviewed thoroughly.
People like you just make shit up. So how did insects arise? were they created specially on their own? Poof and God made them? In science that explanation is called supernatural I give up, so I will make something up.
Damn, we should just give up trying to solve some of the mysteries of cancer, since you could come and perform a healing dance around the patients bed...
You don't understand what science can and cannot do. End of story. So because science cannot explain the grand variety of the living world for you, give us your theory please.
Both Ham and Nye are idiots, tbh.
Your entire story above basically is stating nothing other than "it's okay for evolutionists to have no clue on how the world came about, but the idea of god is wrong"Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
and that "healing dance" claim pretty much summed up your entire argument - stupid and insultive
Further, not knowing how the Big Bang came to occur has absolutely nothing to do with the evolution of living things. Because we can't explain what led to the Big Bang we throw out evolution?
Thats totally ignorant and lacks any kind of common sense.
Tbh I don't really see the point of this debate, viewers supporting either side are not going to be swayed to the opposition
Where did I state the idea of God is wrong smartass? Science can't deal with the supernatural, ie things that cannot be studied using science.Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
So now you tell me how you think we arrived at the great variety of life we see today since it's clearly not evolution?
What do you have that is better and more predictive?
Give be up the goods, the board awaits your insight.
:lmao Believing in a magical invisible sky man and his fairy tales that all contradict each other
No but others looking in can see the difference between two very human endeavors used to explain the universe and the rules it might follow. Add philosophy and people can truly understand our struggle to understandQuote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
its all good for me. I would hope people can understand the difference between our methods.
Ken said the bible has the origin of everything but whats the origin of the bible?
The Riverside Church
January 19, 1936
My dear Dr. Einstein,
We have brought up the question: Do scientists pray? in our Sunday school class. It began by asking whether we could believe in both science and religion. We are writing to scientists and other important men, to try and have our own question answered.
We will feel greatly honored if you will answer our question: Do scientists pray, and what do they pray for?
We are in the sixth grade, Miss Ellis's class.
Respectfully yours,
Phyllis
----------------------
January 24, 1936
Dear Phyllis,
I will attempt to reply to your question as simply as I can. Here is my answer:
Scientists believe that every occurrence, including the affairs of human beings, is due to the laws of nature. Therefore a scientist cannot be inclined to believe that the course of events can be influenced by prayer, that is, by a supernaturally manifested wish.
However, we must concede that our actual knowledge of these forces is imperfect, so that in the end the belief in the existence of a final, ultimate spirit rests on a kind of faith. Such belief remains widespread even with the current achievements in science.
But also, everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.
With cordial greetings,
your A. Einstein
Cosmological redshift too son. RIP conservation of energy. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
So continuing in this same vein Phyllis, I highly doubt evolution is goal directed, and that the penultimate outcome is man. But I certainly could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiChrist
Wow, N0 LyF3 ScRuB is a fucking idiot. He's using the same old, tired, ignorant responses that theist apologists have been using for years. He first stupidly asks where the evidence for evolution is, as if he is incapable of using Google for five seconds. Then he completely changes the topic to abiogenesis and The Big Bang, as if those two are somehow synonymous with evolution. Then he uses the idiotic "The Big Bang is just a theory" excuse that many theists who have no understanding of what "scientific theory" actually means usually use.
And robdiaz is a moron. Nobody should take him seriously after his absolutely pathetic performance in previous evolution threads. This guy knows absolute shit about evolution, yet tries to talk shit about it. The worst part isn't him being an wilfully ignorant moron; it's his complete unwillingness to even try to defend his belief in an invisible sky daddeh. He'll throw around emoticon after emoticon when other people actually defend something he disagrees with, but when pressed to explain what he believes and why, he changes the topic.
Wow, is this debate really 2 hours, 45 minutes long like the video link from the npr page says? Bill should have had this shit won 5 minutes in.
Creationism, a euphemism for stupidity imo, is nothing but a gimmick to get people like Ham money from the woefully ignorant hordes.
CROFL this creationist nigga really just said you can't observe the past while showing a graphic of the Big Bang and the development to galaxies and shit? :rollin
What the fuck does he think you're doing when you look up at Orion in the night sky?
God, you're so stupid if you don't believe in evolution. Pun intended.
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Originally Posted by Woo Bum-kon
Both hardline theists and atheists are assholes. Agnosticism is where it's at, tbh.
Are you an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist?Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeGuy
non-committal I see :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SupremeGuy
So keeping with that logic, who created God?Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
Who created the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
I'm committed to wanting evidence before I make a decision. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
We're assuming God did.Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Don't be a pussy here. Answer my question.
LOL Blake calling another man a pussy. How's your wife? tbh
No one created God. God doesn't have siblings, parents, etc. God is where it all begins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
:lmaoWoo Bum-kon, its like clockwork, asshurt atheist.
Excellent, insightful rebuttal by robdiaz. I expect nothing less. The only thing missing is an emoticon.
Are you an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist?Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeGuy
Why can't one just replace "God" with "the universe" in your explanation?Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Who or... what do we think using observable phenomena?Quote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Its up to you, to assign a who. A God or Gods...? What?
BTW
Your theory on how the diversity of life we see on this planet came to be? Since it's clearly not evolution for you.
The board continues to ponder your silence. Give it up. Please.
that contradicts the robdiaz logic of the sculptureQuote:
Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Ponder my silence? Bitch, I've been taking biology courses for 3 years now. I know all about evolution, it's theories, and also what the supposed theories are and actual facts are regarding animals and the point of where they began to exist - or at least what is known this far.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Just because I refuse to argue about pointless bullshit that's not gonna alter your opinion on a message board does not mean I am uneducated or am unknowledgable on the subject.
That's the problem with atheists. Just because we don't believe in what you do we are 'stupid', 'ignorant', etc.
It's annoying when religious folks expect a rational person to answer impossible questions. Science doesn't have a clear answer to how we got here but at least they're trying to find it. People of faith are fine with their immature storybook answers and are too lazy and brainwashed to do their own research. Sin 6 days a week and learn the "truth" on Sunday.
The debate is stupid because no one ever asks the right question. Also because creationists tend to be stupid and think they have to defend religion for some reason, a evolutionists have to be disingenuous and concatenate evolution as a process and Evolution as an "atheist" theory.