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Raja Bell just confirmed that YES Manu called their agent and asked why he allowed Bell to go the Suns. He said Manu doesn't like the way he(Bell) plays D against him. Bell was/is being interviewed after the press conf to announce his signing.
Here is a link to the stream; it'll probably be mentioned again through out the show (on until 6pm local time).
http://ccri.eonstreams.com/ccri_az_phoenix_KGME_am.asf
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Your point being?
everyone here said it was a joke from the writer who posted it way back when.
That and Manu won't be as happy to play the Suns ;-)
Moot point forum.
so this is confirmned by Raja Bell?
not by either of the guys who were actually o n the phone with each other?
:rolleyes
Manu is a pussy
If Manu's splits against the Jazz are any indicator, we have nothing to worry about at all.
Sunfans need some hope after losing JJ.
Covered in another thread. Manu doesn't like the constant flagrant fouls.
Check out where Bell rates on Rosenbaum's statistical analysis of SG's defensively.
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or it means Manu will concentrate that much harder.
I thought manu did say that
some fans act like spur players are above something like that
I do not
Many fans on this board acted like that. There were several threads re: the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
How it pans out is anyones guess, but the fact is Manu does not like to play against Raja. Can't wait for the first game between the two.
:hat
Is Matrix still screaming "No, no, not Bowen" in his sleep?
http://danrosenbaum.blogspot.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Rosenbaum
Not surprised, you don't think much of Manu anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by ducks
How is that a fact????Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
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Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
It's gonna be just like always... Manu's gonna own him whether he gets a flagrant foul or not, and the spurs are gonna win.
What's the point of this thread?
To try to make your team look good by saying you might have Ginobili stopper, even when that doesn't exist.
Hey, if Manu doesn't like shooting .611 from the field, .556 from the arc and scoring 21 points in 29 minutes, he can hate it all he wants.Quote:
but the fact is Manu does not like to play against Raja.
Bell will foul out. He is more goon than great defender.
who really cares if Manu said it or not, Bell cant guard him for sh!t without being dirty
fact is PHX got older with the Bell and Thomas additions
Nash will also be one year older
unless coach Pornstash changes his ways the suns will be burnt out by the time the playoffs come around, if they can stay healthy
Then someone needs to take out Bell. Cm'on Spurs, let's not have another Mailman-Admiral fiasco.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
threating to not sign or use another agent just because you don't want another client of your agent to sign somewhere shoudl be banned in the next CBA this is not professonal at all
imagen if you are a big player liek wade, tim, wade, and you said I will change agents if you have devin brown go to denver have him only go to boston seems unfair
Honestly, if Manu called his agent to actually complain about the Bell singing then he IS a pussy.
If he did call I honestly believe it was one of Manu's common jokes. If not, then I'm quite ashamed of him... :depressed
Like has already been noted...the best game Manu had against the Jazz last season was the one Bell started against him. He may not like Bell but it's not like has bad games against him.
And Manu needs to fire his agent for giving Bell that information. He needs to let others know that agent tells clients of private conversations with other clients. I am sure there is a potential lawsuit in there as well against that agent.
How do you know you have a dumbass agent? When he favors a low paid client over a high paid one in breaking confidentiality. IF all this is true that guy clearly is working in Bell's interest at the direct expense of Manu...Manu needs to give him the full time opportunity to represent Bell.
K, your link points to a crappy Phoenix radio which I only listened to 1 minute of it and doesn't say anything about the topic.
Yes, Manu is gonna bother calling his agent after hearing the news about Raja Bell :lmao :lmao :elephant
I'll beleive that when Phoenix makes it out of the West in the playoffs or when D'antony opens a water bottle w/out any help :lol
Bell the Manu stopper :lol
Who gives a fuck if he did or did not.
IU am not just talking about manuQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA
I am talking about all spurs players
they are not all saints
I think very highly of manu
I just think he is good for 30 minutes a game
nothing wrong with that
he plays very well for those minutes
and is more effective in those minutes then most at 40 minutes a game
Oh yeah "Raja Bell just confirmed ...."Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
Listen AH just keep telling yourself, "We're just one player away from ...."
Question, "Where is JJ?" Let see, just keep repeating "We're just one player away from ...."
:fro :fro :fro
The story is not true, even if Raja Bell says it is, becuase unless Manu was joking, it makes no sense. What difference does it make to Manu whether he is gaurded by Raja Bell of the Jazz, or Raja Bell of the Suns? He will have to face him either way. Why would he care that Bell signed with the Suns?
Hey, there is a little more than an hour left in the show. They said they were going to replay the interview. Probably during the 5 o'clock rush hour.
Keep telling yourself "We're just one player away ...."Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
:fro :fro :fro
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Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
Same here. I can't wait to watch the Spurs own the Suns, just like they did this past season.
I'm right in the heart of Suns Country, so I've got firsthand knowledge that Phoenix's fans are delusional. They've got no center. They're losing a guy who posted 17 ppg, 5 rpg, and shot 48% from 3-point land. Kurt Thomas doesn't have the speed to facilitate the run-and-gun style that made them successful last year. Nevertheless, they're drinking Sarver's Kool-Aid and believe they'll contend for a championship. Get real. The only thing the Suns are contending for is a 4-seed in the Playoffs.
Sorry Billscarnage, and any other Suns fans, but that one-trick pony has been taken out to pasture.
hey now, Phx was one game away.....from being swept! :lol
Seriously, without Johnson they not be as effective as last year. Amare will have an MVP type season but Nash is a year older and Bell, who is a good defender, is not the scorer JJ is. I see more halfcourt sets and less running...which is not to their advantage.
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Originally Posted by 190 Octane
Oh, so who in the Pacific will take the 1-3 seed??? In fact who in any other division, sans the Spurs, is capable of taking the 1-3 seed? If Houston wins the SW guess where the Spurs go.. That's right #4.
Keep dreamin bub.
that is a big if, bro. But you do have a point....while I think that the Suns will not be as good as they were this year, they IMO are still the best in their division and in the NW its still Seattle but still IMO not as good as this year.
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Originally Posted by ducks
Nobody has something to relieve duck's brain cramp?
The NW division is a crap shoot, but Denver will likely come out of there. Seattle if they can pull thier heads out of their ass. I really don't see the Suns worse than #2. Losing JoJo will alter their style, but not that much. Jjax, Bell or Fins (if he comes) will still be able to shoot the three just fine. And it the Suns only need three to run the break in their style.
There's a long way to go until camp, but I will still go against popular opinion and say the Suns will be better next season. Probably not record wise, but they'll be a better team. They caught lightning in a bottle this past year.
Well, Houston won't win the division so that's a moot point. They'll be a very good, but they still have no bench whatsoever, and Stromile Swift is certainly not in the same league as Tim Duncan.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
The Suns are still the best team in the Pacific, I'll admit that. But the division won't be the cakewalk it was this past season. The Lakers will be much better. The Clippers will be better. The Warriors - who beat the Suns twice - are going to turn heads.
I can admit when I'm wrong. Phoenix won't be a four-seed because they'll win the division, but they'll be the fourth best team in the conference. San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas should be better, and Denver and Memphis could give Phoenix a run for its money.
When it comes to winning a championship, the only ones who can "keep dreamin'" are the Phoenix Suns ;)
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Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
It was a joke, an inside joke between Manu and his agent. It was just blown out of proportion by the Suns fans hopefuls that will be praying they can make it back to the Western Conference Finals again and atleast take the Spurs to 6 games.
Bell will become Manu's bitch next season. End of fucking story.
The sad thing for the Suns is that Bell and Kurt Thomas won't be enough to take them past the Spurs or any team that plays defence. Why? Because of their own style, too much fastbreak, too little defence, and D'Antoni, Nash and Stoudamire don't look like they are going to change it.
SA, likely...Quote:
Originally Posted by 190 Octane
Houston, only team that really scares me...
Dallas, yeah right....
Denver, Suns should still be able to beat them in 7.
Memphis, ok dunno what yer smoking but that team/franchise is in complete disarray.
Warriors will be good, especially w/Ike, but they'll probably be 5 or 6 seed.
Keep telling yerself that. Amare has stated that his main goal this offseason is to work on his defense. They may or may not put a fill scheme D in, but Bell and KT are defensive minded players. Meaning when some one tries to score they'll try to stop them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
Was it a joke, or is Manu really frustrated. Maybe now that Bell has said something the reporter who started the whole thing will ask Manu's side of the story. Be sure to post a link when it happens. Otherwise you keep telling yourself it's a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Foolery
Go sniff some boxscores and tell me Manu is really scared of Bell.
Go ask Manu or his agent if he is. Like i say... can't wait til the first game between the two.
Exactly...for the Spurs win and Manu going for 38 pts, on 10/12 FG.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2123876
Ginobili, who has the same agent as Bell, Herb Rudoy, complained to Rudoy when he learned that his defensive nemesis was going to a team that San Antonio met in the Western Conference finals.
"It was funny," Bell said. "You know, Manu's a competitor, and I do a good job, I'd like to say, on him, but he's a tough guard for me. So it's just a respect level. It's cool to hear somebody thinks you're that way, especially being the All-Star that he is, so it was flattering."
Now they're all saying it.. Weeeeee.
He isn't.Quote:
Go ask Manu or his agent if he is.
RIF.
Tell me if Bell defended Manu well based on the times he guarded him.
He did not.
We saw the games.
Memphis is in complete disarray? They've added Eddie Jones, who contributes mid-teens scoring, a healthy 5 or 6 rebounds per game, and veteran leadership. They shipped out malcontent Bonzi Wells and added Bobby Jackson, a real spark plug. They lost Jason Williams and his 5:2 assists to turnovers ratio. Stromile Swift's departure is a negative, but aside from that, they're looking pretty solid. Perhaps not on the Suns level, but still capable of giving them a run for their money.
As far as "Dallas..yeah right," this year's Mavs team gave the Johnson-less Suns all they wanted in the Conference semis, tying that series up 2-2. It also took 2 overtimes and a career performance from Nash to avoid going behind 3-2, so I wouldn't be so quick to brush them off.
I bet $100 Manu did not say it or at the most it was a joke. It's not his style.
And believe me, Billy boy, he is not scared of Raja. That's for sure.
The play is called:Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
"The need to sell tickets when your team looked like favourites back in March, but got their asses kicked by the Spurs in the playoffs".
The Spurs did the same thing with Brent Barry after the Hedo disaster in the playoffs. It turned out that the replacement for Hedo was right there for the Spurs (Manu).
It's amazing the length ducks goes to put Manu down.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
That's right, Johnson LESS. Yet the Suns still won.Quote:
Originally Posted by 190 Octane
MAYBE if Diaper has a break out season. And MAYBE if Dirk stops yelling at teammates. And MAYBE if Dirk doesn't mind being the last head of the "3-headed" monster. And MAYBE if Terry has an all-star season. And MAYBE if they want to play defense.
Dallas will be 3rd in the division.
Right, my point was Dallas gave the Suns a good series without Johnson, whom they won't have this season. Dismissing a team that went 2-3 against Phoenix under those circumstances as a "yeah right" doesn't quite fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
Maybe if they play defense...ironic coming from a Suns fan. Stoudemire might be working on his defense, and I believe he is, as he's one of the best players in the league. But he should really try to talk the MVP into joining him. Nash got lit up to the tune of 20 ppg by Tony Parker in the Conference Finals. Jason Terry averaged 17 a game against Nash, five more than his season average.
I agree with that last point. Dallas likely will finish third in the division, but that should be enough to make them fourth best team in the conference.
I'll give you another post to correct this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by 190 Octane
:drunk
Why are Phoenix fans cocky? They have no reason to be. They think Bell on Manu is a good thing, they are delusional.
So Manu is unhappy that a defender that consistently roughs him up and commits flagrant fouls and such is going to one of the Spurs so called "rivals". Tim Duncan was probably feeling the same when Karl Malone joined the Lakers. So what? I'm sure Manu isn't worried about Raja defending him successfully, because we have all seen the stats Manu puts up againt Raja. I'm sure Manu isn't worried about having to defend Bell either, because we all know offensively he is average. So there is no problem regarding Manu being worried about facing him, Manu would have a much tougher time being efficient and playing his own game against other Phoenix swingmen, because Bell sure as hell does nothing to stop him.
Phoenix fans think that having Raja supposedly "annoy" and "rough up" Manu is going to somehow work to there advantage? Um, check out what happened in the playoffs when Denver and Seattle were consistently dropping Manu on the ground. Yeah, didn't really work out to well for them, and if Phoenix think they can do that with there team of softies and one rough player, they are kidding themselves.
Phoenix fans think Raja Bell is going to turn them into a Top 7-8 defensive team. Idiots.
Cute. Come back when you have something relevant to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
Come back when you know your facts and don't make a fool of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by 190 Octane
No, it's the fact that so many SPURS fans on this board laughed and said it was a joke and Manu would NEVER do anything like that. Now it's fact and they're all trying to come up with excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by MI21
No Suns fan that i know of ever said that. Stop assuming. He will make them better defensively in general. Not Detroit good, but better.Quote:
Originally Posted by MI21
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You mean a "fact" like some dork Phoenix rider taking a joke out of context and turning it into some sort of Manu being afraid post?Quote:
Come back when you know your facts and don't make a fool of yourself.
Shit, if anything I would say this guarantees the Spurs will not lose to Phoenix again as long as Raja and Manu play for their respective teams.
True or false, Manu will be out to make this myth and Raja Bell's jock strap shredded to pieces.
Agreed.
Hilarious a phoenix hack, and phoenix homer are latching on to this.
Phoenix gets worse this offseason but yet, they think they are better.
Classic Phoenix...
Rider? Like a cowboy or something. And it was a SanAnt WRITER that started the whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
:lmao That's funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I hope that would be true as it'll make a great matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
TPark, your posts should be nulled. You shouldn't even be here to begin with. Waffle boy
I think we need to have a little wager about Manu vs the Great Raja. How many points and FG% do you say the Manu stopper is going to hold Ginobili to BillsCarnage?
Likely? :lol You stupid fuck. Too much of a fucking homer to even put over the team that nearly swept you by one game and went on to win a title.Quote:
SA, likely...
I guess Bell and Thomas... oh and Diaw just put you guys over the top? :lol
Get the fuck off this board and back to the shit ponds that is any Suns forum.
Yeah, it's totally out of the realm of possibility, as evidence by the Spurs-Suns matchup in the playoffs.Quote:
That's funny
rider/writer. Sorry, didn't mean to offend the spelling police. I was laughing too hard your spankfest over a quote taken out of context.
I know the original quote came from our paper, but like I said - some Phoenix hack took it out of context.
On second thought, you can have your lame ass quote. I'll take the championships. Deal?
Damn, life must suck to be a Suns fan. All you guys have to hang your hat on is taking quotes out of context. We're coming off our third river parade, and you are stuck beating off to some weak smack from your local rag of a paper.
Yay, go suns. :lol
Ask again when the season is closer.. No way we'll remember it now. In fact ask before the first game between the two teams.
And if Bell puts up the same #'s as Manu will it be a draw?
If Bell puts up the same #'s as Manu I'll eat my hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
Arrogant Homerism at it's best.. Always to be found on a Spurs board. And Mavs too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWriter
Trust me I'll be remembering this thread.
If Bell puts up the same numbers as Manu we'll call it a landslide victory and monumental upset for the Suns.
Oh shut the fuck up you loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
Seek some anger management.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWriter
Spelling police? :lmao It's completely the wrong use of the word. You should have learned that in 1st grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
It was confirmed by one of the three involved, the radio station and ESPN. So far NO ONE from Manu's side has denied it. If they ever do, please post a link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
The whoopin was for all of the homers here who said it was a joke. Now it's been verified by three SEPERAT parties.
:drunk
Raja Bell put up the same number as Manu Ginobili??
And this guy accuses of usbeing homers?!?!? RU KIDDING ME??
Hey Carnage, Ive been here since day 1 i can do and leave and stay whenever I want to, so STFU SON.
SEPERATEQuote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
So, for shits and giggles, if Bell "holds" Manu to his career avg of 12pts and scores 12, it's a landslide for Bell?Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
Right on.
How is it being verified by ESPN, make it not a joke by Ginobili?Quote:
The whoopin was for all of the homers here who said it was a joke. Now it's been verified by three SEPERAT parties
Your are truely a moron.
Don't you have some boy band website to post on?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWriter
A landslide and a first.
I still rmember fondly when Bell played for the Mavs and was getting bitch slapped by the Spurs in the playoffs, him bringing the ball up court, Parker pressuring him and Bell swinging a vicious elbow missing Parkers's nose by about a millimeter. Crawford nailed him for a flagrant and he commenced to whine. Bell has a long history of cheap shoting Spurs.
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Originally Posted by T Park
Your posts are nulled Waffle boy!
touche' Oh spelling police.. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
The writer said the Expres-News reported that Manu called.
Get the Express-News article that states that you bald fuck. Then you'll be right.
Fucking fudge packer.
Can we GiG this clown?
Says who??Quote:
Your posts are nulled Waffle boy!
Cause your just some loser who trolls here.
BillsCarnage is Mouse.
Mouse is Lame.
Lame is GiG.
GiG is Banned.
On one side there will be a player flopping at every chance. On the other will be a player trying to foul hard on every chance. Going to be a fun chess game to watch. The flopper vs the fouler.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
Jealousy is not becoming of you troll.Quote:
n one side there will be a player flopping at every chance
And you're the biggest waffler, bandwagoner, schizo, etc on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
You're like the turd that won't flush.
Mouse is in house, pretending to be BillsCarnage but in true life he feels tarnished. His name has been run though the mud so many times Paris Hilton sent him an email and told him to cheer up.
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And you're the biggest waffler, bandwagoner, schizo, etc on this board.
You're like the turd that won't flush
God get some new material.
Your like Carrot Top with the fuckin props.
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Originally Posted by TheWriter
thats almost good enough to put in a sig.
yada yada yada... When you run out of anything intelligible to say, not that you really had any, you revert to this. Com'on chumps don't waste my time with this jr high bs.
Not to add more fuel to the fire, BUT the agent was at the Bell press conf. BC mentions it WITH the agent there. Think he'd lie about something like that WITH the agent standing in the room?? I doubt it.
mms://phxsuns.wmod.llnwd.net/a205/o2/bell_050803.wmv
So to recap, BOTH Bell and Rudoy, the agent, confirmed Manu called to whine.
Conspiracy theory or joke.. It's now been proven TRUE. case closed.
Bill, come up with the ExpressNews article dingbat.
Mouse needs to leave his house and explore the world outside his room.
i looked, but it's not listed. But i don't need to prove it existed as there were plenty of posts re: the whole issue.
Though, at this point it doesn't matter who started it as it's been confirmed by Bell and the Rudoy that Manu whinned.
Mouse, the writer said the Express News reported it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
That;s the smoking gun.
Explain or quote Bell, what exactly did he say. Can you do that Mouse?
I don't get it. How is it that you can expect Bell to have a better defensive performance in the Suns, when even Utah was better defensively than the Suns (with Bell) and they still couldn't stop Manu?? I'm intrigued.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillsCarnage
keep thinkin i'm mouse all you want.. whatever yanks yer chain.
Second, go back and read this thread. I've posed all the links and quotes.. WATCH the freakin video link listed not too far above. Geez you really are a Spurs fan ain't ya.