2015 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

Why so hung up on imaginary stars? Football was considered a Top 15 dual-threat QB and a Top 50 player in the state. Mariota was considered a Top 15 dual-threat QB and the 2nd best player out of Hawaii. Not sure why you are acting like they came out of nowhere bc they were only 'three stars'.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Why so hung up on imaginary stars? Football was considered a Top 15 dual-threat QB and a Top 50 player in the state. Mariota was considered a Top 15 dual-threat QB and the 2nd best player out of Hawaii. Not sure why you are acting like they came out of nowhere bc they were only 'three stars'.

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not sure why you're acting like you or anyone else knew he was gonna be better than average, much less the best player in football.

it's not like his offer list was that great.

Lol imaginary stars

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Originally Posted by Blake

not sure why you're acting like you or anyone else knew he was gonna be better than average, much less the best player in football.

it's not like his offer list was that great.

Lol imaginary stars

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I did but I was probably biased bc he was a local guy. IIRC The Reckoning has proof here on ST that he called it. So there's one person, and I'm sure there's plenty of others...most likely the ones that took the time to watch his film instead of coming to conclusions based on stars. :lol

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Originally Posted by FkLA

I did but I was probably biased bc he was a local guy. IIRC The Reckoning has proof here on ST that he called it. So there's one person, and I'm sure there's plenty of others...most likely the ones that took the time to watch his film instead of coming to conclusions based on stars. :lol

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I'm pretty sure the schools that passed on him didn't care much about his stars either.

Congrats to the two of you for "calling it". Lol.

You think schools passed on him because a pay site only gave him 3 stars?

Besides since when is a measly three star having a moderate college career considered a reach? You'd think only 4 or 5 stars see the field the way you make it sound. :lol

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Originally Posted by Blake

It's a damn shame that Michael Brewer was injured for Lake Travis against Tivy or you would have gotten to see what a 4 star QB recruit looks like.

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but muh stars :cry

I was at that Tivy/Lake Travis game in 2010 and it was awesome.

If Brewer was hurt, he was still ridiculous. 250 in the air and 190 on the ground.

Only 15 of Tivy's yards weren't from Manziel.

Non-moronic perspective for a moment: Locksley was the second QB offered by Texas (after Gentry), and we pursued him at QB throughout. He didn't pass for a lot of yards/TDs because he was in a shotgun Wing-T offense. He played WR at the Under-Armour game because that's where FSU was going to put him. People think he can play WR — and he can — because he's a phenomenal athlete, not because he can't play QB.

Aggies are grasping at anything they can right now. None of our recruits are going to qualify; we can't recruit a QB so we're taking WRs; Kris Boyd's fax never came and Malik never enrolled so they can go to A&M; Merrick's dad was paying recruits to come to Texas (until they suddenly didn't come). They're scared and they're lashing out.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

Locksley had 6 passing touchdowns and 14 rushing touchdowns his senior year in high school. Locksley passed for a total of 950 yards.

Manziel passed for 3,559 yards with 44 passing touchdowns and 5 interceptions his senior year in HS. He also ran for 1,695 yards for 30 touchdowns putting him at 74 total touchdowns his senior year.

I would say there is a little bit of a difference there. :lmao

Now Locksley is Manziel :lol. Locksley is a fine athlete as I have said but he isn't a QB. Good luck with that.

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Yes there's no statistical comparison but I'm just letting you know that the shoe is on the other foot now. Texas was recruiting Manziel as a wideout and Aggies wanted him as QB. Now that Texas is recruiting a QB, you say he's a wideout. Why are you even concerned? Are you scared or something? I say give him a chance if the coaches really think he'll be that good. If the kid wants to play QB and thinks he can do it, then let him try out.

Also I watched Manziel in high school at Tivy and it was the Manziel show. He was their entire team. Locksley had more of a supporting cast IMO.

If we throw high school stats out the window for a second and just look at it from a pure development standpoint just for lolz....locksley has nearly identical specs as bridgewater out of high school.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

You think schools passed on him because a pay site only gave him 3 stars?

Besides since when is a measly three star having a moderate college career considered a reach? You'd think only 4 or 5 stars see the field the way you make it sound. :lol

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No they passed on him because they were looking at the same thing that rivals and scout were looking at.

I never said that second sentence.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

but muh stars :cry

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even five star guys get hurt bruh. Why is this hard for you? Aren't you an engineer?

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Originally Posted by Blake

even five star guys get hurt bruh. Why is this hard for you? Aren't you an engineer?

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Are you saying Brewer would've been the better player if he had stayed healthy?

Your posts suggests the way you evaluate players is to blindly go off of how many stars the sites gives a guy. There's really no reason why you should've thought Brewer was a sure bet to be better than Football. They were both great HS players.

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Are you saying Brewer would've been the better player if he had stayed healthy?

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No. Like the rest, it's an educated guess on potential. Do you understand how stars work?

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Your posts suggests the way you evaluate players is to blindly go off of how many stars the sites gives a guy. There's really no reason why you should've thought Brewer was a sure bet to be better than Football. They were both great HS players.

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lol I was just talking shit, tbh. And Brewer actually got dropped down to 3 stars tbh.

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Originally Posted by the chronic

"If" Locksley has the work ethic he can compete to be a starting QB with 1-2 years of development - watch his film, it's not like RSJ being QB at Sealy where it is just best athlete at QB. The problem is Texas needs a guy that can compete for starting job as true frosh and the prospect that can come in at QB in year one and contribute like Murray or Allen is very rare. No scenario do I see Locksley being ready to step in and play on day 1 like Murray could.

Will be interesting to watch A&M QB situation if Murray passes on MLB as Allen looked good at end of year and as good as Murray is it will be hard to pass a guy like that with a year head start and two spring sessions under their belt. I agree with some of the A&M posters I just don't see him passing Allen as good of a player as he is it is just too much of a competitive disadvantage and Allen is no slouch.

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i prefer allen, of course. but it is nice to have murray as the back up, assuming he does not go MLB.

More like a crapshoot aside from the extremely obvious, can't miss guys IMO. The star system is retarded and meant for dumb fucks that don't watch hudls.

If a HS guy puts up crazy production vs quality competition and has multiple upper-tier P5 offers like Manziel did, then he has just as much potential as anyone.

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Originally Posted by Blake

the point is there was no assumption anywhere that Johnny was even going to have a moderate college football career.......let alone play QB.

Pointing out Johnny's high school stats is irrelevant to what scouts believed his potential was.

If you were to put Johnny in this class, very few would believe he'd be better than Kai.

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that tells me how much we overrate the scouts. i saw manziel play in high school and he was better than a three star at that time but his lack of size and disrespect the SA greater has in terms of the football talent here affected his rating. the same can be said of justin stockton. i still, to this day, have not seen any high school football player in person with the speed stockton has, and yet he was only a three star as well. had stockton or manziel gone to a houston school or dallas area school they would have been rated at four stars.

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Originally Posted by rjv

that tells me how much we overrate the scouts. i saw manziel play in high school and he was better than a three star at that time but his lack of size and disrespect the SA greater has in terms of the football talent here affected his rating.

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You're right about that. A lot of people knew it. And by that time, it felt like Mack was going strictly off of what Rivals thought which is probably why he passed him up.

This doesn't even have anything to do with Locksley.

I just hate the star guy in recruiting threads tbh.

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Originally Posted by TFloss32

Coach Rumph to Florida. Their guy from the Raiders fell through:

http://www.si.com/college-football/2...ch-chris-rumph

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:lol waiting til the recruits are signed to announce this news. I guess lying to/misleading recruits isn't apart of the core values.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

:lol waiting til the recruits are signed to announce this news. I guess lying to/misleading recruits isn't apart of the core values.

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And Chavis was telling recruits' parents that he was staying at LSU days before he left to go cash checks at Aggy for a few years. So much for Aggy not lying or tolerating those who do.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

:lol waiting til the recruits are signed to announce this news. I guess lying to/misleading recruits isn't apart of the core values.

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He didn't take the job.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

:lol waiting til the recruits are signed to announce this news. I guess lying to/misleading recruits isn't apart of the core values.

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He's was merely offered the job and he's not taking it. The reports jumped the gun.

[QUOTEhttp://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/item...rrow-10x10.png=Clipper Nation;7817841]And Chavis was telling recruits' parents that he was staying at LSU days before he left to go cashhttp://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/item...rrow-10x10.png checks at Aggy for a few years. So much for Aggy not lying or tolerating those who do.[/QUOTE]

:lmao

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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation

And Chavis was telling recruits' parents that he was staying at LSU days before he left to go cash checks at Aggy for a few years. So much for Aggy not lying or tolerating those who do.

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