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Did they not think Dallas was going to bring intensity in their own building?!
I don't know if it was a choke, we were clutch as fuck in the last minute. It was shitty fouls and turnovers that fucked us over...
I hate that POS Blair. I love how he never shows up for us in the playoffs, but has no problem giving his all for the Mavs. He can suck it.
No you're right, that last 30 seconds were clutch but the last 5 minutes as a whole was a HUGE choke job. They were up and really had control of the game until Ellis took over. So many of his shots wouldn't have happened with good dQuote:
Originally Posted by dg7md
Not really. The Mavs played well but the difference was made in some costly turnovers and really bullshit officiating in the 4th. I thought we'd lose Game 6 by a lot more, honestly.
Hard to believe the Spurs got beat by Blair. While not as painful as last year's choke job, this is certainly in the neighborhood.
Not a choke the spurs played hard just that they ended up falling short. Losing doesn't equal choking every time.
Not a choke job...game was fucking rigged as a son of a bitch. Gotta give props to Blair for bringing it though.
Ginobili's entry pass to Kawhi made me want to smash my bookcase
Spurs were up what 7? Or 5? With 5 to go? Nothing but and one fouls and stupid turnovers caused the spurs to lose their lead and momentum. The refs were pretty one sided but the spurs looked like they had control and just lost itQuote:
Originally Posted by Horry Hipcheck
A choke to my understanding is when a team has a lead with only a few minutes to go, seems to have control, and loses it with stupid plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by daslicer
Not a 6 level chokejob but a chokejob nonetheless tbh. Very disappointing effort and execution.
Choke
No. 6 was a chokejob.
Blair was always a fan favorite for us, its revisionist to say he never showed up for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose
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Originally Posted by AFBlue
I'm referring to his playoff performance for us, in particular...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!
:lol Spurs fans so used to chokejobs that only Game 6 level type of chokejobs count nowadays I guess tbh....
I cant hate on him. Dude seems like he gives his heart for his teamQuote:
Originally Posted by dallasmaverickslose
Pop getting carpet burns
Just not for us of course... The team he played the first 5 (I think?) years of his career...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!
that shitty possession with parker towards the end, good god..
Really. I mean, I don't see how it's not? An opportunity to close out a series, have a fairly solid lead with single digit minutes left in the game, had momentum for the whole 3rd quarter, several players (splitter, Duncan, and later Parker) having big games, Splitter played hard nosed and played like everything we WISH he would. All that and they still lost. I kinda think that qualifies as a choke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
Not even in the same Galaxy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
Funny but it hurts tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
Yup, Spurs had numerous opportunities to pull away throughout the 2nd half. Just a really pitiful performance. But the fluke run at the end is going to make Spurfan think that they didn't choke hard this game :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
Not like we were up by 20
Watch Kawhi choke here and spark the Mavs run to lose the game. Epic choke job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a8c-XhVEL4
Yea those two fluke threes??? Too little too late, I rolled my eyes as each one haphazardly fell through the netQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
lmao and we still cant win
Carter with the "watching Ginobili tape" goods :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jenks
That's way beyond Ginobili. That's the spirit of Robert Horry.Quote:
Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
lol, blame it on Parker when he carried the team offensively down the stretch. Hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by noles1983
Pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
spurs couldnt get stops in the 4th
mavs win, not sure it was a chokejob, mavs just played better in the 4th
No, that's CP3 level shit there.Quote:
Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
Even the whole stare down kawhi, like he should've in in the throat, was channeling cp3Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
jus hope the refs don't do this in game7....spurs got robbedQuote:
Originally Posted by Horry Hipcheck
spurs better stop the mavs to the ground in game 7....no close game bs.....put these fools in the gutter already
The Spurs defense cant even stop Blair. That's about as pathetic as it gets.
SmhQuote:
Originally Posted by Jenks
Spurs couldn't get a stop in the first, or box out Blair all game long. But the fourth with the refs was a joke. No choke.Quote:
Originally Posted by siraulo23
we have to take game 7 out of the ref's hands so we have to be up by 20 at the end of the game to win....
Green could go 10 for 10 to start the game he'll get limited minutes still and the ball won't touch his hands down the stretch.. It's been like that this whole series, not just Green though, anyone of our players that requires transition or ball movement to get there shot off.
Sadly this is flat out TRUE... That game 6 is out of this galaxy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
Pretty mad we didn't just end it tonight... About half way through the 4th I thought we had them.. But then YUP we choked. Per par.
we don't deserve to win Tbh..
we have looked like absolute shit these playoffs, nowhere near contender level.. Spurs will Win on Sunday but I won't be happy or cheer about it.. We should've ended this fluke series tonight. I HATE seeing Blair yelling and cheering that's what bothers me the most lol
What were they up five points with five minutes to play? Hardly a choke job.
I find it hilarious how everyone thinks this was a chokejob. This was a regular playoff loss...this shit happens. So when any team is leading in the 4th and loses, its a choke job????
Also, some people are saying this is comparable to game 6 last year. Those people are mentally challenged.
If we win Sunday you are going to be happy, stop frontin on that end of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs_Be_Beastin'
Oh it doesn't matter who wins this. Neither team plays a lick of defense so they are just pretending to be contenders.
Just like Blazers/Roxs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Expert
It's going to be Thunder/Heat unless someone gets injured. That's what the league wants and the players on other teams seem to be ok with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by robdiaz2191
Up 5 with 28 seconds left an a finals win at hand is a different realm, period! That is a TOUGH LOSS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs7794
Parker loses the ball to Blair, Leonard misses a jumper. Nah, that's not clutch. They hit a couple of meaningless nothing to lose three's and then when the game was on the line, Patty throws up an airball.Quote:
Originally Posted by dg7md
:cry
I don't consider it an epic choke job. Mavs had to rape one of the Spurs' wives and shoot their dog before they'd be whistled for a foul. Meanwhile, if a Spur even so much as brushed a Mav it was a foul. It was pretty obviously biased officiating. NBA wants to set a record with first-round Game 7s, tbh.
What was the free throw disparity again?Quote:
Originally Posted by EIC
The measure is not how many were called, but how many were not. All the Mavs did was foul; only some were called.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
it would still be embarrassing if you lose to an 8th seed again. no way you can spin that one. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cagney
Exactly fucking morons always wanna be so simple and say "well who shot more fts" How bout the carter flop I really believe he'll be fined for that. One of the worst calls ever and a huge turning point.Quote:
Originally Posted by EIC
And how do you spin the bucks last 30 yrs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
Dude you are a Bucks fan, you can't even begin to talk about embarassing since you guys are not even close to existing to most fans. THE SPURS playoff teams choking later on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Your teams existence. BUCKS :lol:lol:lol:rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
A Bucks fan does not exist to us out here, he can't spin it they are just a joke of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horse
It would be embarrassing. Fortunately for you, it's not something Milwaukee will ever be in position to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
:lmao you're so easy to troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cagney
Yes and you are a Bucks fan! SIR! SIR! :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
Probably another LA fan ashamed of his teams name now so he trolls under another team TBH. TBH.
Yeah, and the Spurs were fouling and only some were called. This isn't why they lost the game. The FT shooting was the reason it was a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by EIC
It was really the defense in that 1st quarter, IMO... you just can't do things like that at this stage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
The defense in the fourth was just as appalling. Monta Ellis was knifing through the lane without breaking a sweat. Dejuan Blair was just abusing the Spurs in the paint down the stretch. I think they'll find a way to beat Dallas but I'm hesitant to make a prediction beyond game 7 because the overall defense looks too slow and lethargic to make a deep playoff run and I don't think the offense is consistent enough to carry them to number 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
If we don't get some production off that supporting cast, we're done... what a letdown that second unit has been... Tim also looks like he needs a vacation ASAP... let's hope we can break through that game 7, and hope for the best...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
http://notsportscenter.com/wp-conten...arter-Flop.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
I wouldn't say it was a choke job, rather a missed opportunity. I think the Spurs were in the driver's seat in the 3rd quarter. There were a couple of possibilities to blow up the lead to, let's say, something like ten points. Unfortunately, the Spurs didn't capitalize (Manu couldn't knock down some good looks from downtown and stuff like that). They could have had more of a cushion going into the last quarter. That wouldn't have guaranteed a win, of course, but still.
Down the stretch, as has been the case in a number of games this series, the offense became too stagnant, there wasn't enough good movement with and off the ball. Throw in a couple of costly TOs and questionable defense against Ellis, not to mention clutch FT shooting by the Mavs (who had been struggling from the line earlier on), and you have several key reasons for losing this game.
Overall, I think the Spurs have been rather disappointing in this series. Their defense hasn't been up to the task on a consistent basis, and offensively, they have been struggling getting role players involved. Parker going MIA too often hasn't helped as well, of course.
Hats off to Dallas, though. They have been dealing with their defenive shortcomings as best as they possibly could. And they are a good and experienced team offensively. Neither Ellis nor Nowitzki might be having the series of their lives, but both have been good enough while numerous role players have stepped up in various games (Carter, Harris, Blair, Dalembert).
I'd call it a standard Spurs semi-choke, having seen this movie before. They win their own must-win game, then go on the road and forget their intensity until its too late. Am I wrong? Before the game I said this was 50/50: Spurs often let down in these situations, Dallas in a do-or-die at home (and they have some good talent obviously), Manu was due for a bad game, after having a really good stretch. Final point diff was... 2. We got game 7.
With that miracle 3 and that flop, Vince Carter singlehandedly flipped this series. Spurs have zero chance to win Game 7.
8, tbh
This is precisely what I meant when I started this thread. It's not game 6. But it's extremely frustrating nonetheless. The spurs choked away several things be they large or small on the scale: 4th quarter lead - BIIIIIIG game from Splitter - series lead - a chance to close out a team that actually has no business taking them to game 7Quote:
Originally Posted by ManuTastic
yet the Spurs had more FT attempts than the MavsQuote:
Originally Posted by sananspursfan21
Splitter had 12 FT attempts. Dirk had zero.
Cause all that pussy does is shoot jumpers. He shoves,elbows creates contact them cries he doesnt get the call.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZB 512
The Spurs have good defensive players if Pop is willing to play them. Let me just say you can no longer give Pop a pass if game 7 doesn't end well. I don't think there's any other team that was top 3 in offensive/defensive efficiency that went out in the first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by quentin_compson
The difference in the game was the offensive rebounds and 2nd shot attempts. The Mavs shot worse, had more turnovers, had fewer FT attempts, hit about 10 fewer FTs, had fewer blocks, fewer assists, fewer steals. In fact, if not for the offensive boards, the series is over. Dallas had 12 more shot attempts, which means Spurs had live ball turnovers more often and Dallas had more put backs instead of kick outs from the offensive boards. 12 more shots at 50% is 12 more points. It's hard to make those points up, and yet the Spurs lost by 2.
The good Spurs teams didn't make the silly mistakes this one makes. They didn't foul 3pt shooters at the end of quarters, they didn't shoot early when it's clock management time, they didn't throw full court passes to be picked off in transition... and they didn't give up a shit ton of offensive boards. This team is a hybrid team, an offensive minded team that puts on a defensive mask. Their off season acquisitions are almost always offensively strong players who play questionable defense. Danny Green is a decent defender, but was acquired for his 3pt shooting. Same with Marco, but he cannot defend a lick. Matt Bonner cannot defend. Jeff Ayers cannot defend or shoot, he's just 6 fouls to give. Baynes is clunky and tries to defend but isn't NBA level. Kawhi is a good defender, working on his offense but he hasn't committed mentally to being aggressive. Right now it's a show, much like Matt's fake hustle on defense and pretending to fight for a rebound he almost never gets.
What makes the team tough to beat is that they can score the ball and they have Tim in the paint, and they have enough perimeter defense to bother shooters. They normally rotate well and don't rely on talent to recover from a missed assignment. When they begin to slack off their rotations, they lack the ability to make up for it with talent or speed. Teams like Dallas can take advantage of that because they are playing to win, and the Spurs are playing to not lose. Dallas has nothing to lose, they've already surpassed their expectations, however SA is approaching it like it's a surgery and they have to rethink every possession and even force the ball into a bad spot if that's how the called play starts. They stopped thinking on the court, and that could be Pop's fault.
Odds favor Spurs to win. Zero chance is a bit emo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TampaDude
Exactly. Manu hosed this one up, not Tony.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFBlue