green leonard or tony?
i want green and patty on him the whole game.
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green leonard or tony?
i want green and patty on him the whole game.
Danny Green....
He would destroy Parker and Patty tbh. I'm not sure Kawhi has the foot speed.
Danny covered him very well in the regular season, tbh..
Problem is that Matthews and Batum would both have an advantage over Parker, if Pop chooses to cover Lillard with Green..
Danny Green.
Danny is obviously the best defender we have. That would probably put Parker on Matthews. Stotts would probably give a lot of looks to Matthews in the post (something he did a lot against HOU) which I'm fine with if the alternative is Lillard/Aldridge tbh.
Pop will put marco on him, tbh...
Green
gotta be green, perfect assignment for him.
For most part of the games in regular season it was Danny /Manu on Matthews and Tony on Lillard, just in the 4th we could see Danny guarding Lillard, and sure, he covered him very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
Green and Kawhi. There's no other great pg/sg(barring a jordanesque performance from scrubs) for either of our 2 elite defenders to guard so they'll be focused on Lillard. The real problem is LA, I'm afraid he might torch our bigs.
Last time was basically the first time we slowed him down. Patty surprised a lotta folk as I think TP was out. If Patty holds him on the big stage he'll be earning that pay day.
Green on Lillard
Tony on Matthews
Leonard on Batum
Splitter on Aldridge
Duncan on Lopez
Sure, Matthews has a size advantage on Tony, but if Portland is going to jettison their entire offensive scheme to have Matthews beat us in the post, i'm totally fine with that :lol
A good thing about playing Portland is that they have virtually no bench. It's essentially just Mo Williams, and thats somebody else Tony can match up with reasonably well on the defensive end.
I think it'll be TP to start. Green is obviously the best option, but I think they would take advantage of the mismatch if deployed over long stretches of the game. Besides, TP usually "gets up" when facing another superstar PG. I think he checks Lillard and does so with aggression.
While I do think that they need to mix up looks, I think you are spot on in the general sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
I actually think Pop will put Danny on Lillard and Kawhi on Wes... Batum is a worse 3 point shooter than Wes. Actually Batum 3P% has dropped to 30% in these playoffs.
Don't think Batum would try to post up Tony, that's not his game. I would suspect they would try to run LMA closer to the perimeter and lob alley-oops for Nic, but I don't think they could get away with it for too long.
I certainly hope that isn't the case. Batum can actually create off the dribble and finish, Matthews is by and large a shooter, which is easier to deal with. Having Kawhi on Wes would be a criminal waste of his defensive abilityQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Green.
Batum is still dependent on a solid screen or a hand-off to score effectively. Over half of his baskets are assisted, and over 90% of his 3s have been assisted this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
He's also dangerous on the boards, and that's something else Kawhi will have to help with. Penetration will have to be largely handled by our bigs. The problem I see in this series is LMA being stationed a bit outside, drawing one of our bigs out and leaving the rim unprotected a bit. But we'll see.
Don't underestimate Thomas Robinson, it's possible he could very well be the next "Blair" for this series.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Matthews has a post game, while Batum doesn't. I agree that's the switch if Green checks Lillard, but I think Pop starts out playing it straight up. I'd like to see Kawhi on Mathews regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
What % of Matthews' shots were assisted compared to Batum's? I dont have those figures tbh. I agree about the rebounding aspect though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
As for Aldridge, I think we're going to play it very similarly to Dallas. Throw Tiago on him and treat him like Dirk. Duncan staying home on Lopez will ensure having somebody to protect the rim, since I doubt Robin will be venturing too far from the paint
Yeah, I'd much rather have TP guard Matthews than Batum tbh. I doubt TP would give much effort defensively against another Frenchie.
He doesn't have Blair's skill or craftiness around the basket. He has a crazy motor, but it doesn't usually translate to in-game production. Not too worried about him tbqh.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
Benchinelly tbh
About the same as Batum on FG overall (55%), 95% on 3 pointers.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Basketball-reference.com now breaks those numbers down for each player.
Not sure why the lovefest for Batum. Matthews has proven to be a much tougher matchup for the Spurs...size, strength and shooting ability give the Spurs fits. Batum has the length to get his shot off, but I think the rest of his game is pretty weak tbqh.
yeah so if they're basically both evenly assisted, i'd rather have TP on the shorter guy and Kawhi on the better rebounderQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
and nice, i never noticed the %assist feature on reference. good lookin out
Regular season minute distribution could be scary in this series.
RS against the Blazers
Beli 30 mpg
Leonard 30 mpg
Danny 26 mpg
Fortunately, it's not gonna happen...
Shorter guy is heavier and has a post game. Would rather him on the tall guy that won't take advantage of him tbqh.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Matthews is actually a very, very average (40%) shooter from anywhere but near the rim (63%), just going by the numbers. The thing is, if he can back up and post up a shorter guy, you're basically playing to his strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Batum is more versatile, but he actually does not really have a post game. I guess Batum would settle for longer jumpers, and he's a notch better from 10-16 (44%) than Wes, but I think the Spurs would love that.
Putting TP on Batum is basically conceding an open 3 pointer on most possessions with Batum's height and length. He's also the superior ball handler and passer compared to Matthews which will prove problematic if the Spurs have to send help tbh....
According to reference, less than 40% of Batum's shots against Houston were assisted in round 1, while 70% of Matthews' field goals were assisted.
again, Matthews having a post game isn't worrying me. if their offense featuring Lillard/Aldridge/Batum is going to be reduced to a Wes Matthews post show, i'd be thrilled
I understand that rationale, but Batum has shot 36% from 3 during the season, 30% in these playoffs... I'm not sure you don't want him taking that kind of percentage shot as opposed to LMA taking them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
well, I was going with the season average, since playing against Harden gives you an instant offensive bonus, tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
and putting Tony on Batum would be any better than the harden matchup? in fact, Harden was mostly on Matthews while Parsons was on batumQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
It'll definitely be interesting. TP is underrated defensively in the post where as he's been very up and down guarding the perimeter all season.
I think the Blazers will play a lot of small ball with LMA at the 5 so I assume Parker will see a lot of time on Mo anyways....
Harden was mostly on nobody, tbh... and Houston's defense outside of Dwight and that homeless looking Beverly wasn't much to write home about.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Portland penetrated almost at will against Houston. The Spurs will have to do a solid job between the perimeter and bigs to counter that.
jokes aside, you can't pin Batum's offensive numbers on Harden when he wasn't matched up against him. I think Green will be huge in this series, as i'm not too worried about Portland's perimeter creating outside of LollardQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I'm just going with the larger sample size... I didn't like Houston (or Portland, for that matter) defense at all in that series. Outside a few 'clutch' steals at the end, the whole thing was fairly carefree, I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
It's all good. Can't wait till Tuesday, tbh
Portland would kill us during the regular season with that double screen opening up the wing 3. Once a game or two goes by I have confidence that a lot of that type shit will get cleaned up and the Blazers do not have Spoelstra or Carlisle scheming. Spurs still execute like champs.
I just can't imagine the Spurs losing a game because Wes Matthews posts up too much. One reason why is because it's not easy for a guard to post up for a long time if both teams are playing two bigs. Too much congestion, too easy to help while staying near your man. Another reason is that using a lot of possessions on Matthews seems fine to me, as it makes Aldridge and Lillard spectators. Even if the possessions are productive, it takes Portland's better players out of the flow of offense. Also, how many points can Matthews seriously score on Parker? He's not getting 40 points by posting up. I could see him getting 12-16 while shooting 60 percent, but that's just something you live with if Lillard is struggling as a result.
The only issue with it is that it would potentially wear Parker out more than simply standing at the arc contesting Batum's shots. Playing in the post is exhausting, especially to smaller players. Doing so for an extended period of time can get to Tony's legs, even if he's playing good defense.
very well put. basically what i've been saying, but much more eloquently and well thought out :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Man I hate that SOB!Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Green will stop the Lillard slurpfest
if he actually does, i can imagine they will spin it as fatigue since its his first playoff runQuote:
Originally Posted by BanditHiro
...and continue to act like Leonard is some defensive savant while Green's just a guy to warms the seat before Manu gets into the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
Green will get Lillard duty when Parker is on the bench at times. Theyll switch, IE last year with Parker on Curry. Ultimately, in the fourth quarter, Parker will hide on Matthews who really mostly camps on the three point line. Leonard will be deemed to cheat off Batum and double Aldridge who will have Splitter or Diaw mostly. It comes down to simply as this. If the Spurs bring effort and defensive concentration and defensive concentration that they brought in games 4, 5, and 7, they can win this series. If they defend like games 3 and 6, theyll lose. Its really that simple. They will get their points as Portland was the second worst defensive team coming into the series. Also, the offensive sets? almost identical to Dallas as Stotts was the offensive coordinator in Dallas for a few years before getting hired in Portland. They use Aldridge the same, Lillard runs the offense like Harris and Calderon. So there wont be much of a huge learning curve entering the series. Another key will be foul trouble. If Green and Leonard can stay on the floor, the Spurs should be fine again.
Lillard is a beast but he doesnt have the combination of explosiveness and speed like ellis. I think green does a better job on him than he did on monta
i don't see tony losing against loliard tbh, i think we should stick to players guarding their own counterpart. They are going to block a lot anyway so we'll have to switch non stop, i don't see much 1-1 anyway.