He probably is the person most responsible for Pop's CoY award this year, though. Those two victories in Oakland with short-handed rosters really elevated Pop's mystique.
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He probably is the person most responsible for Pop's CoY award this year, though. Those two victories in Oakland with short-handed rosters really elevated Pop's mystique.
Fucking stupid firing. The warriors were the third best team in the west. They coulda stood a chance against bron and co, if the clipps and spurs had slipped up. Dont let the pacers or lakers sign "that man."
Mama, there goes that job....
something fishy was going on in GS to lose 2 coaches like that
seems like Jackson has yet to get over himself
Kerr or D'Antoni could do some good work with the pieces that are in place
So, a guy in Jackson continues to clash with management even after they stood by him after that embarrassing adultery story broke in 2012. Seems to me that you should go above and beyond to mesh with everyone in that situation vs being confrontational or off-putting. Especially when they are the ones that gave you a chance when they probably shouldn't have & put a pretty stacked team around you.
The front office were obviously Luciferians.
It's not a shocking development. He's done well for Golden State but not excellent, and I think most of the success can simply be attributed to a vastly improved roster.
As a manager of players he's done very well, clearly his players love him and play hard for him (mostly ; Bogut I know doesn't like Jackson because he is an atheist and Jackson is a religious zealot). Management is only one quality a coach needs to have however. You also need some tactical acumen and in this sense he is an absolute idiot. That Golden State team is stacked with offensive talent yet they somehow are an awful offensive team. On top of that, he's clashed with his staff and management time and again. If it was purely down to immediate results he was reasonably successful but I doubt he could have taken GS a lot further.
Harsh environment, the NBA. Perhaps those above thought he was becoming too much of a friend with Curry and others, rather than being the coach, which possibly cost them.
Be happy you are not a fan of GSW and the dysfunction that continually goes on there. Complain all you want about the spurs mishaps but at least you don't deal with that garbage out west
they are moving to san francisco ..jackson does not fit...
I honestly think this could be an underrated aspect. It struck me as odd that we was giving full-on sermons with group prayers before playoff games last year. I kept thinking, what if one of those guys isn't religious at all? I've had friends make the point to me that those players can just choose not to participate, but it's a team of 15 guys. If I was on that team and my head coach was leading all this stuff, I'd consider it quasi-mandatory. If his ownership didn't share the same faith, I can definitely see it being a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
I don't think anyone took his fake sermon act too seriously considering he was exposed for cheating on his wife with a stripper...In fact, most of the guys playing probably liked him because they could relate to that. Paul George really wants him as a coach tbh..
With Bogut, they win that series more than half the time. Clippers are also a better team than the Nuggets team they beat in Round 1 last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
So tough. Very solid Clippers take them in 7 without big bogey man in the paint. With bogey man they win series. With LA, Knicks etc and other to come needing big time coaches this is tough times to be trying to find a Pop or Doc or Carlisle.
Basically, unless you are Pop, you are replaceable so don't be annoying.
D'Antoni with the Splash Bros makes perfect sense. Wonder if its already in place?
Jackson's real strength was his ability to inspire and motivate. Even if they replace him with a far better x and o coach, it'll be a tougher act to follow than most realize.
Lee already played for Mike D didn't he? What is their relationship like?Quote:
Originally Posted by ManuTastic
I think it's a good move. No reason to waste Curry with a substandard coach.
They definitely have to make a correct hire though.
Which white coaches are available?
I don't think Jackson should have been fired if the reason was due to the results of the Warriors season, tbh..they took the Clippers to 7 and probably would have won the series had Bogut played, considering DeAndre Jordan was arguably the best Clipper in the series..
However, management doesn't like him and he's been clashing with assistants..Mark Jackson, like Kevin McHale, is a player's coach with limited tactical skills..
The Warriors were 4th in the NBA in isolation plays this season and 5th in overall 1-on-1 offense..usually that's a sign of either a lack of offensive talent on a roster or lack of creativity/schematic ability by the coach..the Warriors certainly aren't lacking in talent, tbh..
Looking at the other ISO-oriented teams in the league, this season(there were 6 teams that ran at least 10% of their offense through isolation plays):
New York
New Orleans
Brooklyn
Golden State
Houston
Oklahoma City
Everybody already knows about Scott Brooks, so I won't touch that..
Mike Woodson is known for his ISO-centric offenses and he just got fired..Montyball is probably done next season, tbh..Jason Kidd is a rookie coach with a limited roster, I'll give him that..
McHale and Jackson are actually pretty similar, player's coaches that aren't known for tactical ability..however, I'll give McHale an excuse, Harden is the most ISO-oriented player in the NBA and they lack playmakers..
The Warriors have a team with elite shooters, great passers at virtually every position, and a superstar PG that thrives in the pick&roll..how can you possibly justify running a system based entirely on ISO and 1-on-1 basketball?..running 10% of your offense in isolation and 21% of your offense through 1-on-1 plays with a roster that has Curry(best shooter in the NBA and good passer), Iguodala(great passer for his position), Thompson(elite shooter), Lee(very good passer for his position) and Bogut(great passer for his position) doesn't make any sense IMO..
I'm not surprised. Playing devil's advocate here, let's look at the Warriors team besides their head coach. Look at the roster. . .Stephen Curry, easily one of the best PGs in the NBA. Klay Thompson, excellent young player who's a fantastic shooter. Andrew Bogut, one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. David Lee, one of the best offensive bigs in the NBA.
Is this a team you think SHOULDN'T be making the playoffs or winning around 50 games with just an average head coach? Yeah, exactly.
The Warriors may not have made the playoffs in 15 years until recently but this team they have now is let's be honest, by far their best team in 15 years too. I'm not going out on a limb here by saying Mark Jackson will never lead a team to the Finals and win a title. I can even go as far as to guarantee he never will. He isn't that good of a coach so it's an easy prediction to make.
The Warriors are a great team who have a good future if their key guys stick around. Being real here, Mark Jackson was very lucky to step into that situation right as they were getting David Lee, Bogut, Thompson, and Curry entering him prime. Jackson is getting way too much credit for the team's improvement imo.
I'm sad for Jacksons successor. Players loved Jackson and the new man will be kind of the evil stepmother.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasamohT
The FO is full of moronos, who will never win.
I hope Curry demands a trade.
The Warriors management is full of idiots. I believe the owner used to be a Celtics part owner. After buying the Warriors, he moved his son into the front office. Then, he brought over an assistant coach from the Celitcs, Erman, and Scalabrine, another Celtic. Jackson, rightfully, got rid of both of those guys.
Basically, Lacob wants the Warriors to be run by people affiliated with the Celtics. He's a moron and a micromanager. The Warriors are perpetually losers and just got rid of the guy who finally had a Warriors team that played defense and made back-to-back playoffs for the first time in something like 30 years.
By the way, the Warriors lineup is fairly shitty. Curry is awesome, and Iggy is a good player. But Bogut is always hurt, Thompson is overrated, and David Lee is a terrible stat-stuffer. I hope GSW goes back to being the laughing stock they've always been.
Not saying Jackson is a great coach (he always was more of a sports movie pre game speach preacher), but I doubt another coach will have more success with this team.
Problem is: They can't do much with the roster right now (only trading Barnes) as they lack picks and trade assets (can't trade Curry/Thompson) so they might as well go for the coaching change.
Because they sacrificed their future in trading these picks, they need to win now (not a good timing with this Western Conference).