Re: Anyone Else Notice How The Referees Called The 2nd Half?
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DMC
I didn't notice it in anyone's favor. I noticed a lot of offensive fouls were called that are normally not called, like Matthews and Parker on the transition push offs, a couple on some illegal screens that I couldn't make out even on replay. I don't know what happened to be honest. If anything, I could see it allowing for more advertising time. It did get strange for about 5 minutes in the 3rd.
I think the NBA refs have too much control over the flow of the game. It's the only sport I am aware of, other than boxing, where the ref can interfere with the contest so much.
If you can watch the final 5:50 of the 3rd quarter. There was, i think, 5 straight possessions were Portland got to the line.
That Parker call was just blatant. They were trying to keep the game close. Refs never give defensive players the benefit of the doubt in transition when they are moving while trying to draw a charge. They waived off a 3pt play because Parker bumped into Mathews, but L.A. jumped into Splitter (who had his arms raised and still didn't make any contact) and got FTs.
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Yeah, there were some pretty BS fouls that LMA was getting even with perfect defense. I can't imagine the amount of calls they'll be getting in portland
One thing that I'm still trying to figure out is how does every time Westbrook goes for a jumper, he leans on the defender and always gets the call. Maybe I'm missing something here; what exactly the defender is supposed to do in this situation?
Re: Anyone Else Notice How The Referees Called The 2nd Half?
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jARS mEsH sEt
I mean, net biased reffing in favor of one team is never overt because there are bad calls both ways. My eyeball test suggested that the Blazers benefited from a +4 bullshit FTA advantage compared to the spurs. There were more than 2 bad calls (2 FTA per call) in favor of the blazers, but for every bad call > 2 in favor of the blazers, there was a bad call in favor of the spurs which cancels out, hence a net rating of +4 FTA.
However, I stopped paying close attention after half time so that figure is probably not entirely accurate.
The thing is when two teams are so closely matched, a +4 bullshit FTA either way often exceeds the margin of victory which is disturbing, to say the least.
I agree with everything you say up until the closely matched part.
If they are going to call ticky tack shit like that then it favors the Spurs really because you have to be able to body up on and be physical with Parker if you want to contain him. Lillard and Aldridge are jump shooters so it doesn't help them nearly as much and if they start calling Aldridge for the forearms he throws to get separation then he is fucked.
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cd021
If you can watch the final 5:50 of the 3rd quarter. There was, i think, 5 straight possessions were Portland got to the line.
That Parker call was just blatant. They were trying to keep the game close. Refs never give defensive players the benefit of the doubt in transition when they are moving while trying to draw a charge. They waived off a 3pt play because Parker bumped into Mathews, but L.A. jumped into Splitter (who had his arms raised and still didn't make any contact) and got FTs.
No no no...you don't get it. He is an unbiased basketball connoisseur that has the ultimate opinion on nba officiating. You're too much of a homer to understand that.
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I can sense two early foul calls on Tiago coming either tonight or in the first game on the road ... book it!
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FuzzyLumpkins
I agree with everything you say up until the closely matched part.
If they are going to call ticky tack shit like that then it favors the Spurs really because you have to be able to body up on and be physical with Parker if you want to contain him. Lillard and Aldridge are jump shooters so it doesn't help them nearly as much and if they start calling Aldridge for the forearms he throws to get separation then he is fucked.
Well I'm not sure about that. Lillard gets into the lane pretty easily. I thought he missed a couple of chip shots against us in game 1 despite getting to the rim, although Duncan and/or Splitter's presence probably has a lot to do with that. Aldridge's bread and butter is his jump shot, sure, but Lillard is more of a dynamic player.
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UZER
No no no...you don't get it. He is an unbiased basketball connoisseur that has the ultimate opinion on nba officiating. You're too much of a homer to understand that.
just because i like the Spurs doesn't mean i'm biased against officials. I know what it a legit foul and whats a sketchy foul. at least 3 of those 5 fouls shouldn't have been called in a playoff game. They were consistently blowing the whistle when their was minimal contact and sending Portland to the line.
I noticed similar stretches of officiating in other series that favored a team that was down by 10+ points and were on the verge of getting blown out.
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cd021
just because i like the Spurs doesn't mean i'm biased against officials. I know what it a legit foul and whats a sketchy foul. at least 3 of those 5 fouls shouldn't have been called in a playoff game. They were consistently blowing the whistle when their was minimal contact and sending Portland to the line.
I noticed similar stretches of officiating in other series that favored a team that was down by 10+ points and were on the verge of getting blown out.
Chill homie, I was being sarcastic.
DMC thinks his shit don't ever stink.
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Clipper Nation
MethKC wasn't in an 0-1 hole last series, and Miami set an NBA record for least team FTA in a seven-game series last June :lol
Not to put a wrench in this theory, but sometimes a lack of calls is far better than a ton of calls..
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jARS mEsH sEt
Well I'm not sure about that. Lillard gets into the lane pretty easily. I thought he missed a couple of chip shots against us in game 1 despite getting to the rim, although Duncan and/or Splitter's presence probably has a lot to do with that. Aldridge's bread and butter is his jump shot, sure, but Lillard is more of a dynamic player.
Lillard is not a good finisher as evidenced by his shot chart.
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FuzzyLumpkins
Oh interesting. Yeah the stats pretty much back up what you say. I've been hanging around/trolling the blazers forum over at sportstwo.com too much. :lmao
Most blazerfans were painting this picture of Lillard being some sort of paint fiend. They strongly implied that the shots he missed last night were aberrations.
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jARS mEsH sEt
Oh interesting. Yeah the stats pretty much back up what you say. I've been hanging around/trolling the blazers forum over at sportstwo.com too much. :lmao
Most blazerfans were painting this picture of Lillard being some sort of paint fiend. They strongly implied that the shots he missed last night were aberrations.
That shot chart is perfect for trolling then.
Stay thirsty my friend.
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The Blazers were called for 25 personal fouls. The Spurs were called for 21 personal fouls. So I agree, the officiating definitely favored the Spurs.
Re: Anyone Else Notice How The Referees Called The 2nd Half?
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DMC
But Tiago didn't foul out. Wes did. Aldridge had 5 fouls. If you watch the game without team bias, you'll see the refs tightened down big time after a couple hard fouls in transition, probably to keep guys from trying to injure each other. Also, when coaches call refs over to point something out, the ref likely listens and focuses on that until teams make adjustments.
I did see this and understand your point.
But IMHO Tiago actually didn't bang on Aldredge as hard in the second half as he did in the first half and still picked up tickytac fouls anyway even though he was fronting the same way.
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UZER
Chill homie, I was being sarcastic.
DMC thinks his shit don't ever stink.
I initially thought you were. Its kind of hard to tell sometimes, online.
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Officiating has been much better than game 1 so far through 3 quarters..
