ECF: #1 Indiana Pacers vs #2 Miami Heat playoff series thread

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

MIA is not some consistently dominant team. No one in the NBA is. All these teams if they play well can beat each other. INDY, despite the free fall, can be a damn good team. Getting this game one win would be massive for them. Just like Mavs v Spurs, INDY loves playing MIA.

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Agreed. You're talking about a team that's trying to get the their 4th consecutive finals tbh. James and Wade were in the summer Olympics too. They've looked vulnerable all year - if they win the title I'd be supremely impressed.

wtf, they couldn't even wait til next season for Mark Jackson to return. :bang:bang:bang:bang

LOL Scola

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Antic is a stretch-five, so he could guard Hibbert and space him. Then, they had a legitimate four in Millsap who needed to be accounted for. The Heat are only playing with one big, so even if they guard/space Hibbert, they have no one to match up with West.

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That's what I said, I think..I said it's the same strategy, but ATL had Antic instead of having to play another small to space the floor with Millsap.

Indy isn't winning because they're doing the things they're good at. Hill is just making fluke 3s. If Hibbert and West were dominating, then that might mean something.

George Hill damn

Scola with the James Harden "hurry up and score so we can get the ball back on offense" defense

Jackson sounds almost as uncomfortable calling this game as we do listening to his stupid ass

But Bosh on Hibbert and Lebron on West is not a bad option at all IMO. Then you have Mario on Hill (fine), Battier on George (dicey, but might be enough) & Wade on Lance.

Then you can go bigger for stretches and bring in other options (Ray/Lewis..)

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Originally Posted by resistanze

Agreed. You're talking about a team that's trying to get the their 4th consecutive finals tbh. James and Wade were in the summer Olympics too. They've looked vulnerable all year - if they win the title I'd be supremely impressed.

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But they're playing a fucking garbage team. This would be a great point against the Spurs or OKC, but not against these Indiana faggots.

great speech by the King

LeBron's pre-game speeches :lmao

:lol sounded like someone with a 3rd grade reading level was talking

Don't worry about Game 2. Don't worry about Oklahoma.

???

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

But they're playing a fucking garbage team. This would be a great point against the Spurs or OKC, but not against these Indiana faggots.

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A garbage team that gets hard when it sees Miami tbh.

Now I chose the Heat to win the series but Pacers definitely have a chance.

Lebron's a horrible leader, at least his speeches suck dick

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

But they're playing a fucking garbage team. This would be a great point against the Spurs or OKC, but not against these Indiana faggots.

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IMO - you are sorely underestimating INDY. They are a flawed team offensively, but so is MIA. INDY took a better MIA team to game 7 last year. INDY went through an epically bad stretch, but don't fool yourself into thinking they will role over and don't match up pretty well with MIA overall. I fully expect MIA to win, but INDY is a good team when playing well.

Kang inspiring his team :worthy:

:lol that call on Paul George is horrendous tbh

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Pacers are just shooting at a high percentage right now. Once that comes down, they're finished tbh.

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they are not rushing their shots, no reason not to keep doing that.

Don't be fooled by the 1st quarter - Pacers fluked some threes and James had a couple of stupid turnovers, Heat will get it going and Pacers will go cold on O...just a matter of time.

Hibbert's post moves are awful

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

That's what I said, I think..I said it's the same strategy, but ATL had Antic instead of having to play another small to space the floor with Millsap.

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I know and agree. But it's not just about size. Millsap is a legitimate scorer at the four, whereas Battier isn't. They have Bosh playing the Antic role when he should be playing the Millsap role. Right now, they're giving West too much of a break on defense. Perhaps Beasley would be a better choice.

JVG was correct IMO. Watson will have to play decent minutes this series.

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Originally Posted by jeebus

Hibbert's awful

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Could have just left it at that :lol

Hibbert has become so bad. His contract is suddenly right up there with Boozer as the worst in basketball tbh

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Originally Posted by Clipper Nation

Could have just left it at that :lol

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But he's good at blaming his teammates

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I know and agree. But it's not just about size. Millsap is a legitimate scorer at the four, whereas Battier isn't. They have Bosh playing the Antic role when he should be playing the Millsap role. Right now, they're giving West too much of a break on defense. Perhaps Beasley would be a better choice.

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Ya - it's not as ideal as having Antic/Millsap, but I still think it's the right strategy because you don't have to worry about Hibbert killing you consistently on offense.

Damn Charmels really became a fat fuck.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10950599

:lol Wasn't Chalmers skinny to start the season? How much do you have to eat to play an 82 game reg season and get fatter tbh....

Scola needs to step his game up.

Scola looking like Blake Griffin on the break :lol

Pacers just looks like a championship team when Hibbert is playing like an All Star

God damn Indiana can't miss from 3

:lol Pacers bench just isn't any good. Giving up a big lead in moments

:lolrefs

Three heating up

I hate Mark Jackson.

:lol Running the offense through Lance has resulted in two turnovers and almost a third.

Mahinmi is fucking awful

Stephenson

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Originally Posted by Mugen

:lol Wasn't Chalmers skinny to start the season? How much do you have to eat to play an 82 game reg season and get fatter tbh....

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http://i.imgur.com/LJRYzcG.jpg

Can't resist it tbh

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Originally Posted by jeebus

http://i.imgur.com/LJRYzcG.jpg

Can't resist it tbh

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Hand down, double down tbh.

http://i58.tinypic.com/do8129.jpg

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

IMO - you are sorely underestimating INDY. They are a flawed team offensively, but so is MIA. INDY took a better MIA team to game 7 last year. INDY went through an epically bad stretch, but don't fool yourself into thinking they will role over and don't match up pretty well with MIA overall. I fully expect MIA to win, but INDY is a good team when playing well.

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I don't think last year's Heat was better than this year's team. Sure they lost Miller, but Wade is way healthier right now.

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Originally Posted by Muser

God damn Indiana can't miss from 3

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Which is fun but they're not going to shoot nowhere this rate in a series.

Indiana is starting to slow down. Miami has to keep at it. They can get this game under control pretty quickly.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

I don't think last year's Heat was better than this year's team. Sure they lost Miller, but Wade is way healthier right now.

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Wade is playing better and they did a good job of finding him rest, but I don't think a lot of the role players are playing as well as last year. We will see if a better Wade negates the dip from a few of the others. Very well could and MIA wins their 3rd in a row.

Lmao Hibbert, exercising like an old lady while watching tv.

Stephenson getting shat on :lol

Indy is playing their best game in months and only up 4.

Why no 3 second call on Pedo?

Lance thinks the NBA is a playground.

Lance, det one man show

Vogel resting his starters for a while now. Must be planning on playing them almost the entire second half

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Indy is playing their best game in months and only up 4.

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Their best game in the playoffs was game 3 vs Washington

Lance going full Kobe. This will end well

Indy is playing lights out on offense and only have a 6 point lead. Miami is in excellent shape, tbh.

Stephenson is making this series 100x more interesting than it should be tbh... Love that crazy mofo.

INDY is getting good looks though. I know they are not a great 3PT shooting team, but a lot of them are open looks off of ball movement. If INDY gets solid production from their bench, that is massive. With the smaller lineup and the attention Bosh/Bron are paying to the bigs, the perimeter is more open. Again, I think that is a good strategy, but if INDY makes shots much like the MAVS did against SA, it makes it tough. Still so early though and I bet MIA sticks with it. They are one run from taking the lead and control.

Damn Lance!!

:lol Lance has such an ugly game even if he's effective in spurts...

Wade looking like '06 Wade tbh

Indy is coasting as if it was a preseason game while Miami is in Game 7 of the Finals mode.

Miami's D sucks, man.

Love how Lance yells at his teammates for their mistakes after all he makes. He has a TO, then yells at Mahinmi on the next possession when he turns it over. Wade is grilling him on defense and he just yells at Roy for one possession and not helping.

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Originally Posted by smaka

Miami's D sucks, man.

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Yep not what it used to be.

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Originally Posted by smaka

Miami's D sucks, man.

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Are you kidding... Miami is still the best defensive team in the league when they want to be.. Pacers are shooting 64%, many of which are contested jump shots.. that won't continue.

Heat coasting, giving the haters false hope....

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Originally Posted by smaka

Miami's D sucks, man.

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:lmao Already blowing your load.

With INDY's propensity to go cold and stagnate on offense, MIA is fine. MIA is adjusting to a different lineup and figuring things out. INDY is getting good looks though.

Still seeing that version of Wade is pretty scary... Shouldn't be surprised tho, every time he turns out to be fine, not sure what he's injecting but it sure works very well...

Good coaching from Spo tbh..

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Originally Posted by MeloHype

Their best game in the playoffs was game 3 vs Washington

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They're shooting 64% against a legit D. They never played like this vs the Bullets.

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Originally Posted by TIMMYtoZO

:lmao Already blowing your load.

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:lol team like Indy with poor ball movement getting open looks every possession

Hibbert.. just stop.

The constant is INDY's defense though. No matter what they do on offense, the only one getting great looks consistently is Wade. If they aren't turning INDY over and getting out in transition, MIA isn't getting a ton of great looks IMO.

Love how Vogel stayed big against that small Heat lineup tbh..

Ball don't lie

Lance eyein down LeBron like he can take him

Brun:lol Mars

What a retarded timeout tbh.

http://i.minus.com/ib0I3Jwoxo6iyv.gif

Stephenson is basically out of control all the time, it's hilarious to watch...

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Love how Vogel stayed big against that small Heat lineup tbh..

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Yup. It's a battle of wills. Almost cost him the ATL series, but we will see how it works against MIA over the long haul.

Nice clock recognition, Hill. Stupid fuck

That cute little team blowing their load in the first half :lol

Indy still loses this game. No way they shoot that good in the second half.

The Heat can't afford to have LeBron bang down low all game with West and expect him to carry a huge offensive load in the 2nd half tbh.

Miami is in great shape. After all of that, they are only down 10. They'll make adjustments and take control in the 3rd. Indiana is playing way over their heads, tbh.

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Originally Posted by TIMMYtoZO

:lol I thought you were 100% confident that Indiana was going to take down Miami? I see some doubt starting to creep in now that the game is getting closer to starting.

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i'm not 100% confident since indiana is not bringing it 100% of the time, but yeay, indiana is my pick.

Heat in 6 btw
They will win this game late clutch Bosh and Ray 3s both assisted by LeBron.

if lance and roy brings it every game, this series is in indiana's favor

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

They're shooting 64% against a legit D. They never played like this vs the Bullets.

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Miami isn't a good defense team

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Originally Posted by MeloHype

Miami isn't a good defense team

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They are good just not consistent.

Big first half for INDY. More importantly than hitting 3's is they got good looks in most of their sets. Paul George hasn't even had to exert himself on offense either which for them is massive as he normally has the burden of the offense on his shoulder.

On defense, it's really Wade that is getting the good looks in the half court. Lebron is doing damage but it's mostly off of TO's and in transition. MIA is getting a whole lot of nothing from the majority of their bench. Should be interesting in the 2nd half.

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Originally Posted by BatManu20

Wade looking like '06 Wade tbh

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Watch him break down later in the series though.

Indy's entire goal this season is to get past this team. 82 games and 2 playoff series later, they're right where they want to be.

Since they've been that team the Miami Heat have had to get through on the road to the finals these past 3 years, I wouldn't be surprised if they're tired of this god damn shit.

Thus far, they've come out like they want to win. In the fourth quarter, we'll see if they really want to win.

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Originally Posted by TIMMYtoZO

Miami is in great shape. After all of that, they are only down 10. They'll make adjustments and take control in the 3rd. Indiana is playing way over their heads, tbh.

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They're down 10 at the half to a dysfunctional Pacers team?