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Super Quick Grades: Game 1 Western Conference Finals
I don't have a whole lot of time since I have a trip tomorrow early in the morning so excuse spelling and Grammar:lol
1. Tim Duncan - Tim was phenomenal in the first half offensively. He dominated the smaller big men of OKC in addition to Kevin Durant in the post..In the second half, particularly in the third i thought he tried way too much with Parker. Parker and him forced a two man game of pick and roll that made the offense stagnant. Defensively, he was awful both the first half and the second half..Pop recognized his poor PnR defense and decided to keep him in the bench for an extended period of time. Final Grade..B-
2. Tony Parker - Offensively, Parker passed the ball really well in the first half. I thought he should have been more aggressive in terms of looking for his own shoot early in the first quarter with Brooks opting to put Westbrook on him instead of Sefelosha to start the game, but Leonard and Duncan stepped up so it wasn't that big of an issue. In the second half, particularly in the third he forced a two man game of him and Duncan that made the offense stagnant. TONY NEEDS TO START TRUSTING HIS OTHER TEAMMATES. Defensively, he was ok for the most part..Final Grade B-
3. Manu Ginobili - Manu started heating up late in the third and was the focal point of the that punch back after a scary comeback from the thunder. In the First half he was just flat out poor on both ends of the floor. He Scored a few garbage points that allowed him to be in the NBA.com cover when in reality he was really subpar for the most part and was also part of the reason why the offense got stagnant mid third quarter..Final Grade C
4. Kawhi Leonard - This Kid is a Stud..offensively, he showed the right amount of aggressiveness. He was somewhat Subpar in the third offensively, but I think that was by design to allow Tony, Manu and Duncan to get going..unfortunately, that resulted in almost thunder comeback. Defensively he had 3 steals and caused a lot of disruptions..He was phenomenal on KD. Final Grade A+
5. Danny Green - This nigga is the real deal tbh. We all know he's a role player, but when danny hits his three there is no reason why he should be playing less than 30 minutes imo. Offensively he was hitting everything and defensively, he was a stud both against westbrook and KD. Final Grade A+
6. Tiago Splitter - In 19 minutes, Splitter lead the team in rebounds..Defensively, he was great at defending the PnR..Offensively, he didn't get much touches since he didn't play much. I don't really think this is splitter's series and I know Diaw is going to eat majority of the big man minutes, but for the amount of time he was out there..He was Great..Should have played more minutes over Duncan who was a liability on the defensive end. Final Grade A-
7. Boris Diaw - He was really aggressive against mismatches and posted up the most in the team. He posted up about 8 times tonight in 20 minutes play..That speaks volume to his aggressiveness which the spurs will be needing in this series.. That also, speaks volume to tony parker's ability to recognize mismatch..Tony passed him the ball everytime he gets a mismatch...Amazing recognition from Parker IMO, I didn't know he had that in him. Defensively, he was okysish IMO..but in this series, Diaw's offense is far more important that his defense. Final Grade B
8. Patty Mills - Patty made 2-3 of his shots and really frustrated Reggie Jackson. I thought he picked his spots today offensively and the effort was there defensively..Final Grade B
9. Marco Bellineli - Thankfully for the spurs, Bellineli can be hidden on the defensive end against OKC..Played 16 minutes and made a couple of shots. I don't really think he should be playing more than 15 minutes but that's Pop's call. For the most part, he did what was asked out of him and what he can do from a talent, and athletic ability perspective. Final Grade B-
10. Aaron Baynes - Steven Adams who?:lol..Baynes was awesome today. He made a crucial bucket in the third and made a couple of momentum killing defensive stops in the third as well..He was a huge reason why San Antonio regained their composure and lead late in the third. Final Grade A.
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Thanks for the grades, man. They were a great read, even if I could smell the CoK bias through my monitor :lol .
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Manu deserves more than C
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Chinook
Thanks for the grades, man. They were a great read, even if I could smell the CoK bias through my monitor :lol .
Kawhi is the reason i'm a Spurs fan(I wouldn't be following nba otherwise) but he definitely didn't have an A+ performance tonight
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I personally think Duncan deserves more than a B-... he was a killer on the interior..
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Duncan goes off for 27 and 7 with one turnover and gets a B-.
K.
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Mostly agree tbh, tho Leonard should get a B+ at best. His individual D was meh on Durbeta, but he caused enough havoc to be a big plus on that end. Needs to be more efficient with his shot selection, but 16 FGAs sounds about right in this series.
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These grades are so tinted with CoK flavor that they're virtually useless, tbqh...
Manu a C? Tony Parker and Tim Duncan a B-? :lol
All deserved As...
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:lol
At Duncan and Parker deserving an A today
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You forgot to give Ibaka's calf an A+++++++
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apalisoc_9
I don't have a whole lot of time since I have a trip tomorrow early in the morning so excuse spelling and Grammar:lol
5. Danny Green - This nigga is the real deal tbh. We all know he's a role player, but when danny hits his three there is no reason why he should be playing less than 30 minutes imo. Offensively he was hitting everything and defensively, he was a stud both against westbrook and KD.[B] Final Grade A+
:lol
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thanks for the write up... while i disagree with some stuff here and there i always appreciate people putting there time into this stuff. i thought leonard was good not great defensively, but a lot of that is just durant being durant.
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I stopped reading when Manu got a C
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Baynes should get an A, just for knocking down Durant.
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baynes was a A just for what you got vs. what you'd expect from him in a playoffs game. what a pleasant surprise. i suspect some cia pop.
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Bring back TimVP grade's , these are useless. A fuckin A+ for KAwhi??? that's for when Michael Jordan would go off for 50 in the playoffs. Please do not grade anymore
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My nigga diaw does not deserve a B tbh fwiw
thanks for the grades
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These grades are mostly stupid. The Spurs blew out the Thunder. No one should get below a B. Tim Duncan has like 27 points and it's a B-? His first half offense was key to is winning the game and he wasn't bad on defense, it's just that Splitter is better at pick and roll defense. Tony Parker gets 12 assists and it's a B-? 12 assists shows he trusts his teammates. Does he need like 30 assists to prove that?
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21209
I stopped reading when Manu got a C
This. No one was less than B grade.
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:lol
At Manu deserving a B just because the spurs blew out the thunder
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apalisoc_9
:lol
At Manu deserving a B just because the spurs blew out the thunder
And yet if Danny Green scores 18 points on 7-12 shooting including 3-4 from three point range with only one turnover, then he's an A+. Just silly bias. Manu has up and down games, but yesterday was an up game for any rational viewer.
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apalisoc_9
TONY NEEDS TO START TRUSTING HIS OTHER TEAMMATES.
12 assists. Good try, though.
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testies
Manu deserves more than C
Indeed, but a lot of people doesn't know shit about good basketball, they just see how much a player scores.
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apalisoc_9
TONY NEEDS TO START TRUSTING HIS OTHER TEAMMATES.
I don't even know what this means...
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_JaG
I don't even know what this means...
It means he doesn't pass the ball to Kawhi, which is the new "Tony doesn't pass the ball to Manu" :cry :cry :cry
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D- effort on the quick grades brah..
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will_spurs
It means he doesn't pass the ball to Kawhi, which is the new "Tony doesn't pass the ball to Manu" :cry :cry :cry
Kawhi needs to get better at cutting to the basket.
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will_spurs
12 assists. Good try, though.
:lol fucking truth bomb
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Thanks Malik Hairston / HarlemHeat87
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Bare with me as I was highly intoxicated last night, did TD even play in the 4th???
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doldrums
Bring back TimVP grade's , these are useless. A fuckin A+ for KAwhi??? that's for when Michael Jordan would go off for 50 in the playoffs. Please do not grade anymore
this tbqfh
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Bad Grade, Thanks for the effort.
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look_at_g_shred
Bare with me as I was highly intoxicated last night, did TD even play in the 4th???
Roughly 3 minutes (between 5 and 2 minutes left).
3 defensive rebounds, 3 points: 1 layup and a 3-point play off a foul by Fisher + a technical on Perkins (1/2 FT and Manu scored the technical FT).
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Using quick grades to take another backhanded bashing at Manu. I guess this beats another "Manu sucks" thread.
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SpurAddict561
Easily my favorite play of the game!
LOL @ the TP hate with 12 assists.
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gameFACE
Easily my favorite play of the game!
LOL @ the TP hate with 12 assists.
My favorite was when he dunked on Reggie Jackson.
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Lol at the trolls trying to prop up these sham grades. :lol
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I think Ginobili deserves a bit higher than that. He went crazy at the end of the third, and was pretty much the reason why OKC small-ball didn't work then.
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superjames1992
These grades are so tinted with CoK flavor that they're virtually useless, tbqh...
Manu a C? Tony Parker and Tim Duncan a B-? :lol
All deserved As...
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Thanks apalisoc_9
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apalisoc_9
Tim Duncan..Defensively, he was awful both the first half and the second half..Pop recognized his poor PnR defense and decided to keep him in the bench for an extended period of time.
When people said Tim doesn't have the fresh legs to prevent the ball-handler from getting to the rim and gets back to recover to the roll man...I just remember the pick and roll defense is a team defense, particularly against OKC -according to Synergy the Thunder rank third in pick and roll efficiency-.
Just for Pop's design or just because they forget, the Spurs didn't help from the weak side, didn't fight over the screen to take away any space, not defense on the screener...Duncan is the only guy who didn't check on the roll man? We shouldn't blame Tim for all the mistakes on PnR defense.
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Kawhi Leonard...Defensively he had 3 steals and caused a lot of disruptions..He was phenomenal on KD
Not sure if he was phenomenal but was great.
Some guys on ST think Leonard didn't a good job on Durant and they said -again- Leonard's defense is overrated, because KD shot 52% against Kawhi.
But those guys forget...
-Durant finished shooting 6/15 on contested and 4/4 on his uncontested shots
-he had only one FGA that was less than 10 ft from rim
-he took 5 attempts less, it means he wasn't too comfortable
-he had six turnovers
-he couldn't get his 12 free throws pg because Leonard didn't foul him.
For those guys who said Batum>Leonard before last series, and now said Tony Allen D>Leonard D... We know how that ended against Portland.
Just for the record, Kawhi's a better defender over Allen/Matt Barnes.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn-MRudCUAAJSqZ.png:large
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Thanks for the grades, tbh, keep up the solid work, my nigga..
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I didn't agree with a lot of the grades.
I watched the game last night from my couch without getting on ptr or st because if things went south I didn't want to end up defending great players from idiots on game threads who couldn't find their asses with both hands. I actually enjoyed the game.
Not surprising that Parker got only a B grade (I forget if it had a + or - associated with it), given who was giving out the grades, but it is a travesty nonetheless. How can Parker get respect from the rest of the league when he gets so little from Spurs fans! Parker only took 12 shots, shot 50% from the field and had 12 assists with 1 turnover and he gets a B! What crap. Had he taken 20 shots people would be carping about that. Had he had a fair number of turnovers, people would be carping about that. If he made less than half his shots, people would be carping about that.
Parker outplayed Westbrook by a large margin when you take the entire game into account, and he did it with a strained hammy.
Manu had a really good game as well, and IIRC, only had one turnover.
I'm so glad that the Spurs won. They played beautifully!!
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EVAY
I didn't agree with a lot of the grades.
I watched the game last night from my couch without getting on ptr or st because if things went south I didn't want to end up defending great players from idiots on game threads who couldn't find their asses with both hands. I actually enjoyed the game.
Not surprising that Parker got only a B grade (I forget if it had a + or - associated with it), given who was giving out the grades, but it is a travesty nonetheless. How can Parker get respect from the rest of the league when he gets so little from Spurs fans! Parker only took 12 shots, shot 50% from the field and had 12 assists with 1 turnover and he gets a B! What crap. Had he taken 20 shots people would be carping about that. Had he had a fair number of turnovers, people would be carping about that. If he made less than half his shots, people would be carping about that.
Parker outplayed Westbrook by a large margin when you take the entire game into account, and he did it with a strained hammy.
Manu had a really good game as well, and IIRC, only had one turnover.
I'm so glad that the Spurs won. They played beautifully!!
Parker or Manu could score the game winning basket of game 7 in the NBA finals, and some people would still complain about them.
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cd98
Parker or Manu could score the game winning basket of game 7 in the NBA finals, and some people would still complain about them.
Parker effectively DID score the game winner of game 6 last year when he scored that last 5 points for the Spurs with only 26 seconds to go in the game…and all lots of folks could talk about afterward was how many he missed before those clutch shots.
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EVAY
I didn't agree with a lot of the grades.
I watched the game last night from my couch without getting on ptr or st because if things went south I didn't want to end up defending great players from idiots on game threads who couldn't find their asses with both hands. I actually enjoyed the game.
Not surprising that Parker got only a B grade (I forget if it had a + or - associated with it), given who was giving out the grades, but it is a travesty nonetheless. How can Parker get respect from the rest of the league when he gets so little from Spurs fans! Parker only took 12 shots, shot 50% from the field and had 12 assists with 1 turnover and he gets a B! What crap. Had he taken 20 shots people would be carping about that. Had he had a fair number of turnovers, people would be carping about that. If he made less than half his shots, people would be carping about that.
Parker outplayed Westbrook by a large margin when you take the entire game into account, and he did it with a strained hammy.
Manu had a really good game as well, and IIRC, only had one turnover.
I'm so glad that the Spurs won. They played beautifully!!
I love how the OP talks about Parker not passing the ball, then ignores that he had 12 assists.
Tony deserves an A, not the B- the OP gave him. :lol
Giving Timmy a B- is also a travesty. Does the OP think we win without Timmy's dominant offensive performance? Sure, he had the matchup advantage much of the game, but still.
And then the OP has the gall to give Manu a C, who scored crucial baskets in the third quarter when things were heading south and had 18 second-half points, including several in the fourth quarter that put the game out of reach.
I mean... :lol :lol :lol
But Kawhi got an A+, of course... Kawhi could put up a 4 points, 2 rebounds, 2-16 FG line and probably get an A- from the OP, tbqh.
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apalisoc_9
:lol
At Manu deserving a B just because the spurs blew out the thunder
He hit some big shots in the 4th. I believe he hit a pair of 3's that helped bury the Refs.
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This grades are pure bullshit.
OP is bullshit, tbh.
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cd021
He hit some big shots in the 4th. I believe he hit a pair of 3's that helped bury the Refs.
So we judge the game based on what he did for 5 minutes and what Duncan did on the offensive end in the first half?
It's gotta be about the totatalliy of the game..
Makes me sad how people expected a Grade A for Duncan when he was awful defensively. I specifically said Manu saved our ass in the third, but hey I guess in a game grade we should just forgot the awful things he did in the game.
I said Tony was phenomnal assisting the ball in the first quarter..I don't understand why we get so many butthurt people. He got 3 in the second half total.
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Serious bias in several of these grades.
Tim, Tony, & Manu - too low, especially Manu.
K & Verde - tad too high.
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apalisoc_9
So we judge the game based on what he did for 5 minutes and what Duncan did on the offensive end in the first half?
It's gotta be about the totatalliy of the game..
Makes me sad how people expected a Grade A for Duncan when he was awful defensively. I specifically said Manu saved our ass in the third, but hey I guess in a game grade we should just forgot the awful things he did in the game.
I said Tony was phenomnal assisting the ball in the first quarter..I don't understand why we get so many butthurt people. He got 3 in the second half total.
If those 5 minutes help slam the door then that certainly affects his grade.
Not every player is going to be absolutely flawless for 20 or 30 minutes. If he comes up big in money time then it certainly should bump their grade.
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cd021
If those 5 minutes help slam the door then that certainly affects his grade.
Not every player is going to be absolutely flawless for 20 or 30 minutes. If he comes up big in money time then it certainly should bump their grade.
Sure, but are we suppose to give a player an A if he scored 5 points in the last minute but was part of the reason why the game was even close to begin with? NO..
Manu was on his way to get a D..He had an awesome third so he got a C..Tony was on his way to get an A, he was bad in the second half so he got a B..Duncan was on his way to get an A, but he was bad in the second half so get a B.
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apalisoc_9
5. Danny Green - This nigga is the real deal tbh. ]
Funniest shit I've ever read
Lol awesome
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apalisoc_9
So we judge the game based on what he did for 5 minutes and what Duncan did on the offensive end in the first half?
It's gotta be about the totatalliy of the game..
Makes me sad how people expected a Grade A for Duncan when he was awful defensively. I specifically said Manu saved our ass in the third, but hey I guess in a game grade we should just forgot the awful things he did in the game.
I said Tony was phenomnal assisting the ball in the first quarter..I don't understand why we get so many butthurt people. He got 3 in the second half total.
You gave Baynes an A for 5 minutes of work. I'm sure there was a minute in the game where he didn't get a rebound, point , or assist. The point isn't to diminish Baynes, but maybe guys like Tim and Manu were called on to do different things at different points in the game. Give a grade on impact, not a missed shot or two in the first half or a failure to stop Durrant from hitting a pick and roll jumper on a possession.
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too bad the trolls ran off the site owners when they started low-balling their private life. shame shame.
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apalisoc_9
So we judge the game based on what he did for 5 minutes and what Duncan did on the offensive end in the first half?
It's gotta be about the totatalliy of the game..
Makes me sad how people expected a Grade A for Duncan when he was awful defensively. I specifically said Manu saved our ass in the third, but hey I guess in a game grade we should just forgot the awful things he did in the game.
I said Tony was phenomnal assisting the ball in the first quarter..I don't understand why we get so many butthurt people. He got 3 in the second half total.
Wrong again.
Tony had 6 assists in the first half and six assists in the second half. He didn't score as much in the second half because, as he said, "It was what they were giving me…". In other words, he read the thunder defense perfectly, took fewer shots himself the Spurs didn't need him to score, and he got the ball to people who were scoring.
It was the perfect way to play the game for the pg.
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:lol at arguing about grades
I'm cool with apo grades based on expectation not pure performance, that's why baynes can get a A for 5 mn knowing we don't expect anything from him and he did well in 5 mn.
Then after you can disagree with the comments
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Awful grades, nice try tho.
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Brazil
:lol at arguing about grades
I'm cool with apo grades based on expectation not pure performance, that's why baynes can get a A for 5 mn knowing we don't expect anything from him and he did well in 5 mn.
Then after you can disagree with the comments
that's always how timvp's grades were set up.
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Diego20
Awful grades, nice try tho.
Argentinean fans not liking Manu's C tbh :lol
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oh and yeah imo manu is not a C but a A+ based on expectations tbh fwiw
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Brazil
oh and yeah imo manu is not a C but a A+ based on expectations tbh fwiw
:lol there's a reason I don't do grades anymore
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Kinda sad how low your expectations are for Kawhi if shooting 40% while allowing KD to shoot over 50% is as good as you think he can be...
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ElNono
:lol there's a reason I don't do grades anymore
:lol