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Refs could have whistled Duncan for a moving screen on the Ginobili three, but let it go. IMHO it was a makeup non-call for the Ibaka goaltend.
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we did it guys. we beat the thunderefs
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Typical, the whole series has been swayed in OKC favor.
The other night Wstbrook was blatantly out of bounds when he stole the ball and the refs didn't make that call either.
An easy argument could be made that if the refs were really fair, then this series would have been a sweep by the Spurs.
After games 3 and 4 the Spurs HAD to realize that they were playing more than just the Thunder, and rose to the occasion!
They had best realize right now that it will be even worse against the Heat.
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Jenks
Need to see the video of durant's "block" on Tim, the one where Tim recovered and handed it off to Kawhi (who missed). IMO that was a much worse no call than the goaltend.
Yes. Not only didn't Durant get all ball, he got no ball...all forearm. My wife had to calm me down after that replay.
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What about that KD block on Duncan which was zero ball and all arm? No call either. Was like, two minutes before the goaltend one.
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thiste
What about that KD block on Duncan which was zero ball and all arm? No call either. Was like, two minutes before the goaltend one.
i think it was the previous possession
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I mean, just show me ONE no call HALF as blatant as those two, but in favor of the Spurs. You just can't.
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Typical London Boy
Am pretty confident that had it been for OKC, we'd have come back from commercials to see they'd been given the two points.
Absolutely.
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These refs were obviously the most ineffective NBA conspirators of all time, they completely failed on their orders to get the Thunder into the Finals.
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Typical London Boy
Always hear the BS "they can only review it if it's in the last two minutes" excuse everytime a decision goes against the Spurs... and yet, here we are in the last two minutes... and they can't review it. What a fucking surprise that is.
Am pretty confident that had it been for OKC, we'd have come back from commercials to see they'd been given the two points.
They could only review it if they had actually made the goaltending call. I wouldn't be surprised if they just start whistling anything close in the last two minutes now.
Yes, KD got all arm on that Duncan block.
Yes, Duncan got away with a pretty obvious moving screen, but maybe Fisher's flop helped the refs decide the makeup non-call.
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Do not get me started on Fisher :)
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Dex
S they actually showed considerable restraint by not falling for a number of outrageous flops. Still, that could have potentially been another series-changing missed call to benefit the Thunder.
Im fairly stunned they did not call the Derek Swisher flop when Tim screened him on the Manu three pointer.
Another of Fishers ultra faggy flops.
Refs swallowed. Very surprising.
Regina and Kerr calling it a foul on Tim. :rolleyes
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It looked to me like the ball's downward trajectory after it hit the glass would have been below the rim of the basket and not even close to going in. I don't know how much leeway the rules give the Refs have on a call like that one. Can they figure in whether the ball had a chance to fall into the basket?
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wildbill2u
It looked to me like the ball's downward trajectory after it hit the glass would have been below the rim of the basket and not even close to going in. I don't know how much leeway the rules give the Refs have on a call like that one. Can they figure in whether the ball had a chance to fall into the basket?
have you ever played basketball? its a black and white rule lol
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baseline bum
What horseshit about the officiating being good last night. The Spurs beat a horrible goaltend and 18 Oklahoma food stamps in the fourth.
This. The goaltend was a huge miss, as well as Durants "block" on Timmy. That was very obviously a foul. Bad miss.
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thiste
I mean, just show me ONE no call HALF as blatant as those two, but in favor of the Spurs. You just can't.
I can't but I can show you another blatant no call against Manu in the previous game, a "Block" just like Tim's, all arm no ball, I think it was Ibaka or Durant
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baseline bum
What horseshit about the officiating being good last night. The Spurs beat a horrible goaltend and 18 Oklahoma food stamps in the fourth.
Yep. I was counting off the foodstamps. I told my friend there would be a huge FT discrepancy in the 4th, at least enough to cover the deficit. He couldn't believe it as it was happening.
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You know what pissed me off about that play the most? It wasn't the goaltend, or even that the call was missed. It was finding out that the "new goaltend review rule" only applied to OVERTURNING goaltend calls, NOT to give a team the points they earned. Fucking USELESS review rule that does nothing to address all the missed goaltend calls on Ibaka and other players "blocks". Ibaka probably has at least 100 blocks that were actually goaltends. He has nearly 2 dozen on us in the playoffs alone.
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testies
it kind of can look that westbrook blocked the shot
refs were fine yesterday, to my surprise
lolwut? Durant's "block" on Duncan's dunk at the end was all wrist and forearm. There were also several hacks and rakes by OKC that went uncalled in the last few mins. Meanwhile all touch contact on OKC shots resulted in FTAs per par.
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Spurs 4 The Win
It was actually Kenny Smith who said it on Inside the NBA and Shaq and Barkley and Ernie started hammering him for being so stupid, he also said kawhi was lucky on the steal on westchuck, not a good night for a usually solid analyst.
Agree. I was surprised to hear Kenny say that about the Kawhi play. There's a reason Kawhi was in position to make the play in the first place. Being fortunate probably wasn't a factor.
His comments on the goaltend were pretty dumb as well.
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DMC
Yep. I was counting off the foodstamps. I told my friend there would be a huge FT discrepancy in the 4th, at least enough to cover the deficit. He couldn't believe it as it was happening.
Yep. The Spurs reached the foul limit with 9:24 to go in the quarter :lol
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baseline bum
What horseshit about the officiating being good last night. The Spurs beat a horrible goaltend and 18 Oklahoma food stamps in the fourth.
OK would have cashed em in for meth tbh. Specially bubbles
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spurraider21
Yep. The Spurs reached the foul limit with 9:24 to go in the quarter :lol
It's funny when RW charges into the paint and turns his back to the rim just flying through bodies with no hopes of a shot, like red rover red rover.. which they should call him anyhow, and he gets bailed out every time by the refs. I was shocked that Leonard wasn't called for a foul on that take away on the break.
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DMC
It's funny when RW charges into the paint and turns his back to the rim just flying through bodies with no hopes of a shot, like red rover red rover.. which they should call him anyhow, and he gets bailed out every time by the refs. I was shocked that Leonard wasn't called for a foul on that take away on the break.
yeah its those plays that tick me off. i do think westbrook draws a ton of legitimate fouls, but as you mentioned, he gets bailed out on a play where he isn't even looking to score. its ugly to watch. unfortunately the guy knows where his bread is buttered so he uses that "strategy" quite a bit
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spurraider21
yeah its those plays that tick me off. i do think westbrook draws a ton of legitimate fouls, but as you mentioned, he gets bailed out on a play where he isn't even looking to score. its ugly to watch. unfortunately the guy knows where his bread is buttered so he uses that "strategy" quite a bit
You have (had) a team where the big 3 gathers the most FTA in the league. That's not by accident. Other teams don't do that because they don't trust they will get the calls. For some reason OKC does. You had Durant at 1, Harden at 2 and possibly Russ around the top 5 especially in the playoffs. Howard is not an issue because he's fouled intentionally. How one team gets that many calls without picking up a ton of offensive fouls is mind boggling.
If the three were on the same team getting the same stats they get now, they would be averaging over 25FTA per game. That's insane. Even when they were on the same team they were averaging close to 20FTA per game. That's obviously being taught to them, to try to get to the line and use their FT shooting ability to score points. That's a product of a coaching system that has no real alternatives, it's a gimmick that the league seems complicit on.