Nesterovic Possible best case scenario

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Originally Posted by marcus

well, i don't know if he is so unproven. Oberto is one of the Argentinian team that reached the world cup finals in 2002 and won the gold medal in Athens, although he got injured against Usa.
:rolleyes

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Refer to one Drazen Petrovic.

Guy was, and still is, regarded as one of the best foreign players to ever play the game. He is still regarded as a legend in Europe, and lead the Yugoslavian National Team to an Olympic silver in 1988.

He averaged 37.7 points in four seasons in Europe. Came over to the NBA, and that average dropped to 7.6 over the course of his first 2 years in Portland. This from a guy who scored 114 points by himself in a single game overseas.

Until you see what a player can do on the NBA courts, he is still unproven in this league. Even Manu has had to climb a mountain to get to the point he is at now. When he first started getting playing time in San Antonio, people thought he was just another European scrub.

But there are some things for sure.

1. Oberto is no kid. He is totally experienced and will act as a pro, not as a young european kid who just come to the league.
2. He will come to the Spurs that makes everything much easier for foreign players.
3. He will play with Manu that knows him for almost 10 years, lol.

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Originally Posted by Dex

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23309

Refer to one Drazen Petrovic.

Guy was, and still is, regarded as one of the best foreign players to ever play the game. He is still regarded as a legend in Europe, and lead the Yugoslavian National Team to an Olympic silver in 1988.

He averaged 37.7 points in four seasons in Europe. Came over to the NBA, and that average dropped to 7.6 over the course of his first 2 years in Portland. This from a guy who scored 114 points by himself in a single game overseas.

Until you see what a player can do on the NBA courts, he is still unproven in this league. Even Manu has had to climb a mountain to get to the point he is at now. When he first started getting playing time in San Antonio, people thought he was just another European scrub.

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One big problem. That was before the original Dream Team. They made kids overseas and down south pick up a basketball instead of a soccer ball.

Manu would a goalie, architect or stocking shelves if it hadn't been for Jordan and the rest of the other olympic teams.

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Originally Posted by marcus

But there are some things for sure.

1. Oberto is no kid. He is totally experienced and will act as a pro, not as a young european kid who just come to the league.
2. He will come to the Spurs that makes everything much easier for foreign players.
3. He will play with Manu that knows him for almost 10 years, lol.

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Agreed, agreed, and agreed. I, personally, think he will fit in fine with the Spurs system, especially since he WILL have a few of these luxuries to lean back on.

But I still think it will take him about half a season to really come into his own, which means we will need to keep our other options at Center available until the team can discern when/if this is going to happen.

I, like most here, think Oberto can achieve big things. However, I don't downright expect them from him. Not right away, anyways.

Last summer the league was abuzz about the Spurs having a great offseason with the acquisition of Brent Barry. This summer, the word seems to be that the Heat have had the best offseason among contenders while the champion Spurs have been relatively quiet. I think come the middle of next season that the Oberto signing will start getting that kind of pub.

dammit, the Spurs/Pop get trashed in 03 because people retired and left to start elsewhere, and the Spurs get trashed in 05 because everybody stays. WTF?

How about this. After next year, Nazr and Rasho for Yao Ming? Yao and Nazr will both be free agents, each team do a sign and trade with Rasho in the mix. Then we can also bring Scola over to join the Spurs. The front court of Yao, Duncan, Oberto, Horry and Scola. Awesome!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Rescueone

How about this. After next year, Nazr and Rasho for Yao Ming? Yao and Nazr will both be free agents, each team do a sign and trade with Rasho in the mix. Then we can also bring Scola over to join the Spurs. The front court of Yao, Duncan, Oberto, Horry and Scola. Awesome!!!!!!

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Wake up and stop dreaming! Its time to smell the coffee and face reality.

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Originally Posted by Dalamar_the_Dark

Wake up and stop dreaming! Its time to smell the coffee and face reality.

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No you wake up and face reality! Why not? Duncan thought about leaving San Antonio. REMEMBER the trip to Orlando? So why can't the Spurs try and lure Yao from Houston? Never say never! NOTHING is set in stone in regards to NBA players. The players are always on the move from team to team. It's called free agencies. "Free to move" All a player has to do is say "they no longer want to play for X-team" and you can bet your ass that that player will be moved. If not, the team risks a cancer to the team. Name one player that said they no longer wanted to play for X-team and then stayed on that team without upsetting chemistry. Yao in San Antonio could be a possibility! It all depends on where his "loyalty" is, or if he has a "feed his kids" type attitude. If he didn't pledge his Allegience to Houston, it's a possibility for any team to sign him away from the Rockets. It's not impossible. If Shaq can move, anybody can move! PERIOD!!

Do you really see Yao fitting with the Spurs? Not that I would ever trade Rasho for him... Just curious.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Do you really see Yao fitting with the Spurs? Not that I would ever trade Rasho for him... Just curious.

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Do you actually think Rasho + Nazr >Yao?

For our team, yes.

What are we missing that Yao would bring? Except a few inches... = )

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

What are we missing that Yao would bring? Except a few inches... = )

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You've got to be kidding! :lol :lol Yao is an ALL STAR!! Rasho is SOFT and his shot stinks and Nazr is almost as soft. Nazr has second grade ball fakes and boards for hands. Yao would fit well in San ANTONIO. He plays better defense, and averages more points and rebounds per game than Rasho and Nazr. The Spurs haven't got much production out of the 5 slot last year. Wouldn't it be nice to have another low post option to go to when Duncan is struggling some nights. IMO Yao is head, shoulders, elbows, knees and toes > Rasho + Nazr. Would you miss Rasho if he were to leave? Please tell me you're trying to be funny with that reply!!

Personally, I would have problems maxing out a guy who is never going to be able to play more than 30mpg -- especially with a better low block player in Duncan already on the team -- and don't pretend Yao will get anything less than the max, whether his play calls for it or not.

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Originally Posted by Rescueone

Would you miss Rasho if he were to leave? !

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Anyone care to answer that? :lol

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Would you miss Rasho if he were to leave?

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Depends on how Nazr and Oberto defend.

Yao Ming is talented. You'll hear no argument from me. He also seems like a nice guy and is obviously well liked .
If I am not mistaken, Yao got the most All Star votes.

But in team sports, there is more factors to consider than just skill and popularity.

If a team is going to succeed there has to be chemistry. I just don't picture Yao playing in our system. I think he'd be over kill.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Depends on how Nazr and Oberto defend.

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LOL! I meant answer for me...

Would Angel miss Rasho if he were.. you know... :depressed

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Personally, I would have problems maxing out a guy who is never going to be able to play more than 30mpg -- especially with a better low block player in Duncan already on the team -- and don't pretend Yao will get anything less than the max, whether his play calls for it or not.

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30 minutes per game is perfect. That's why Oberto is on the team. To play when the starter is resting. Yao given the max is fine with me. I could live with that. San Antonio would start three All Stars with a possibilty of Tony being the fourth in 2006-2007. You have trouble with San Antonio being the favorite to win at least five more championships with the addittion of Yao?
Duncan, Yao, Manu, Parker, Bowen. Looks good to me!

Rescue-

Do you really see Yao and Timmy being a good match. I know they are both talented but do their games compliment each other?

And could Yao handle Gino's passes?

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30 minutes per game is perfect. That's why Oberto is on the team. To play when the starter is resting. Yao given the max is fine with me.

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Not for the Spurs when they already have Duncan.

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You have trouble with San Antonio being the favorite to win at least five more championships with the addittion of Yao?

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I have trouble with the Rockets' letting go of the 2nd biggest cash cow in the post-Jordan era for two guys he's "head, shoulders, elbows, knees and toes" above more than anything.

Like I said Yao > Rasho. How has Rasho handled Manu's passes. How has Rasho fit in with Duncan? Yao and Duncan can co-exist. I don't see any problems at all. No one can argue that they wouldn't make a bad ass 1-2 combo.

Yao is in the Rasho class of player: plays basketball because he's very tall, but has no athletic ability.