Kawhi Leonard named to All Defensive 2nd team

Kobe snubbed

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

:lmao Anthony Davis didn't make it but Hibbert did

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i don't see anything wrong with that, lottery players shouldn't get awards no matter how good they may look. And :lol @ reggie jackson, harden and parker getting votes.. the worst thing of course is chris paul's first team, absolutely ridiculous :lol

Congrats Kawhi :toast

"David Lee and James Harden received All-Defensive Team votes."

Yeah, some voters were trolling. Tony Allen not making the 1st or the 2nd defensive team is absurd IMO.

Congrats Kawhi. Can't believe Green didn't receive more votes, guy may be the best defensive 2-guard in the NBA these days (outside Tony Allen).

:lmao @ Harden getting votes

If CP3 play such a great defense, then how come has he never been to the conference finals? :lol

:lol Harden

crofl Chris Paul, Catfish and Iggy... media-manufactured "defenders"

Splitter and Green don't get much attention, but have been amazing defensively this year. But since we don't block shots or get steals, no one notices.

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Originally Posted by Raven

i don't see anything wrong with that, lottery players shouldn't get awards no matter how good they may look. And :lol @ reggie jackson, harden and parker getting votes.. the worst thing of course is chris paul's first team, absolutely ridiculous :lol

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that makes zero sense

Congrats to Kawhi, though he should have gotten All Defensive 1st team. My list would have looked something like this:

Tony Allen - G
Danny Green - G
Kawhi Leonard - F
Serge Ibaka - F
Joakim Noah - C

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Originally Posted by myhc

Is Chris Paul the new Kobe?

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This.

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Originally Posted by jsandiego

Splitter and Green don't get much attention, but have been amazing defensively this year. But since we don't block shots or get steals, no one notices.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by loveforthegame

Oh dear. George and Iggy on the first team? :lol

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

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While he'll probably never get the votes, Danny is a hell of a defender. If there were justice, he'd get serious consideration.

Kawhi is a better defender than Iggy and P George. :lolNBA

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Originally Posted by Kawhi

2013-14 NBA All-Defensive First Team

Position | Player, Team | 1st Team Votes (2 pts) | 2nd Team Votes (1pt) | Total Points
Center | Joakim Noah, Chicago | 105 | 13 | 223
Forward | Paul George, Indiana | 65 | 31 | 161
Guard | Chris Paul, LA Clippers | 64 | 28 | 156
Forward | Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City | 54 | 44 | 152
G/F | Andre Iguodala, Golden State 57 | 34 | 148
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive Second Team

Position | Player, Team | 1st Team Votes (2 pts) | 2nd Team Votes (1pt) | Total Points
Forward | LeBron James, Miami | 57 | 20 | 134
Guard | Patrick Beverley, Houston | 44 | 24 | 112
Guard | Jimmy Butler, Chicago | 29 | 45 | 103
Forward | Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio | 16 | 57 | 89
Center | Roy Hibbert, Indiana | 15 | 46 | 76

Other players receiving votes, with point totals (First Team votes in parentheses): DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers 63 (14); Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 62 (18); Tony Allen, Memphis, 60 (17); Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 45 (12); Dwight Howard, Houston, 26 (6); Taj Gibson, Chicago, 21 (2); Mike Conley, Memphis, 21 (5); Ricky Rubio, Minnesota, 19 (5); Lance Stephenson, Indiana, 14 (3); P.J. Tucker, Phoenix, 13 (2); Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City, 10 (2); Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 10 (3); Eric Bledsoe, Phoenix, 9 (1); Marc Gasol, Memphis, 8; John Wall, Washington, 8 (1); Thabo Sefolosha, Oklahoma City, 8 (1); Kirk Hinrich, Chicago, 7 (2); Trevor Ariza, Washington, 5 (2); Avery Bradley, Boston, 5 (1); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 5 (1); Klay Thompson, Golden State, 5; Andrew Bogut, Golden State, 4; Chris Bosh, Miami, 4 (1); Luol Deng, Cleveland, 4 (1); Wesley Matthews, Portland, 4 (1); Tony Parker, San Antonio, 4 (1); Nicolas Batum, Portland, 3 (1); Stephen Curry, Golden State, 3 (1); Danny Green, San Antonio, 3 (1); Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Charlotte, 3; Shaun Livingston, Brooklyn, 3 (1); Victor Oladipo, Orlando, 3 (1); DeMarre Carroll, Atlanta, 2; Matt Barnes, L.A. Clippers, 2 (1); James Harden, Houston, 2; George Hill, Indiana, 2; Jeff Teague, Atlanta, 2; Dwyane Wade, Miami, 2 (1); Kemba Walker, Charlotte, 2; David West, Indiana, 2; Arron Afflalo, Orlando, 1; Corey Brewer, Minnesota, 1; Michael Carter-Williams, Philadelphia,1; Darren Collison, L.A. Clippers, 1; DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 1; Andre Drummond, Detroit, 1; Monta Ellis, Dallas, 1; Danny Granger, L.A. Clippers, 1; Draymond Green, Golden State, 1; Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City, 1; David Lee, Golden State, 1; Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 1; Rajon Rondo, Boston, 1.

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Don't know how TP and cripples like Danny Granger can get votes but not Splitter, who's clearly one of the best defending Centers in the league.

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Originally Posted by jsandiego

Splitter and Green don't get much attention, but have been amazing defensively this year. But since we don't block shots or get steals, no one notices.

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Green led the league in blocks per game. I believe he was second in guards for DRtg (a stat I dislike, but still) for guards as well. The numbers were there. But he'll never get credit for it with Leonard next to him. Kawhi will have to win the awards for both of them.

It's hard to take these awards seriously when a guy like CP3 is selected in the 1st team. I'll never understand how this player in particular became a media favorite with so little actual game (not to mention achievements).

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Originally Posted by will_spurs

It's hard to take these awards seriously when a guy like CP3 is selected in the 1st team. I'll never understand how this player in particular became a media favorite with so little actual game (not to mention achievements).

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But...but...dem alley oops, though!

the first of many

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Originally Posted by Kawhi

Other players receiving votes, with point totals (First Team votes in parentheses): DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers 63 (14); Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 62 (18); Tony Allen, Memphis, 60 (17); Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 45 (12); Dwight Howard, Houston, 26 (6); Taj Gibson, Chicago, 21 (2); Mike Conley, Memphis, 21 (5); Ricky Rubio, Minnesota, 19 (5); Lance Stephenson, Indiana, 14 (3); P.J. Tucker, Phoenix, 13 (2); Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City, 10 (2); Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 10 (3); Eric Bledsoe, Phoenix, 9 (1); Marc Gasol, Memphis, 8; John Wall, Washington, 8 (1); Thabo Sefolosha, Oklahoma City, 8 (1); Kirk Hinrich, Chicago, 7 (2); Trevor Ariza, Washington, 5 (2); Avery Bradley, Boston, 5 (1); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 5 (1); Klay Thompson, Golden State, 5; Andrew Bogut, Golden State, 4; Chris Bosh, Miami, 4 (1); Luol Deng, Cleveland, 4 (1); Wesley Matthews, Portland, 4 (1); Tony Parker, San Antonio, 4 (1); Nicolas Batum, Portland, 3 (1); Stephen Curry, Golden State, 3 (1); Danny Green, San Antonio, 3 (1); Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Charlotte, 3; Shaun Livingston, Brooklyn, 3 (1); Victor Oladipo, Orlando, 3 (1); DeMarre Carroll, Atlanta, 2; Matt Barnes, L.A. Clippers, 2 (1); James Harden, Houston, 2; George Hill, Indiana, 2; Jeff Teague, Atlanta, 2; Dwyane Wade, Miami, 2 (1); Kemba Walker, Charlotte, 2; David West, Indiana, 2; Arron Afflalo, Orlando, 1; Corey Brewer, Minnesota, 1; Michael Carter-Williams, Philadelphia,1; Darren Collison, L.A. Clippers, 1; DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 1; Andre Drummond, Detroit, 1; Monta Ellis, Dallas, 1; Danny Granger, L.A. Clippers, 1; Draymond Green, Golden State, 1; Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City, 1; David Lee, Golden State, 1; Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 1; Rajon Rondo, Boston, 1.

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the true first team

^no Monta? :(

is CP3 a good defender? I always remember Tony Parker shitting on him

James Harden gets a vote, Splitter doesn't

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

Don't know how TP and cripples like Danny Granger can get votes but not Splitter, who's clearly one of the best defending Centers in the league.

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Splitter really should have gotten more votes.

He's the more versatile Spurs bigman defender at this point (I love Duncan, but he's nowhere near as good defending P&Rs nowadays), and despite not getting blocks, opposing players shoot a lower FG% at the rim on shots he's defending.

Splitter is a scrub who plays 10min a game against good teams, his non selection is a non issue tbh...