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Out of curiosity
Just ask the Manu haters on here.
I think at the end of this series total Finals wins in the Spurs-Heat series will stand at 7 apiece. Next year will be the rubber match.
Depends on how many game threads you start tbh.
Oh yeah, ask the Pop haters on here too!
I had no doubt at all until Tony's very public admission he 'might not be 100%,but I'll be playing.' Not a very optimistic announcement. He's got 3 more days of treatment before he'll know exactly where he's at, so why say that now?
Heat already 3peated.
these are just formalities
I would say the series will go like game of thrones and lebron will do to duncan what the mountain did to the viper.... but that already happened in game 6 last year. :lol
I don't agree with the Vegas odds or ESPN experts on this one.
This has all the writings of 1998 NBA finals, when a very determined Utah Jazz team went into the finals as slight favorites plus home court, they looked for revenge only to come up short after opening the series 1-0. I love Duncan but he is 38 against prime LeBron.
Spurs caught a lot of lucky breaks to be competitive against the Heat last year. Parker's amazing shots at end of games 1/6, Green's historical shooting and the mind games LeBron could not get out of until the last two games of the series. Because Heat has the top two players on the floor by a good margin and doesn't have a coach as stupid as Scott Brooks, they simply have a higher ceiling than the Spurs. LeBron is shooting historical percentages and I am afraid leaving him open for jumpers won't work this year.
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/03/sp...ng-possum.html
LeBron, like Jordan is doing everything he can to get extra motivation for his troops. He probably feels he got snubbed by MVP and all-defensive team selections, he is using Duncan's comments and ESPN picks as well. I hope for the best but I see a Miami in 6 if they play at max potential.
In fact, call me a pessimist, if Ibaka was healthy from the start OR if Erik Spoelstra was coaching the thunder, I don't think the Spurs would have made it out of the west. Throw in Tony's injury (anyone believing the Spurs doesn't need Tony near 100% to win is an idiot), I think it is at least 70%/30% Heat.
I always think we're gonna lose tbh
I'm WAY more confident about this year than last looking at the state of the two teams. The fact that we've already been through devastation and come back to this point taking the road we did makes me like our chances even more.
I have no idea at this point... People overreact to everything tbh... We fell to 1-2 to an 8th seed not too long ago and now people predict the Spurs will win in 5 against a prime LeBron and an healthy Wade with or without TP...
IMHO, if someone professes to be a Spurs fan and thinks they'll lose, then they are really not Spurs fans.
I think we have a shot to win. That's all you can ask for at this stage, tbh...
Spurs just beat a much better team than the Heat. Spoelstra is a much better coach than Brooks, and that may be the difference, but I give the Spurs the psychological edge. Plus the HCA, they should do it.
If Spurs play their type of basketball, they have a good shot. They need to play 48 minutes each game. Marco needs to get hot. Parker needs to play 100%. Diaw needs to be 2.0. Green needs to hit his shots on the road. Duncan needs an OKC Game 6 performance every game. Miami won't hand them the trophy just because Spurs want revenge. If the Spurs want to avenge themselves, they'll have to earn it.
I dunno. The Heat haven't been putting together full games - they'll need to play full 48 minutes, especially if the Spurs' bench is producing. If Marco gets hot, that game is automatically won - the Heat cannot match a Mills or a Marco starting to pump threes in. Parker will not be 100%. Diaw needs to continue how he's playing, no question. Green does not need to hit shots on the road - the Spurs can win this handily at home. Duncan needs to post up the weak interior Heat defense and treat them like David West did. Not all the time, but throughout.
If you wipe away the history of both teams in the last few years, didn't know the Heat was coming off two championships, and looked in context at how both teams have been playing this year and the last few weeks, and knowing one of them had HCA and has been dominant at home, which one would you pick?
The series definitely favors the Heat. I can't help but notice that Westbrook was near un-guardable in the WCF. He just blew past whatever defender that was on him and managed to get all the shots/layups he wanted. Westbrook just didn't play smart and forced too many plays. Now imagine a 6'8 Westbrook who is an elite passer and decision maker. That's just not fair. And that's only one of the weapons the Heat have. With Wade healthier and Bosh hitting his 3's in the playoffs, I don't know if the Spurs can guard the Heat effectively.
Spurs definitely look better than last year with a healthier Ginobili, Diaw playing his brains out, and Mills occasionally contributing a burst but it's hard to say that is enough. Everyone on the Spurs will have to play out of their minds to pull off an upset. They need last year's memory as motivation for blowouts. If the games go down to a knife fight, the Heat will win simply because they have the superior players that can execute.
we have a decent shot to win that's all we can ask for
Could go either way, really. Unlike some of the other series, these are just two great teams that can win on the road and that are mentally tough. Which team shoots the 3 better? Which team rebounds better? Which team defends best? That can change game to game, but either of these teams have the ability to do it four times in 7. Cross fingers it's the Spurs.
:lol Great song tbh.
I won't be shocked at any result. both teams are championship-caliber.
I like to say if Spurs play as good as they can and Heat do the same Spurs should win. After that my determining factor is defense usually the better defensive team will win.
I hope the Spurs win. I'm content that they have a chance and certainly won't be surprised if they lose to this Miami team.
where the fuck is robdiaz in this thread :lol
The Spurs have all the right tools to defeat Miami, but never underestimate the heart of a champion.
The Spurs got this. The key is to use their death to tire out Miami. You could tell fatigue caught up with OKC at the end of game 6.
I'm usually pretty pessimistic about the Spurs' chances but this year I don't know. The Heat looked beatable against the shitty Pacers and the shitty whomever they played in the 2nd round. They didn't look too hot tbh. However players that didn't produce all season seem to have banner nights against SA, so we'll see. I have no gut feeling about it. Just look at the blowouts the Spurs have administered in the playoffs this season. I don't recall ever seeing that from them but my playoff memory isn't that great (Spurs have been to so many I've almost lost track). One thing for sure, my wife thinks I much switch teams all the time because every year during our anniversary vacation I'm watching the NBA, and she just knows the Spurs haven't been in the playoffs for that many years.
I know every game is going to be close and that's all I can really predict from this armchair. The problem about making predictions for this series is that while we've basically seen the Spurs best basketball (game 7 of Dallas, most of Portland, Games 1,2, & 5 of OKC) we have yet to see Miami even approach their final form. They've had to play 1 decent quarter a game for 3 straight series so there really isn't any telling whether they will rise to meet the competition (as they have since Lebron came) and what that will look like if they do.
The Heat are not that good of a team, OKC in some ways are superior to them and do present more matchup difficulties than Miami and we found a way to win. Yeah, Ibaka wasn't playing in those first 2 games games, but I also think we would have found a way to win in 7 even with Ibaka... The Thunder never looked good in that series except games 3 and 4. In 6 they were too shaken offensively to ever go on a big tear, and that's how we won in 6.
I think we can lose, but I don't think we will lose. Not this time. We have better depth, a better coach, and more desire to win than they do. The Heat will be caught off-guard with just how good we will be tbh... They weren't tested all playoff long.
Miami might have LeBron, but we have some answers for him defensively and as the OKC series showed, you need more than two superstars to light up the basket to win a series. We basically won it last year when Wade and LeBron ran roughshod over us, it was Mike Miller, Shane Battier, and Ray Allen that did us in.
If we find a way to win the first two games in the series, our home games, then it might just be too much for Miami to come back from.
Here's hoping our guys can get it done this time. Hopefully sooner than 7, but I'll take that too.
What is going on in here?
I have been experiencing growing pains. Pretty sure this is my year.
^ hey guy... how are you feeling about the Finals?
It's all about TP to me. If he can play at a high level, then I think the Spurs win in 6 or less. If he's truly hobbled, Heat in 6. I don't think this goes 7 either way.
really, all you can as for it just to be put back in the same position. a do-over. spurs got the rarely afforded do-over, and you know how you seize the moment when life gives you a second chance at something you watched slip through your fingers and you thought you;d never get back. now all the sudden it's right there to grab again, you know you won't drop it again.
I picked the Heat in 6.
A lot of things must go in the Spurs favor to pull this off.
TP must be effective if he's able to go, Manu must play mistake-free as will the rest of the Spurs since the Heat's main attack is their dangerous transition game off those TO's. We're going to need the role players like Green , Mills, Belinelli (if he plays) to hit their open 3 point shots. Tiago has to be effective for the minutes he's out there. The Spurs must also reduce to LeBron shooting mid-range jumpers, which isn't his strongest offense.
The Heat's role players may not be as effective as last years team, but Dwyane Wade should be spry for the first couple of games in SA since he had nearly six days off since the Indiana series. I also expect Norris Cole to be more effective after playing so poorly in the finals last season.
The spurs have trouble with big fast and explosive guards ala Westbrook and Eliis, none of which miami has . And I dont think there front court has A shot blocker in the mold of ibaka. Miami has no rim protection and Miami's kryptonite is good big men like Mr Duncan and Splitter when he leaves his vagina in the locker room and Boris Diaw. Pop knows that and will develop a game plan to consistently exploit it and make miami adjust. I believe, do you?
Its most likely one of those years where one finalist looks poised to win it all and the other finalist is barely coasting and then bam. The Heat drop the hammer and the Spurs are down and out for the count.
Heat are scary IMO.
Last year I picked Miami in 6, this year I'm taking Spurs in 5. This has the makings of a short series, one that will surprise people like the 2004 Pistons vs Lakers series.
Too many World of Warcraft Spurs fan dorks on this message board.....
I doubt you will find a single Spurs fan who isn't worried, even if the pick them to sweep.
Anything can happen. It's sports.
On my side... I have no freaking idea... really.
Spurs are much more prepared to overcome an injured Parker, Boris can hurt their small line ups, Green and Leonard are huge on defense etc... Spurs are the team with the best shot against Miami but Lebron is a freak, most dominant player since Jordan so I don't know.
I'm just gonna enjoy the ride and root for the Spurs win or loss
The respect for Miami on this message board is out of control. People here, ironically enough, keep acting like being the defending champion is a good enough excuse to be given a free pass for pedestrian play during the regular season, when the Heat were 28 seconds away from losing to us 4-2 in last year's Final.
Look at the facts! The Heat just won 54 games in a dreadful Eastern conference. If they were the West, they would be tied with the Blazers for the 5 seed. And that's not even adjusting for a more difficult schedule. That's right. The Heat wouldn't have even had HCA for the first round.
And yet, people here worship them incessantly as if they were some juggernaut. The Spurs are the ones who are juggernauts right now. We just posted the best point differential in the NBA and routinely beat elite teams by 30+ points. Our body of work this season had been far, far more impressive than the Heat's.
Assuming good health and barring a major catastrophe, a la Game 6, we should win this series in 6 games or less.
The Spurs got taken to 7 when they faced a legit defense with a good scheme. And Miami has a better set of superstars than that scrappy Dallas squad.
That said, I think the Spurs are more focused and intent than they were in that early series. I expect them to maintain a smarter, team-oriented approach and ride their bench like they've done all postseason. Can't see them losing in spite of Miami's defense and star power.
I have no idea how good the heat team is because they've played against shit competition
Both have a shot to win and I wouldn't be shocked if we lose or we win. BUT, the Spurs have faced tougher challenge than the Heat and than their last year run( OKC,Blazers,Mavs>>>>Memphis,Warriors,LA) and they have shown that they can win without a 110% Parker so I'm more confident with us this time around.
^ it's cuz spurs are old lol
I'll just say this...any Spurs fan who thinks the Heat have no chance is overconfident. Any Spurs fan who thinks the Spurs have no chance is an insecure little bitch.
here are the stats on the history of being in this position:
http://www.ddjgames.com/b/wp-content...06/rematch.png
^seems like a few teams got their revenge.
The spurs are not able to handle the Heat.
Heat in 6
The Spurs didn't get all the way back here after 6 to lose. They have the advantage.
At this point, it's hard to tell. It will be a match up series. The biggest concern is beating the Heat's small line up. You can crush it with Tim down low on offense, but you are giving up three point shooting on the other end. Also, must be wary of injuries.
i always assume the worst and hope for the best, so I've thought about Spurs losing. When I'm feeling good and confident, I believe Spurs win.
If Spurs keep playing to their potential, I like their chances.