Obama administration official Brandon Friedman floats ‘psychopaths’ smear of Bergdahl’s platoon mates
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Obama administration official Brandon Friedman floats ‘psychopaths’ smear of Bergdahl’s platoon mates
http://twitchy.com/2014/06/05/obama-...platoon-mates/
Well, the guy is a former infantry officer with two Bronze Stars. If you think that sounds right, I won't argue with you.
Damn he's getting destroyed on Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by xrayzebra
+1Quote:
Here's the thing about Bergdahl and the Jump-to-Conclusions mats: What if his platoon was long on psychopaths and short on leadership?
What if he grew disillusioned with what he saw, didn't trust his leadership, and walked off? Legal? No. Worthy of sympathy? Maybe.
If that were the case, the soldiers in his platoon would have all the more reason to smear him publicly now.
Given other examples, it's not out of the realm of possibility--and more reason to withhold judgment until after an investigation.
I'm not a fan of such speculation, but this story could not be more unbalanced--with so many premature calls of "traitor."
LOL "destroyed on twitter"
From what analysis I have heard the unit was somewhat poorly managed.
Worthy of a statue? Nah.
But it occurs to me that the worse the right-wing can make this guy out to be, the better an issue it becomes to beat the Democratic president/candidates with.
That right there makes me very hesitant to accept the knee-jerk "traitor" schtick.
The guy has been through hell, whatever decision he made years ago that set him on this trajectory. Give him the discharge that the evidence says he deserves and let him live a long quiet life.
Sadly, the right wing slobbering nutjobs will use this poor schmuck as a chew toy because of their hysterical hatred of the black man in the white house.
Talk about collateral damage.
LOL at your +1Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Friedman claims to be no fan of speculation yet speculates the other soldiers were psychopaths.
And another LOL @ "this poor schmuck". Fuck him, drag his deserting ass through the mud. No sympathy from me whatsoever.
lol tsa wants nothing more than to try to shit on a double bronze star winner.
Actually I just enjoy shitting on those who side with him, looks like you made the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
eh, you're anxious to wild cobra this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
No big deal.
Do you plan on stating your opinion on the matter or are you just going to go with your usual MO?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I am content to wait and see what the actual facts are. I already voiced my opinion on the matter of the swap in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Unfortunately this thread isn't about the swap in general and is about an admin official calling the platoon psychopaths. The same platoon who lost men looking for a deserter pussy. Stick to the topic and state your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Again. I am content to wait for all the facts to be revealed.
You are content to just say anything.
That's fine. You are allowed to push your agenda in the absence of facts.
I'm not crazy about what the two time bronze star guy said, but he has seen more action than you.
and what agenda am I pushing concerning Friedman? I said he's a hypocrite for him doing nothing more than speculating on the mind state of the platoon. You can't spin what he or I said. Log off, enjoy the win, and stop acting like a faggot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
if you want to get technical you can see he was just stating possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
You don't have to get so pissy about a simple conversation.
Again, what agenda am I pushing concerning Friedman?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I think he is a deserter and possibly a traitor but i want him to get a fair sentence based on all the facts which I don't know. And if he did commit treason, it should be life in prison at the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
If somehow this guy did nothing wrong, this was still a terrible move though. It has nothing to do with hysterical hatred or racism like the left likes to portray. It has everything to do with the illegal and stupid actions taken by our president and/or his administration over and over and over.
Meh, the guy already has spent effectively 5 years in a rather unpleasant prison to the point where his health deteriorated. Sentence enough for anything short of murdering someone, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aztecfan03
I would assign a lot more credibility to people who rant about "illegal things" this president did, if the right-wing had taken Bush to task for the shit he did, or the thousands of soldiers that got killed because of his administrations rank incompetence in the Iraq occupation. That pisses me off to no end.
One guy walks off his post and the right wing media gets all slobbering mad, but thousands of dead service members gets ignored galls me. Bush should be in jail for the rest of his life. The fact that he is living a comfortable life, while the widows, widowers and children of the dead his incompetence killed struggle to this day.... :ihit
I'm sure you realize that more American soldiers have died in Afghanistan while Obama has been office than while Bush was in office, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
Yeah it's real funny you smug little son of a bitch. The day of the rope shall be glorious.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Do you always argue in dishonest, misleading ways or just this once? If you don't know why that question is dishonest, can you figure it out?Quote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
Bush's incompetence was essentially using vietnam era tactics, administrators that had no fucking clue about Iraq or how to run an occupation because they had no plan, further alienating the people they were supposed to help.
The surge was far more than a few extra troops, it was a massive admission that they fucked up for years.
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
and the surge failed, Petraeus' career-pimping PR to contrary
Sorry. the casualty rates don't support that assertion. The surge represented a fundamental shift in tactics that did more to save lives than any bomb-proofer hummvee.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Iraq is sure doing well now that Obama got us out of there, aren't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
It's the same answer as when we were there: Who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
The biggest mistake Barry can make is go back there. And he probably will make it.
I'm sorry, but I can't look at things that way. We should not be in isolationist mode with so much bullshit going on in the world. If we have the capacity to do something about it, we should.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
the reduction in violence was already on its way down months before Petraeus' stuntQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
the surge resulted in muhc higher death rates for US military, combattants, and non-comabattants, and severely turned the Iraqis against US military.
It has nothing to do with "isolationist mode"... it has to do with the fact it's not our war, and there's no national security interests at stake there. Build a virtual fence, and let them kill the fuck out of each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
The ME has always been a clusterfuck, and will continue to be a clusterfuck. They don't want us, they don't want democracy, they want to continue to be a shithole. Let them.
No, they aren't. They are imploding.Quote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
Sucks to be them.
Fucked up thing is that Bush made it our problem, so now we have to fucking do something to keep Iraq from becoming another failed state.