We had no business winning that game

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Originally Posted by Kidd K

OP, game was basically tied and we had the ball when LeBron went out. We were also hitting EVERYTHING. LeBron wasn't going to make that big a difference.

Let's not forget we lost Parker for more time in game 6 against the Thunder and we won anyway. There's no excuse.

But yes, we turned it over a fuckton. It would've been a blowout if we had average turnovers. Truth be told, Miami had no business being that close to us. We dominated that game up and down except for turnovers.

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The Chosen One not making a difference? I wonder who is a better defender between James and Ray Allen. Once James went away, so did San Antonio's turnovers.

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Originally Posted by Horry Hipcheck

The Spurs committed 22 turnovers and got only 11 points from Kawhi and Boris, Miami got almost 80 points from Wade, Bosh, Lebron, and Allen, and the Spurs won by 15. We can all sit here and talk about the Spurs had no business winning the game - but the Heat were never able to execute well enough to go up by more than 7 during that meltdown by SA. Missed shots and fouls by the Heat allowed the Spurs to stick around, and then the 4th happened.

Bottom line is, championship teams find ways to win games that they have no business winning. The Spurs had no business winning Game 6 of the 2003 Finals, and they found a way to come back. They suffered demoralizing blows in Games 3 and 4 in Detroit in 05, and found a way to win Games 5 and 7. They couldn't shake OKC in Game 6, and they found a way to get their first W in 10 tries at Chesapeake to win the West. Sometimes, the team will suck miserably. However, one of the defining characteristics of this Spurs team is that you never know where the X Factor will come from. One game ago, it was Diaw with 26 points. Tonight, he only had 2 and the Spurs won by 15. Champions figure out how to win when their most trusted resources and game plans fail.

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Spot on.

It was amazing the Heat could not pull away after such shitty 3rd quarter the Spurs had. They should've been up 15 by then. Amazing we goy that W. I see the Spurs winning game 2 too.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The Chosen One not making a difference? I wonder who is a better defender between James and Ray Allen. Once James went away, so did San Antonio's turnovers.

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SA already wasn't turning it over in the 4th and were picking up steam. And no, James isn't making a 17 point difference in the last 3 1/2 minutes. He only had 6 boards 3 assists and 4 TOs. What do you think James could do in 3 1/2 mins to make a 17 point difference?

Spurs got hot and the game was over. LeBron would not have effected the outcome very much.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Yes. You would've lost if the temperature in the building was normal.

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GO FISH....... SIR.

A W is a W.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The Heat rely on HGH.

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Fixed.

Got to feel good about winning any game after having 22 TOs.

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Originally Posted by DMC

I thought it was incredibly satisfying. Their guys last year bringing out the ropes in their arena to spur them on... that could have waited as well.

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underrated point. I always thought that was bushleague, bringing everything out as Spurs were up. Normally they just wait til it's settled. So everything doesn't go their way in regards to the temperature, some people start crying about it.

We turned the ball over 298,000,567,4325698776544333$&@&&/-23"""?89 times and still beat the Heat. If we get our act together we're pretty good team.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The Heat rely on their starters to play heavy minutes. Obviously, the Heat forced them to rely more on their bench.

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38 year old Tim Duncan ended up playing more minutes than any single heat player outside of Bosh

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

38 year old Tim Duncan ended up playing more minutes than any single heat player outside of Bosh

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no excuses on the A/C thing.

Its call hitting shots when you needed to and making the passes without turning over the ball.

The Spurs are 63-2 this year when having the lead going into the 3rd quarter (includes playoffs). The Spurs didn't have the lead tonight, but the latter states the Spurs can close out games and are the best in the NBA at it this year. Does anyone know if that stat is an NBA record or something for a season.

Mavfan butthurt :lol

23 turnovers is shocking. Even more shocking that we won. It seemed like the Spurs just gave up in the 3rd. Ray Allen, ffs?
We dodged a bullet.

We need more space out there. More movement. We see like okc if they don't generate turnovers their offense bogs down.

It's going according to plan. Defend home court at all costs. When Miami goes up big in game 3 or game 4, unleash the Red Rocket. Lebron and Wade will have no idea what to do and will tire themselves out trying to stop him. Series over.

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Originally Posted by sexinthatsx

I was so scared Green was going to blow that dunk like he does 90 percent of the time lol

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what???

Miami's defense has always ben better than lots of folks in here want to believe. THey have been in our passing lanes so often in so many games you just have to expect us to turn the ball over. That IS their defensive game plan against us.

I always predicted that these games would look ugly, and I am confident that last night's game is not the last of the ugly games we will see from the Spurs.

Regardless of ugly or pretty, regardless of who is on the court or not, I'll take any kind of win I can get.

The heat effected everybody, and it was noticeable in how sluggish most players on both sides of the court looked in the 4th quarter. Stupid, stupid, unforced turnovers from us almost did us in, but earlier in the game, it was the Miami defense getting in our passing lanes that was keeping us in check.

Miami played pretty damn good all things considered and their defense was on another level from what the Spurs have seen. However, they aren't OKC and their offense outside of some stretches doesn't terrify you like an OKC offense. Spurs offense is just so damn good, that when they play teams, even with great defense like MIA, they can usually hang around enough to at least have a shot at winning.

The only times that isn't really true is when SA has a lot of TO's, shoots poorly and the other team shoots well. Spurs had a ton of TO's, but still shot well. Basically, since the Spurs offense is the best in the league, they create so many good shots. Unless the other team gets significantly more shots than SA, it's very difficult to beat that offense.

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Originally Posted by vander

Their defense was ferocius and they constantly got good shots on offense.

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This. Even though the Heat aren't quite as athletic as the Thunder they are so damn aggressive and it forced us into making bad passes. Wade,Allen,and Lebron are great at baiting you into a pass and stealing it. Allen got ALOT of open looks that he will normally make. This series is going to be great.

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Originally Posted by DMC

The Heat fucked up by forcing what, 9 or 10 turnovers in the 3rd and still being up a handful of points. They should have buried the Spurs in the 3rd.

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I'll give the Heat a tad bit of credit for forcing a few of those turnovers, but for the most part we started doing that crappy jump-pass stuff where our passes are telegraphed so every Heat player knows exactly where the ball is going. We acted like the ball was on fire or something and no one wanted to hold onto it any longer than 2 seconds or something.

You cannot both have ball movement and have it stopped. The ball needs to move. They often make 5 or 6 passes in just as many seconds. There was no rotations early so guys were trapped easily and people were forced into turnovers. Leonard was trapped every time he touched the ball and Boris just left him hanging. They couldn't get into sets because Tony was walking the ball up the floor for the most part. It's amazing to me that the PG will still run off and leave the out of bounds guy back court with no one to throw to (Heat did it as well).

Sloppy play, basically. Yes the Heat forced the turnovers. I doubt the Spurs turn it over 22 times if they are just running drills.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Miami played pretty damn good all things considered and their defense was on another level from what the Spurs have seen. However, they aren't OKC and their offense outside of some stretches doesn't terrify you like an OKC offense. Spurs offense is just so damn good, that when they play teams, even with great defense like MIA, they can usually hang around enough to at least have a shot at winning.

The only times that isn't really true is when SA has a lot of TO's, shoots poorly and the other team shoots well. Spurs had a ton of TO's, but still shot well. Basically, since the Spurs offense is the best in the league, they create so many good shots. Unless the other team gets significantly more shots than SA, it's very difficult to beat that offense.

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Exactly. Compare the score last night to any of the Miami games thus far in the playoffs.

Tiago and Tim had lots of easy shots because Miami is a perimeter based defense. We will have more turnovers but easier shots as well. We had 30 assists as well. We are not going to have 23 again hopefully but we will have to play very, very well to avoid double digits. Or just shoot a bunch of crappy one on one shots.