Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Kidd K
Tim Duncan had DRob to mentor him though and explain about the pains of loss. Who did DRob have? Yeah exactly, he had to carry the team with MVP numbers from day 1 until he got hurt and the team sucked so bad they got the top pick and with it, Tim Duncan.
DRob deserves a lot more credit than he's getting here. I am starting to wonder when some of you guys started watching the Spurs with all the dumps you guys are taking on him.
Spurfan should never trash Duncan, Robinson, or Gervin.
Exactly. Dave was unbelievably good. But that was a lifetime ago and only a few of us here ever witnessed it. That's obvious.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
TDfan2007
Someone already posted the Doc Rivers interview here, so I won't repost, but David has repeatedly recounted stories about how he couldn't guard Timmy during that 1997 training camp.
Again, Robinson is a top 20 all time player, and one of the most athletic players in the history of the game who also possessed a great faceup game. HOWEVER, Timmy was no slouch athletically, was more coordinated than David, more skilled, had just as good of a faceup game (if not better), and a much better post game.
These comments are no knock on David, a guy who helped create the foundation for the Spurs as a model franchise, but Timmy was just that good in his prime. Again, we won championships with a high post iso as our go-to play.
And for all of those knocking David's teammates and going on and on about how much help Timmy had. Please look at our rosters from 2002-2004.
Starting 5 2002:
Parker (rookie)
Steve Smith (about to retire)
Bruce Bowen
Timmy
DRob (injured for a good portion of the playoffs and was essentially useless against the Lakers in the semifinals)
2003:
Parker (still inconsistent, nowhere near where he would be later)
Jackson (our 2nd best player, cut by the Nets the year before)
Bowen
Timmy
DRob (still a defensive anchor, but a shell of his former self due to injuries/father time)
2004:
Parker (started to find himself in this season, but still couldn't shoot to save his life)
Ginobili (started to find himself as well, but still erratic and wouldn't erupt until a year later)
Bowen
Timmy
Nesterovich (average, run-of-the-mill center...and that's being nice)
In those 3 seasons the Spurs were ranked no lower than 3rd in the West, won one championship, and came damn close in 04. That 2002 team also went toe to toe with the 3-peat Lakers, but couldn't hold a lead in the 4th quarter to save their lives.
Yer on crack. Dave was a top 20 player yet he sucks compared to Tim? Lol
Also, look at that roster. Bowen. Bowen. Bowen. 'Nuff said.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
This is great.
I mean i dont care about 1on1. Timmy isnt 1on1 type guy.
But it just confirms why hes the greatest PF of all time and not a C. His entire offensive reportoire and spacing is that of a PF.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Kidd K
Tim Duncan had DRob to mentor him though and explain about the pains of loss. Who did DRob have? Yeah exactly, he had to carry the team with MVP numbers from day 1 until he got hurt and the team sucked so bad they got the top pick and with it, Tim Duncan.
DRob deserves a lot more credit than he's getting here. I am starting to wonder when some of you guys started watching the Spurs with all the dumps you guys are taking on him.
Spurfan should never trash Duncan, Robinson, or Gervin.
I don't think anyone is trashing Dave. Him and Tim just have completely different playing styles. Dave had to rely on athleticism, whereas Tim has better footwork and skill.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Skull-1
^^^^ Shut up moron. In their prime..... Dave is better than Tim. Period.
Not not not not even close. Ever. On any planet.
:lol Wow...that was the shittiest retort I've ever seen in a serious discussion. You literally just said "no", called me names, and re-stated your assertion without any supporting logic or evidence. I guess you have none.
Anyway, I wasn't trying to shit on Dave by any means. I consider him a top 20 player all time. But I hold TD in such high esteem that I cannot give Dave this one. Why are you so disrespectful to the GOAT PF/C?
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
IrisHockey
rofl betting against your team at every opportunity and then to trying to play it off like it's a shtick
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Originally Posted by
DMC
I've never bet a dime against the Spurs.
The Doctor
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Sec24Row7
There was an interview back in 98 by Doc Rivers with both Tim and David on the couch and that's not exactly how it was playing out.
I think in that interview they were talking about Tim running with the younger guys and David with the older ones and it was clear Tim was leading the young guns to a whooping over the old guys..
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
TDfan2007
Someone already posted the Doc Rivers interview here, so I won't repost, but David has repeatedly recounted stories about how he couldn't guard Timmy during that 1997 training camp.
Again, Robinson is a top 20 all time player, and one of the most athletic players in the history of the game who also possessed a great faceup game. HOWEVER, Timmy was no slouch athletically, was more coordinated than David, more skilled, had just as good of a faceup game (if not better), and a much better post game.
These comments are no knock on David, a guy who helped create the foundation for the Spurs as a model franchise, but Timmy was just that good in his prime. Again, we won championships with a high post iso as our go-to play.
And for all of those knocking David's teammates and going on and on about how much help Timmy had. Please look at our rosters from 2002-2004.
Starting 5 2002:
Parker (rookie)
Steve Smith (about to retire)
Bruce Bowen
Timmy
DRob (injured for a good portion of the playoffs and was essentially useless against the Lakers in the semifinals)
2003:
Parker (still inconsistent, nowhere near where he would be later)
Jackson (our 2nd best player, cut by the Nets the year before)
Bowen
Timmy
DRob (still a defensive anchor, but a shell of his former self due to injuries/father time)
2004:
Parker (started to find himself in this season, but still couldn't shoot to save his life)
Ginobili (started to find himself as well, but still erratic and wouldn't erupt until a year later)
Bowen
Timmy
Nesterovich (average, run-of-the-mill center...and that's being nice)
In those 3 seasons the Spurs were ranked no lower than 3rd in the West, won one championship, and came damn close in 04. That 2002 team also went toe to toe with the 3-peat Lakers, but couldn't hold a lead in the 4th quarter to save their lives.
Nice touch to add your own commentary in parenthesis in an attempt to strengthen your argument. Now show David's teammates.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Skull-1
Dave was an amazing talent. Nobody in the NBA today is even close to him. Physically, maybe James, with the help of steroids. But James lacks the intelligence, class, and character of a Robinson.
I actually see some of DRob in Blake, tbh.... two big men with freakish athleticism for their positions, both especially renowned for their passing skills, and both share the distinction of being unanimous rookies of the year too....
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Skull-1
Yer on crack. Dave was a top 20 player yet he sucks compared to Tim? Lol
Also, look at that roster. Bowen. Bowen. Bowen. 'Nuff said.
:lol you're kind of overreacting. Nobody said that David sucks compared to Timmy. David is top 20, but Timmy is one of the 10 best ever. Again, no disrespect to the admiral, but Timmy was better.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
Hoops Czar
Nice touch to add your own commentary in parenthesis in an attempt to strengthen your argument. Now show David's teammates.
Sean was better than any player that I listed...but I'm not arguing that David had better teammates, I'm just stating that Timmy wasn't always surrounded by All Stars like his deflectors like to point out.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
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Originally Posted by
hitmantb
David was far and away the most athletic, talented Spurs player.
But he didn't have the same desire to win as Duncan. The way he carried a team with no secondary star in 2013 was beyond what David could do in his prime. The way Duncan willed himself from 2011 first round exit, humiliated by Randalph/Gasol, to two NBA finals appearances required a divorce plus more commitment than David ever could put in. Duncan is much closer to Kobe/Jordan in the desire to win, David always struck me as "basketball is just a game" and family first.
1v1 is hard to say, 2003 Duncan beat Shaq (albeit at tail end of his prime) 1v1. But prime David had no problem with young Shaq either. I would call it a wash.
Tims drive is like few others out there! That is the flat out truth! I agree there.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
They are both one of a kind once in a lifetime players. Dave was just such a phenom, and his athletic talent does remind me of Blake, but Blake will never have the defensive dominance of Dave. I love TD but I'd pick David over Tim one on one. If I'm choosing a franchise player, obviously pick Timmy.
Re: David Robinson said He Beat Timmy in his PRIME.
To me it's one of those things where Timmy would be taking notes with every loss and coming up with an ever changing gameplan. Now D-Rob supposedly has genius level intellect but he doesn't have the skill set Tim does to mix and match things up. Tim was/is an extremely cerebral player. If Dave was blowing bye him he is going to give him that jump shot, if Dave is killing him in the post (Unlikely) he will figure out a way to stop his go to move. He would think it all out until eventually Tim was dominating the matchup IMO..
