Will Fox call these right-wing white gun fellators "terrorists"?

Law enforcement officials are looking into whether a man and woman who killed two Las Vegas police officers and a third person before killing themselves Sunday had links to the white supremacy movement, according to a report on Monday.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal, citing city law enforcement sources, said investigators discovered paraphernalia associated with white supremacists, including swastika symbols, but it was not clear where the items was found.

The newspaper's report also said the shooters covered the officers' bodies with something featuring the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag. The yellow flag, which contains an image of a coiled snake and the words "Don't tread on me," is associated with the conservative Tea Party political movement.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0EJ0UQ20140609

hilariouis. Bundy's supporters, etc SUPPORT armed attacks on the govt, but when it really happens? :lol

Let's see how Fox and right-wing hate media, NRA, spin these murders.

lol of course Alex Jones says it's staged.

Flashback: When The Religious Right And Republicans Quashed An Investigation Into Right-Wing Extremism -

Reports that the married couple who shot and killed two police officers, a bystander and themselves in Las Vegas this week were motivated by right-wing extremism have highlighted one of the more troubling trends in even the “mainstream” Right — denial that violent right-wing extremism even exists.

As Brian mentioned earlier today, a conservative pundit’s claim on the same day as the shooting that far-right violence is a “complete and total bogeyman” echoes the objections the attacks that many right-wing groups lobbed at a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report on domestic extremism. Right-wing groups and their allies in Congress created a fuss about the report, claiming that it was an attack on conservatives, Christians and veterans.

The American Family Association, Concerned Women for America and the American Center for Law and Justice piled on. Republicans in Congress demanded an investigation into how the report had come to pass. Spotting a good fundraising opportunity, Liberty Counsel even printed out “Proud to be a Right-Wing Extremist” cards to distribute to its members.

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Eventually, the pressure led DHS to retract the report and later to cut back the team that produced it. Two years later, speaking publicly for the first time, the analyst who wrote the report — who happened to be a conservative Republican Mormon — said that the attacks on his unit’s work had undermined law enforcement’s ability to address the “growing and dangerous problem” of violent right-wing extremism.

What happened at DHS as a result of the criticism?

My team was dissolved. All training courses and briefings presentations were stopped. DHS leaders made it increasingly difficult to release another report on this topic.

Why would DHS leaders dissolve your team and stop these analytic activities?

The subject had become too politically charged. As a result, DHS leaders adopted a risk adverse approach toward this issue. Perhaps they thought it was a matter of organizational preservation.

Do you think the dissolution of your unit that you discuss has negatively affected State and local law enforcement?

Certainly. There is one less agency to assist state and local law enforcement with this growing and dangerous problem at a time of heightened activity.

Yet, as recently as last year, Religous Right groups were still using their bogus criticism of the report as a talking point against the Obama administration.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...wing-extremism

So the bystander they killed was legally carrying? The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun?

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Apparently he didn't know there were two of them and the wife dropped him.

It's difficult to consider this anything but an act of terra.

Or a triple homicide. But whatever. All murder is terrorism now I guess.

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Or a triple homicide. But whatever. All murder is terrorism now I guess.

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You don't think this fits the definition?

Why not?

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Or a triple homicide. But whatever. All murder is terrorism now I guess.

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murder for political, "revolutionary" objectives is definitely terrorism

it's hard to keep straight, but these seem to be the rules of thumb for multiple/mass killings (and even for attempted/failed/merely intended killings):

1. Muslim perp= terrorist
2. White perp = mental illness
3. Black perp = culture of violence

related: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/police-...rthouse/ngFsZ/

and of course, the intimidated MSM is calling this yet-another right-wing shoot-em-up an "isolated case".

Just like week, some govt-hatin inbred in GA got locked and loaded and drove his truck into a govt building.

For some reason, the myth that law enforcement will lay down their guns and defect to the white supremacist paranoid racist govt-hatin militia was yet again proven to be a paranoid myth.

That GA snake? he got "tread on", he be daid.

Will the FBI, sheriffs, police harass ALL these right-wing assholes' friends, family, acquaintances, websites visited, cellphone/txt traffic, churches etc, etc as they do with Muslim terrorists they entrap? fuck no.

won't call them terrorists, won't even call them right-wing

Why Is Network Television So Afraid of Admitting That Many of America's Terror Attacks Are 'Right Wing?'

the suspects stripped the dead officers of their weapons and ammunition, before covering their bodies with the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag, which depicts a coiled snake and the words “Don’t Tread on Me” – a flag that is informally adopted by the Republican Tea Party.

It takes no degree of sophisticated insightfulness to conclude the obvious: that the Millers are right wing extremists, identifying with Tea Party anti-government views, coupled with a severe case of Obama Derangement Syndrome. It’s also reported that the Millers were among those in attendance at the Cliven Bundy ranch, when right wing extremists, egged on by Fox News, pointed assault rifles at U.S. federal agents.

But don’t expect CNN to include the prefix “right wing” to the use of the word extremism or terrorism, for their, and the mainstream media’s, fear of the right wing hysteria machine is ever present and always palpable. In fact, CNN refused to identify the Tea Party flag. Dan Simon of CNN went so far as to avoid the far right’s wrath that he said the killers “left behind some type of flag with some kind of insignia.” The cable network’s 24/7 ticker feed reads, “Killers had extremist views.”

In the first 36 hours since the shooting, CNN has used the following words and terms to discuss the shooting: “extremism,” “extremist domestic groups,” “radical groups,” anti-government groups and individuals,” but not once has the term “right wing” or any mention of the Tea Party been uttered.
Regardless, CNN’s cowardice hasn’t stopped the right wing moving into a defensive or preemptive crouch, with conservative columnist Horace Cooper claiming on the same day of the shooting that far-right violence is a “complete and total bogeyman,” and is “an attempt to marginalize opponents of the Obama administration.”

From the recent shooting of an airport police officer at LAX to last month’s shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Kansas City, and to the murders at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, right wing terrorism is now the new normal, and it’s a safe assumption that tragic, indiscriminate acts of violence, of this ilk, will become increasingly prevalent as white minority politics becomes increasingly shill at the same time demographics run counter to the politics of the far right. In other words, these “well armed militiamen,” so lovingly embraced by everyone from Sarah Palin to Rand Paul, will feel their cause has become inversely desperate.

Here’s an interesting and sobering fact: that when it comes to domestic terrorism, you are far more likely to be murdered by a far Right-wing American than a Muslim American, but the term “terrorist” remains reserved exclusively for acts of political violence carried out by Muslims

Violence carried out by far Right groups or individuals, which have racism as a central component of their ideology, is of similar magnitude to that of Jihadist violence. In the years 1990 to 2010, there were 145 acts of political violence committed by the American far Right, resulting in 348 deaths. By comparison, 20 Americans were killed over the same period in acts of political violence carried out by Muslim-American civilians.

The Southern Poverty Law Center calculates there are 939 far right-wing hate groups across the country today, including neo-Nazis, Klansmen, white nationalists, neo-Confederates, racist skinheads, border vigilantes and others.

“Since 2000, the number of hate groups has increased by 56 percent. This surge has been fueled by anger and fear over the nation’s ailing economy, an influx of non-white immigrants, and the diminishing white majority, as symbolized by the election of the nation’s first African-American president…. The number of Patriot groups, including armed militias, skyrocketed following the election of President Obama in 2008 – rising 813 percent, from 149 groups in 2008 to an all-time high of 1,360 in 2012. The number fell to 1,096 in 2013,” the SPLC calculates.

http://www.alternet.org/media/why-ne...ter1001024&t=5

Returning troops help KKK build paramilitary force to ‘retake’ US in coming race war

The Ku Klux Klan plans to begin military-style combat training under the direction of military troops returning home from overseas deployments, according to a Barcroft Media report.
The notorious hate group has been attempting to recruit new members – children, in particular – in recent months, and the Loyal White Knights faction has begun preparations for a long-awaited race war.

“We’re going to do something a little different for probably the next couple of years to try to get our men and women ready for the upcoming battle that we’re about to take upon us, and this is something that no Klan has ever done and we’re going to start it,” said one Klan leader during a rally in Parkersburg, West Virginia. “All our boys are finally coming back home from the military, which is good, and we’re getting a lot more military members to join.”

Klan members have dropped leaflets andcandy in neighborhoods across the United States, and the group has also used social media in hopes of attracting teenage recruits.

Other young people are recruited by their own parents to join the group.

“I enjoy days like today, because I like being around people, not disgusting people, not drug addicts,” said one hooded boy whose parents brought him and his brother to the Parkersburg rally – which drew about 40 people.

The boy’s mother said she believes black and Hispanic students take drugs from their parents and sell them at her son’s school.

“Their parents are so worried about doing drugs than providing for their own children, that’s what I think,” said the woman, who was wearing full Klan regalia like her husband and two sons.
Barcroft reported that Klan leaders claim existing members serving in the military will begin training other members in armed combat, hand-to-hand combat, and survival skills.

The group, which has an estimated 6,500 members, has never before trained its members in combat tactics.

“We got police officers in the Klan, we got lawyers, we got doctors – your next-door neighbor could be in the Klan, and you’d never know it,” said James Moore, grand dragon for Virginia.

Klan expert Brian Levin said the biggest threat comes from individual members trying to make a name for themselves, rather than an army affiliated with the hate group.

“This is something we’ve seen throughout recent decades, where the Klan has gone through cycles, where they’ve armed themselves, gotten in trouble, then mellowed out and then armed themselves again,” Levin said.

He said Klan members hope to signal their social relevance by arming themselves and warning of racial unrest.

“The ultimate goal for myself is to have our membership get to the point where we can affect change through the political system,” said one Klan official. “Right now, our numbers aren’t quite good enough.”

But members are confident their message will attract new followers.

“Black people, white people, we’re all getting tired of the government, and pretty soon you can see the government collapse,” Moore said. “And when the government keeps on sending their money over to Israel, and it finally collapses, you can see the Klan take it back and make this nation the way it needs to be.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/0...e+Raw+Story%29

If these paranoid shitbags were black or ragheaded Muslims, would they be so free to do military training?

They didn't have beards.

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if i were a leftist i would be really scared right now

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Why?

Because the moment is upon us

no, I won't spell out what moment.

Because you're full of shit.

>shill trying to bait people into committing crimes

Why are you changing the color?

That doesn't mean anything.

If you feel like committing crimes because some morons shot some people you're an idiot and the worst kind of follower.

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Green indicates emo :lol

How Fox News Covers Right-Wing Cop Killers

Primetime hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity both ignored the shocking cop-killer story last night, while Megyn Kelly devoted four sentences to it.

(By contrast, the story covered extensively during CNN and MSNBC's primetime.)

Fox talkers on Monday were still far more interested in debating the prisoner swap of Bowe Bergdahl than they were examining the political ambush in Las Vegas.

For Fox News, the Las Vegas killing spree represents a toxic mix of guns, far-right insurrectionism, tea party implications, and the Cliven Bundy ranch standoff.

For Fox News, the story about right-wing gun violence and the seeds of a bloody political revolution present all kinds of problems for the channel and its outspoken hosts, some of whom have previously championed limitless gun rights, insurrectionism, the Tea Party, and racist rancher Bundy.

In the 36 hours after the shooting, Fox News tread lightly around the Las Vegas story, producing regular news updates about the crime spree. But Fox provided almost no commentary, no context, and certainly no collective blame for the executions.

And that's how Fox News deals with right-wing domestic terrorism in America, when it even bothers to acknowledge the killings and the crimes.

(The channel barely covered Georgia's courthouse siege last week.) At Fox, the deadly and disturbing events are treated as isolated incidents that are mostly void of politics. And more importantly, on Fox the perpetrators are always portrayed as lone gunmen (and women) who do not represent any cultural or political movement.

But when Fox covers breaking U.S. news events involving terror acts by Arabs or Muslims? Recall that in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing last year it was a Fox talker who suggested American mosques be bugged and other Constitutional rights for Muslims be eliminated.

And it was on Fox that viewers were told, "not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims." It's where there was a concerted effort to blame the larger Muslim community for the isolated event.

The obvious double standard is not only unfair but it's misguided, as homegrown right-wing terrorists in America have proven to be a deadlier threat over the last decade. As CNN's Peter Bergen reported earlier this year, since 9/11, "extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies, including white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants, have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06...killers/199651

:lol

White supremacists distribute fliers at Ft. Carson asking soldiers to fight in coming race war

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Law enforcement officials in Colorado are investigating after soldiers at Fort Carson found materials trying to convert them into white supremacists to fight for a “white nation” in a coming race war.
According to The Army Times, photos of recruitment fliers were discovered by someone claiming to be a paratrooper at Fort Carson, who posted them to Reddit on Tuesday.

The Reddit user said that he and other paratroopers had “found about a dozen sealed plastic bags blowing around Fort Carson with this flyer and a CD inside.”

“Ever wonder if you are fighting for the right side?” the flier asks, urging the soldiers to help “secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.”

Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, told The Army Times that military personnel were valuable to white supremacists groups because of their training and tactical skills.

“It’s like, do the Yankees want a great pitcher,” Levin explained. “Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups are happy to have people commit acts of violence in the name of their ideology without being a card carrying member of their group — lone wolves.”

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/1...e+Raw+Story%29

Repugs showing their True Colors! :lol

Fox and Repug Congress will vehemently condemn these sheet holes. ???

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So revolutions are all terrorism by definition?

So much for Marxism.

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So much for Marxism.

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sure, any established order being revolted against would consider the revolutionaries as terrorists, which I don't think was word used in Marx's times.

Marx's social/political/economic analysys were correct, and the USA's 1945 - 1975 period when the high taxes, financial regulations going back to the 1930s, kept VRWC power and 1% wealthy in check is a historical anomaly.

We have now returned to the usual corrupt oligarchy/plutocracy in USA ushered in by the VRWC starting with Lewis Powell's seminal memo. Hell, even in the early 1960s as reaction to Dem/Catholic JFK, the Kock Bros father helped build, promote the paranoid, extremist John Birch Society out of Repug Orange County CA.

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sure, any established order being revolted against would consider the revolutionaries as terrorists, which I don't think was word used in Marx's times.

Marx's social/political/economic analysys were correct, and the USA's 1945 - 1975 period when the high taxes, financial regulations going back to the 1930s, kept VRWC power and 1% wealthy in check is a historical anomaly.

We have now returned to the usual corrupt oligarchy/plutocracy in USA ushered in by the VRWC starting with Lewis Powell's seminal memo. Hell, even in the early 1960s as reaction to Dem/Catholic JFK, the Kock Bros father helped build, promote the paranoid, extremist John Birch Society out of Repug Orange County CA.

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But, but, but that's just because free markets and laissez faire capitilism have never been tried.

more right-wing white terrorism

WA white supremacist shoots officer 7 times, possibly paying Aryan Brotherhood ‘debt’


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A Washington state white supremacist who was arrested for shooting a Vancouver police officer seven times may have been paying back a debt to the Aryan Brotherhood.

According to KPTV, James Sapp leaned out the window of his black pickup and began shooting when motorcycle officer Dustin Goudschaal stopped him on Monday.

Sapp fled, but crashed his truck just a few blocks from where he had been stopped. Timothy Plantenberg, who was a passenger in the truck, later told police that he had grabbed the steering wheel to force the truck to crash.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/02/wa-white-supremacist-shoots-officer-7-times-possibly-paying-aryan-brotherhood-debt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

Just an isolated incident by a (NRA preferred scapegoat) "mentally ill" loner. Nothing wider.

Sovereign citizen movement seen by US law enforcement as top terrorist threat

In a new study conducted by researchers tasked with studying of the root causes and consequences of terrorism in the U.S. and abroad, the sovereign citizen movement was perceived to be the gravest terrorist threat, rivaling Islamist extremists and militia/patriot groups.

According to National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism —better known as START— sovereign citizens were the top concern of law enforcement, even as a belief that some domestic groups including the KKK, Christian Identity, and neo-Nazis represent less of an actual terrorist threat when compared to a previous study.

The report, complied by START researchers David Carter, Steven Chermak, Jeremy Carter and Jack Drew, is drawn from surveys with more than 364 officers representing 175 state, local and tribal law enforcement agencies. Those surveys asked respondents to to gauge their perception on the threat of terrorism, the nature of information-sharing, and their belief as to whether their agencies are prepared to deal with terrorist attacks.

In the report, found here (.pdf), researchers write: “…there is wide variation about what groups are perceived to be a serious terrorist threat. Law enforcement is much more concerned about sovereign citizens, Islamic extremists, and militia/patriot group members compared to the fringe groups of the far right, including Christian Identity believers, reconstructed traditionalists (i.e., Odinists), idiosyncratic sectarians (i.e.,survivalists), and members of doomsday cults.”

Noting that, in the 2006-07 survey, law enforcement’s top concern was Islamic extremists, the report goes on, “The change is interesting as there was significant concern about the resurgence of the radical far right (as evidenced by the 2006 – 07 survey, as well as additional concerns raised after the 2008 election of President Barack Obama), but it appears as though law enforcement is, at present, less concerned about these groups.”

The report adds, “Such changing perceptions about what is a serious terrorist threat is an important finding because identifying and prioritizing a threat is akin to hitting a moving target and evolves as new intelligence, data, and events develop.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/02/sovereign-citizen-movement-seen-by-us-law-enforcement-as-top-terrorist-threat-study/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

so you bubbas here better watch out. John Law is on your ass.

Here's some terrorism, since incitement of assassination of Obama (and Cameron) is clearly murder with a political objective

Endorsing Obama's Assassination Isn't Enough To Keep This Voice Off Of Fox New


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Fox News and Fox Business have continued to host former CIA officer and CBS News analyst Michael Scheuer after he endorsed the assassination of President Obama. Scheuer's latest appearance on the August 1 edition of Fox & Friends suggests his profile on the networks may have escalated in recent months.

Scheuer has a long history of extreme rhetoric and arguably reached his most fevered pitch when he gave his stamp of approval to the idea that Obama, as well as British Prime Minister David Cameron, should be assassinated. Scheuer concluded a December 2013 column with advice for the constituents of Cameron and Obama (emphasis added):

As they head further down the road of losing wars and wrecking Anglo-American liberties, Messrs Obama and Cameron and their supporters in all parties would do well to read the words of the great 17th century English republican Algernon Sidney, a man who was revered on both sides of the Atlantic, who greatly influenced America's founders, and who was executed by the British Crown for what it described as sedition. "There must therefore be a right," Sidney wrote,

Just 10 days after the column was published, Scheuer appeared on Fox Business' Lou Dobbs Tonight to accuse Hillary Clinton of "effectively murdering" the Americans who died during the 2012 attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08...gh-to-k/200296

And the rousable rabble, bubbas, rednecks, ignorant, mentally declined, old white folks are wonderfully impressed that this rabble rouser is an "intellectual" who quotes obscure historical figures and therefore must be credible.

Come and take it kike.