Do Spurs need a major move?

In some ways the Spurs Championship team transcended money...

Just because we have money does not mean we need to spend it.

We're all gonna die and the team is going to be shipped to Kentucky.

:pctoss

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

While emotionally you may be fidgety because Miami is making moves, that emotion is not translating into effective arguments about what the Spurs are failing to do.

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First of all what are you talking about. Tell me what my argument is and how it is not effective. All I was saying is that the spurs have some weaknesses that they have not addresed. Later on you write the exact same thing I did.
They are still week at SF and PG. Have they signed a SF or PG yet? No, hence the reason I said I am not overly impressed with the summer SO FAR. I alos said that I assume they will address it coming up. If they do I will happy. If not, then yes, I will be unhappy with the summer.

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

The Spurs' weaknesses are: backup small forward and third-string point guard. These are not weaknesses that require flashy, high-profile moves that get weeks of media coverage.

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When did I say that they needed to make a high profile move?

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Originally Posted by benjirh

First of all what are you talking about. Tell me what my argument is and how it is not effective. All I was saying is that the spurs have some weaknesses that they have not addresed. Later on you write the exact same thing I did.

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You said they needed to start planning for the future by drafting young players, implying that they have not done so.

I replied that they have an entire farm league of young players developing overseas.

I rebutted your contention that they needed to sign young players to two- and three-year deals by noting that the Spurs' young guys get more playing time and experience by staying overseas until the Spurs are ready for them.

All those thoughts were communicated in plain English. Looking back it was kind of at a seventh-grade reading level. That might be kind of tough. Is English perhaps your second or third language? Is that the problem here? The Spurs do have a lot of international fans, after all.

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They are still week at SF and PG. Have they signed a SF or PG yet? No, hence the reason I said I am not overly impressed with the summer SO FAR. I alos said that I assume they will address it coming up. If they do I will happy. If not, then yes, I will be unhappy with the summer.

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Their "weaknesses" are really quite minor and can be taken care of with veteran-minimum signings anytime between now and training camp. There are more players available than there is money to pay them around the league, thanks to our friend "amnesty."

Your "disappointment" is really just impatience because you don't know who they're going to end up with. There's really no urgency right now to make those decisions. They still have a lot of options through which to sift.

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When did I say that they needed to make a high profile move?

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That part probably should not have been directed at you, though if you review the thread title it is germane.

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

You said they needed to start planning for the future by drafting young players, implying that they have not done so.

I replied that they have an entire farm league of young players developing overseas.

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Perhaps I should have been more clear. I meant that I was hoping for some young impact bench players this year. Guys we can start working into the system now. I am sure there are some good guys overseas that we have drafted, but am a little leary that if they ever do come back over they will be IR fodder for a couple years and then be done.

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

Their "weaknesses" are really quite minor and can be taken care of with veteran-minimum signings anytime between now and training camp. There are more players available than there is money to pay them around the league, thanks to our friend "amnesty."

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First of all I never said their weaknesses were major. I am fine with vet min guys to a point, but there were also good young guys who can fill the same position, give us the same production, and be better fit for the future. Those are the guys we should be getting. As far as the amnesty cuts go, I think it will be harder to sign guys now than before the amnesty. Once Finley is gone, all the teams that need SG/SF players will be throwing out the money. Making it a little tougher for us to sign them.

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

Your "disappointment" is really just impatience because you don't know who they're going to end up with. There's really no urgency right now to make those decisions. They still have a lot of options through which to sift.

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Did you even read what I wrote? Every time I said "so far", I know how FAgency works. I know that you can get very solid reserves later on. I even said that I assumed the team will sign people, and that I will probably be happy. My response was to the people that said we needed to do nothing because we are the champions. I was challenging that thought. So thanks for trying to analyze how I was feeling by reading two posts. But maybe read a little closer next time.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

With all Miami is doing, i ask do they need a major move in the next few weeks to counter some of what Miami has done. I don't think that just resigning Brown will be enough, Miami is suddenly much deeper than the spurs, with Walker, and Finley two near all stars coming off the bench, spurs may need to make a trade to get some more depth, and what are the pacers and pistons doing, why are they letting the heat just load up like this with no response at all?

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Finley hasn't decided on Miami yet, he still might go to Detroit.

I'm sorry, but exactly how does anyone say that the Spurs are weak at point guard and get away with it? I remember when Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro were the point guard rotation with this team. I remember when we were relieved to draft Cory Alexander. Beno Udrih might have made dumb mistakes on a couple of occasions, but I can't think of very many teams that wouldn't trade their backup point guard for him, and there are some that would trade their starter for him.

With a healthy Duncan and a fully established Manu we are still the team to beat and the roster is plenty deep. We don't need to get raped for Rasho, but if a reasonable trade opportunity for someone other than the big three comes up, so be it. If not, playing the cards we have does not bother me one tiny bit.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

With all Miami is doing, i ask do they need a major move in the next few weeks to counter some of what Miami has done?

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Not according to John Hollinger of ESPN:

Spurs still the "favorite till further notice."
"Oberto is productive big man from Europe."
It's goint to "take alot to get past such a talented and cohesive team".