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Which vet would you like the most on SA?
Poll above.. you know the rules
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Probably none (just keeping the band together), but if I had to pick one, I'd go with Marion as he fits in perfectly and can tutor Kawhi (and maybe Anderson or even Daye).
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I like Marion as a fourth big and backing up Kawhi in certain matchups.
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If we lose somebody in the off-season that obviously changes the equation; if we don't, I'm more interested in not harming our championship squad than in upgrading it. Gasol might be a nice sponge to soak up some of Timmy's minutes, but I'd say probably go with Marion. Smart player, good D, stretches the floor, won't cause any trouble.
Yes, we're at a point where I can look at a list of All Stars and say "nah, not worth the risk." It's a good feeling.
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Pau or Marion would be nice
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I originally saw Marion walking to Miami, but LeBron fucked that up by opting out. Now Miami has no MLE since they're under the cap. :lmao
Miami's best case scenario is to bring the same team back + Napier and find players for the miniumum. :lol
Maybe James really is leaving.
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N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Poll above.. you know the rules
Would have been better if you had associated a price tag with each player.
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N0 LyF3 ScRuB
Poll above.. you know the rules
...hand down, man down?
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baseline bum
I originally saw Marion walking to Miami, but LeBron fucked that up by opting out. Now Miami has no MLE since they're under the cap. :lmao
Miami's best case scenario is to bring the same team back + Napier and find players for the miniumum. :lol
Maybe James really is leaving.
i think they still have the MLE. they still hold his rights iirc and his cap hold puts them over the cap
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Ron Artest just to beat the shit out of anyone trying to start shit with a Spurs player.
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I want a legit backup for Kawhi, so I'mma say Vince. I dunno if Pierce can defend well anymore (didn't watch Brooklyn this season except for his game-winner at Toronto), but we saw that Vince still got something left with his good shooting. Hopefully, Vince can be a better defender here if we can pick him up for the vet minimum. But, I think he said he wants to return to Dallas, so maybe we can get Pierce instead.
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Paul Pierce on the Spurs could take us over the hump of reapiting! Paul Pierce on the Spurs will be gold!
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kobyz
Paul Pierce on the Spurs could take us over the hump of reapiting! Paul Pierce on the Spurs will be gold!
this
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I'd personally prefer Pierce over Carter, but you really can't go wrong with either playing for the vet min.
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florige
I'd personally prefer Pierce over Carter, but you really can't go wrong with either playing for the vet min.
True, but Pierce would want more than the Vet min and Carter already said he wanted to go back to the Mavs. I like Pierce because his passing and he's proven he can play PF for stints at a time, but I wouldn't mind the Spurs signing either on a two year deal to help the Spurs repeat next year.
Spurs don't have time to develop another player at this point and a clutch vet like Pierce would give Spurs a even bigger edge in the playoffs.
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My preference would be Gasol followed by Pierce then Carter. All long shots.
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Should have included an option for none of the above
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Mel_13
Would have been better if you had associated a price tag with each player.
Yes, I voted Marion, and am glad he's getting a lot of support. In addition to what's being said, he might also be just a little more reasonably expected to be obtained. Pau is going to be too rich for us.
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Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
True, but Pierce would want more than the Vet min and Carter already said he wanted to go back to the Mavs. I like Pierce because his passing and he's proven he can play PF for stints at a time, but I wouldn't mind the Spurs signing either on a two year deal to help the Spurs repeat next year.
Spurs don't have time to develop another player at this point and a clutch vet like Pierce would give Spurs a even bigger edge in the playoffs.
I agree. The only knock I have on Pierce is his defense. Carter would probably get on my nerves when he starts shooting those erratic 3's he likes to take sometimes though.
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I don't think the Spurs have enough minutes to attract any of these guys.
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how someone can prefer loser Carter over Pierce?
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ChumpDumper
I don't think the Spurs have enough minutes to attract any of these guys.
will be enough minutes for Pierce as a stretch 4 and Kawhi backup!
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kobyz
will be enough minutes for Pierce as a stretch 4 and Kawhi backup!
If he's willing to take the cut in minutes he should at this point in his career -- but he played 28 mpg in the regular season last year.
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Pierce needs the ball in his hand to be effective. Pau, marion, and okafor would fit seamlessly. Marion would be great to have for certain match-ups. Marion at the 4, Kawhi at the 3, Danny at the 2....that is some length tbh...
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ChumpDumper
If he's willing to take the cut in minutes he should at this point in his career -- but he played 28 mpg in the regular season last year.
i will start him and give him 24-28 mpg...
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look_at_g_shred
Pierce needs the ball in his hand to be effective. Pau, marion, and okafor would fit seamlessly. Marion would be great to have for certain match-ups. Marion at the 4, Kawhi at the 3, Danny at the 2....that is some length tbh...
in Spurs ball movement he will be ok, also Pierce creating skill will be value for us when bad Manu happened...
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Pau Gasol. If we re-sign our players - Patty and Boris - then having Pau as our 4th big would make us 10 deep. However, I doubt he comes to the Spurs in a limited role and I don't think Pop would like starting him with Duncan. Would it better than the Lakers Pau and Howard combo? Ithink we would be destroyed in the pick and roll.
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DJR210
Should have included an option for none of the above
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I prefer Chris Kaman. He can still score. Duncan's minutes wil go down and small injuries are bond to show up.
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raybies
Pau Gasol. If we re-sign our players - Patty and Boris - then having Pau as our 4th big would make us 10 deep. However, I doubt he comes to the Spurs in a limited role and I don't think Pop would like starting him with Duncan. Would it better than the Lakers Pau and Howard combo? Ithink we would be destroyed in the pick and roll.
So choose Paul Pierce
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Jared Dudley, in exchange for Kyle Anderson :downspin:
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Luis Scola
Bruno has got my back here.
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spurraider21
i think they still have the MLE. they still hold his rights iirc and his cap hold puts them over the cap
'Eh, probably so. I gotta read this new CBA the way I did the ones in the early 2000s back when the Spurs had tons of cap room (01 and 03).
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baseline bum
'Eh, probably so. I gotta read this new CBA the way I did the ones in the early 2000s back when the Spurs had tons of cap room (01 and 03).
I think I can put it off another year.
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Pau Gasol by far, but I wouldn't mind Shawn Marion.
Don't want Vince Carter, sorry. The Vince Carter curse is still alive imo.
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Give me either Frye or McRoberts.
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We're also known as the Silver and Black, just FYI.
Black and White = Brooklyn
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Gasol. Have to start getting ready for the AD (after Duncan) era and he's still one of the best big men in the game. I could definitely see a Parker-Kawhi-Gasol trio competing for a title after Duncan retires.
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Darius Bieber
Ron Artest just to beat the shit out of anyone trying to start shit with a Spurs player.
Update that old ass avy.
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None of the above. Our Support players cannot be as old as our core. That's what happened to us in 2010 and 2011.
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:toast I'll drink to that.
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Patrick Patterson, Josh McRoberts, Channing Frye. Patterson as the 1st preference, though he's restricted and unlikely. Basically, a shooting big who can play next to Tim or Tiago.
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None of the above.
I remember the Larry Brown days. We already have all the old vets we need :)
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Pau but on the premise that we get Patty and Boris back.
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It's not going to be Carter and Gasol.
It's going to be Cartier and McRoberts at best.
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Okafor would be nice on the cheap...
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Pierce/Marion (backup SF, probably lean more toward Marion) followed by Gasol
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I like what Vince Carter did against San Antonio. He could be like ray Allen.
Scola would be a nice bench player too. Don't Know the$ they seek.
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Harry Callahan
I like what Vince Carter did against San Antonio. He could be like ray Allen.
Scola would be a nice bench player too. Don't Know the$ they seek.
Didn't watch the Finals, did you?
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Pau Gasol, hands down...provided we didn't blow up the team to get him.
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I still want Frye unless someone really stands out during summer league.
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littlecoyotecoin
Yes, I voted Marion, and am glad he's getting a lot of support. In addition to what's being said, he might also be just a little more reasonably expected to be obtained. Pau is going to be too rich for us.
Best cast for Marion's availability is if Dallas signs a high priced free agent like Melo, or even Deng depending on what Dirk takes, and is left with only the room exception and the vet minimum to sign Marion, Carter, and Harris.
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I like Pau for full MLE if spurs can sell him on the Longview, eg being the Duncan successor. Pau would have to understand he would be coming off the bench this season, but boy would that be as close to a seamless transition as one good hope for after Duncan retires. Pau should understand though that bc pop manages minutes he should still expect a lot of minutes despite coming off the bench. The defensive reality is that Duncan and Pau cant start together.
More realistically, I like Marion.
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Would much rather have Pau's brother Marc if I had to make a choice.
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What roster spots are up for grabs ?
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bobcatfan4life
What roster spots are up for grabs ?
James, Daye, and perhaps Bonner.
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So the question is really Cap Space + Boris or Boris + Patty + MLE. You have to choose what you think you can get more out of.
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Marion has said he wants to retire in Dallas.
If Pierce goes anywhere it will be to the Clippers who still have no decent SF options and Doc as a coach.
Gasol is a poor man's Duncan at this point.
Carter is a quitting pussy.
Okafor is done.
I'd rather resign Boris and Patty and concentrate on young talent. The Spurs have enough veterans.
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Mark in Austin
Marion has said he wants to retire in Dallas.
If Pierce goes anywhere it will be to the Clippers who still have no decent SF options and Doc as a coach.
Gasol is a poor man's Duncan at this point.
Carter is a quitting pussy.
Okafor is done.
I'd rather resign Boris and Patty and concentrate on young talent. The Spurs have enough veterans.
agree on every body except gasol.
He was playing on a tanking team and for a coach who don't use him properly.
It's like judging boris on his last bobcat season and say he was done.
Anyway, i don't think that the spurs have enougth to offer to him, especialy if they want to keep boris and mills and since Ducan have take his option for 2014-2015.
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Gasol and Pierce are perfect for the Spurs. It's one think to add a some past prime role players, another different to add HOF-ers that are still good.
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DPG21920
So the question is really Cap Space + Boris or Boris + Patty + MLE. You have to choose what you think you can get more out of.
Considering the minutes available to any newcomer, the latter.
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Full MLE for Pau is doable. Knicks are banking on him taking LESS than that in order to pair him with Melo since the Knicks appear limited to the taxpayers MLE. Not sure Pau wants to play with another diva in another big market where he will continue to be shat on by media and fans on a daily basis, oh and for 3.2m a year.
If Pau is willing to come off the bench, the full MLE, opportunity to play for Pop, and the champs sounds like a sweet deal.
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DPG21920
So the question is really Cap Space + Boris or Boris + Patty + MLE. You have to choose what you think you can get more out of.
Chinook & Mel_13 this is correct no? Technically, the Spurs could have about 8M in cap space (by renoucing/not picking up options) and then sign Boris or could sign Boris & Patty and then have the MLE. Sound about right?
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kobyz
Paul Pierce on the Spurs could take us over the hump of reapiting! Paul Pierce on the Spurs will be gold!
A true backup for Kawhi.
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DPG21920
Chinook &
Mel_13 this is correct no? Technically, the Spurs could have about 8M in cap space (by renoucing/not picking up options) and then sign Boris or could sign Boris & Patty and then have the MLE. Sound about right?
I'm not sure what numbers you're using, but if I look at Sham's numbers and assume a 63M cap, I don't see how the Spurs can sign Diaw and have anywhere near 8M in cap space remaining. I'd say it's cap space, Boris + MLE, or Boris + Patty + MLE.
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I guess with them extending the QO to Baynes it looks like they are going for the latter option..?
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Mike Miller would be a nice vet to add for the bench.
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I don't want any of the guys in the poll. I want Kyle Lowry.
He was on NBATV in studio during the second round talking about how great it would be to play for an organization like the Spurs. And if we lose Patty Mills he would be an excellent replacement.
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Mel_13
I'm not sure what numbers you're using, but if I look at Sham's numbers and assume a 63M cap, I don't see how the Spurs can sign Diaw and have anywhere near 8M in cap space remaining. I'd say it's cap space, Boris + MLE, or Boris + Patty + MLE.
When I looked last week and assumed $63m cap, let Daye walk and re-sign Bonner for the minimum we had about $11-12mil - so to me that looks like re-sign Diaw, Patty, MLE.
Why break up this team? Especially when you have your succession plan in place with Kawhi, Splitter, Patty, Baynes, SloMo, Diaw and maybe Parker if he feels like sticking around. No way they will break this up IMHO.
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TheyCallMePro
I don't want any of the guys in the poll. I want Kyle Lowry.
He was on NBATV in studio during the second round talking about how great it would be to play for an organization like the Spurs. And if we lose Patty Mills he would be an excellent replacement.
We're talking guys the Spurs can afford. No way they can afford Lowry,,,,just like they cant afford Stephenson, Monroe, ect...
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HemisfairArena
We're talking guys the Spurs can afford.
We need a new poll then -- can't afford any of these guys.
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Mel_13
I'm not sure what numbers you're using, but if I look at Sham's numbers and assume a 63M cap, I don't see how the Spurs can sign Diaw and have anywhere near 8M in cap space remaining. I'd say it's cap space, Boris + MLE, or Boris + Patty + MLE.
Hmmmm, I thought, even with Boris's cap hold, that if SA essentially renounced all FA's other than Boris and declined the option on Daye they would have around 8M. Could then sign a FA & re-sign Boris for whatever at that point. Am I mistaken?
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Actually, I think it was renounce everyone but Patty and have 8M in cap space.