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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
mystargtr34
Although the numbers do make it appear Kidd may be one of the best defensive players of all time :lol.
Yeah, the defensive numbers jumped out at me. It might just be how terrible Stephon Marbury is, but I know Richard Jefferson and Kerry Kittles didn't turn the Nets into a world-beating defense.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
Holy shit, really?
If you were about to be traded and people wanted you gone so they could bring in a superstar, you would be pissed too.
No
Alpha Males dont bitch
Because a real Alpha MAle knows he won't get traded
A player who bitches is a beta cuck phaggot
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
lefty
No
Alpha Males dont bitch
Because a real Alpha MAle knows he won't get traded
A player who bitches is a beta cuck phaggot
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
Dude has 4 rings, and is going to have his jersey in the lights about 5 minutes after he walks out of the AT&T Center for the last time. That must really fucking suck for you to have to deal with. Any time you come to the Center you're going to have to look up at #9. That will be a real, personal hell for you. And you'll scoff and talk about how overrated Parker was, but deep down it's going to burn you a little bit every time you think about it.
Chin up, champ. You only have about 6 more years of Tony being a factor on the court. Just a little over half a decade. And then he'll only haunt you from the rafters. :lol
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
He honestly cannot take over a game offensively like Tony can... I think Parker when healthy is a better defender than Paul...
In the real world or in a parallel universe like ST? Obviously Paul can take over games -threatening triple-doubles- and he's certainly no worse defender than Parker.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
wildchild
In the real world or in a parallel universe like ST? Obviously Paul can take over games -threatening triple-doubles- and he's certainly no worse defender than Parker.
I have brought this up elsewhere. What did Paul do in his pivotal game 5 against Oklahoma City this year? What did Tony Parker do in his pivotal game 5 against the same team?
We know what Paul did. It didn't work out so well. TP9 played an efficient 2-way game with points, assists, rebounding and a steal and got the Spurs in rhythm for a blowout.
And for some of the criticism TP9 got for his uneven finals performance, let's not forget his pivotal play in some of those games. In Game 4 he was the leader of the Spurs first-half offense and only scored less later as he was choosing to facilitate. He still ended up with 19 points. Kahwi did not really break out until the late second quarter / second half. And recall what Pop said to TP in Game 3 for his leadership.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
Dude has 4 rings, and is going to have his jersey in the lights about 5 minutes after he walks out of the AT&T Center for the last time. That must really fucking suck for you to have to deal with. Any time you come to the Center you're going to have to look up at #9. That will be a real, personal hell for you. And you'll scoff and talk about how overrated Parker was, but deep down it's going to burn you a little bit every time you think about it.
Chin up, champ. You only have about 6 more years of Tony being a factor on the court. Just a little over half a decade. And then he'll only haunt you from the rafters. :lol
So? Is that supposed to impress me ?
They retired FUCKING AVERY JOHNSON's jersey FFS :lmao
Yeah I'll go there and take a pic of #9 next to #6 in the rafters :lmao
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
wildchild
In the real world or in a parallel universe like ST? Obviously Paul can take over games -threatening triple-doubles- and he's certainly no worse defender than Parker.
I've yet to see him take over a playoff series recently. They got out of the first round because of MVGriffin, not because if Paul. I love his game, he's just too easy to shut down and it's becoming a trend that he seems to be PG geared for the regular season.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
lefty
So? Is that supposed to impress me ?
They retired FUCKING AVERY JOHNSON's jersey FFS :lmao
Yeah I'll go there and take a pic of #9 next to #6 in the rafters :lmao
It's good that you aren't butthurt about it though. Tell us how you really feel. Then realize that Parker will be considered the 4th best Spur of all-time when he's done, behind Duncan, DRob, and Iceman. Reconcile that and deal with it. #9 is going into the bright lights as an all-timer. Nothing you can do about it.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
Hes the most underrated thats for sure. Hes the layup king. I wish he was a little better of a passer and 3 pt shooter because sometimes his lack of size and hops can get be defended like the Heat did. Right now hes the best though, especially scoring, and really especially, getting to the rim.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
Cry Havoc
:cry
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
skulls138
Hes the most underrated thats for sure. Hes the layup king. I wish he was a little better of a passer because sometimes his lack of size and hops can get be defended like the Heat did. Right now hes the best though.
He wasn't an elite passer when he was picked. His passing ability is probably as improved as any facet of his game since he came into the league, which is pretty remarkable. This season is the first where the Spurs were able to function and flourish even when Parker wasn't dominating.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
lefty
:cry
Top 5 Spur. Neal wit it.
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I just don't get the Parker hate the guy shows up every year the Spurs have 5 rings and negative nancy weirdos just want to pop off.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
lefty
:lol
How can someone waste so much time/energy trolling that hard on one player...
You never get tired of it? Parker is a Spur since 2001 for God sake. We get that you hate everything France related but isn't it boring for you? You still find it fun to post the same shit for years?
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I'm not sure why you guys still don't have him on your ignore list.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
At his size, Parker is the best finisher I've seen since Iverson - and he's been able to do it an elite level for a decade now.
Always found it bizarre that he's so underrated on this forum.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
Obstructed_View
I'm not sure why you guys still don't have him on your ignore list.
This.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
Never thought that TP would be this good. Sure, I thought he'd be an all star maybe once or twice, but I never thought he'd be a #1 guy kind of good. The guy has been an all star 6 times, 4 all NBAs, a FMVP and 4 championships. At his age, he's still "young" enough and good enough to get at least 2 more all star appearances and another all nba imo
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
KL2
I'd actually like to know his stats vs other PG's, because I can remember quite clearly the likes of Dragic, Nash, Conley, Kidd, WB, even Chalmers etc. raping the Spurs in years past.
Parker has always had a great perimeter defender to help lock down those opposing PG's, from Bowen to Green and Leonard. Can't forget about one of the ATG shot blockers in locking down the paint.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...parketo01.html
-click "Finder"
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-it will compile every game played against a player or team and show his stats along with the opposing player.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
Parker has a realistic chance of reaching 20,000 points and 7,000 assists. He would only be 36 if he plays more seasons. 4 more seasons.
would only need to average 70 games played and 14 ppg and 5 apg over the next 4 seasons.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
cd021
Parker has a realistic chance of reaching 20,000 points and 7,000 assists. He would only be 36 if he plays more seasons. 4 more seasons.
Just to put this in context, in case some people think this is a common milestone in the NBA, only 2 players have reached it so far: Oscar Robertson and Gary Payton.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
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Originally Posted by
will_spurs
Just to put this in context, in case some people think this is a common milestone in the NBA, only 2 players have reached it so far: Oscar Robertson and Gary Payton.
Wow.
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His best season was arguably 2009, but 2013 is a close second.
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Re: Tony against other greats PGs
Parker's career will look better in hindsight than some realize. His accomplishments are stacking up. Manu May have been better at his best, but there's no doubt TP has been more reliable and consistent. He not only has a Finals MVP, he also has been top 10 in regular season voting at least twice I think. He is a legit top 10 player in the NBA and top 1-3 PG's depending at how you see it. Parker wasn't anywhere near 100% in the playoffs and he still led the Spurs in scoring while playing PG on one of the best teams ever. Regular season success is just that- regular season success. Chris Paul has had some terrible playoff performances, and never even made it past the Conference semi-finals. Go Spurs