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Spurs refuse Manu permission to play in FIBA tournament
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Welp, lets see how Manu reacts...
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Manu helps the spurs win number 5 and this is how they show their appreciation?
:(
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Spurs doing excatly what Spurs should do.
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good job but you coulda at least waited until after his birthday Pop.....damn.....
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Originally Posted by
Kool Bob Love
Manu helps the spurs win number 5 and this is how they show their appreciation?
:(
SEE his bank account and see his age any team that had a shot at winning it all would have done the same thing if he played for another team
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How about a phone call, WTF :lmao
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Manu didnt want to play, this was CIA Pop's way of getting him out of international play without him catching any flack :pop:
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Originally Posted by
Robz4000
Welp, lets see how Manu reacts...
let him demand to be traded and see what will happen
let him try to cause issues in the lockerroom pop will cut him just like sj
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Originally Posted by
Mal
Spurs doing excatly what Spurs should do.
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Originally Posted by
Baam
How about a phone call, WTF :lmao
they knew he would plead like a two year old
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Happy Birthday Manu. But first you are NOT playing for the national team. Hahaha they made the right choice. I'm sure he'll understand.
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Best thing that could happen to Argentina NT.
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I don't know how I feel about this, tbh. I almost wanna feel bad for Manu but his top priority should be the Spurs. Of course some disagree and I also understand where they're coming from. Just a tough situation for Manu, his fans, and Spurs/Spurs fans.
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Good news, IMO... fuck ARG reaction, tbh...
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Originally Posted by
Robz4000
Welp, lets see how Manu reacts...
He's a big boy and he'll get over it.
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It's stupid as hell... I have a hard time believing it in the first place tbqh, they can't prevent him from playing the last international competition of his career...
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Originally Posted by
Kool Bob Love
Manu helps the spurs win number 5 and this is how they show their appreciation?
:(
They are supposed to let him go out there and play on a bum leg? No not at all.
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Originally Posted by
Baam
It's stupid as hell... I have a hard time believing it in the first place tbqh, they can't prevent him from playing the last international competition of his career...
If he was healthy he would be playing. He's not healthy so he doesn't get too. It's not very complicated and the organization made the right decision.
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Spurs offering cover to Manu (I hope).
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It's possible that Manu asked the Spurs to do this, so his Argentina teammates think he wanted to play with them even on a bum leg, even though maybe he didn't want to. This way he doesn't come off looking like the bad guy for declining.
I'm not saying it's likely, just possible.
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Originally Posted by
Kool Bob Love
Manu helps the spurs win number 5 and this is how they show their appreciation?
:(
Fuck off! I don't want another 2013 Finals Manu.
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Originally Posted by
Jenks
It's possible that Manu asked the Spurs to do this, so his Argentina teammates think he wanted to play with them even on a bum leg, even though maybe he didn't want to. This way he doesn't come off looking like the bad guy for declining.
I'm not saying it's likely, just possible.
Nope Manu is not a huge hypocrite like that :rolleyes...
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Good, didnt the last time he played he came back fucked up!?
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the Spurs wouldnt have held a grudge if it had been Manu's decision and he decided to play. So he in turn will respect their decision since it was up to them.
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This is how the Spurs organization treats the players that have done so much for them... Well....Lack of class!
Playing for your national team is the biggest thing for an international player, you should respect that.
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Originally Posted by
Dawkins
This is how the Spurs organization treats the players that have done so much for it... Well....
lol 14 post troll
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I hope that manu retires from the Spurs. NOW!
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Originally Posted by
chasky
I hope that manu retires from the Spurs.
I hope that Magic gives you the AIDS
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Originally Posted by
chasky
I hope that manu retires from the Spurs.
Spotted a manu fan in the wild.
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Originally Posted by
PingPong
These are old though compared to this.
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Spurs / Manu escape route plan :downspin:
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Spurs family they say.... a great piece of SHIT in the reality.
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Originally Posted by
chasky
Spurs family they say.... a great piece of SHIT in the reality.
Kill yourself.
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Manu can now recover from his injury, rest up for the title defense, and hopefully will have a better chance of staying healthy this season.
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If Manu was so fiercely insistent on playing for Argentina, he shouldn't have agreed to the contract he signed which has a clause in it about the Spurs being able to deny him permission to play internationally.
I feel bad for him not being able to represent his country, but life isn't fair. I'd rather Argentina get fucked over than us.
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Originally Posted by
SpursFan86
If Manu was so fiercely insistent on playing for Argentina, he shouldn't have agreed to the contract he signed which has a clause in it about the Spurs being able to deny him permission to play internationally.
I feel bad for him not being able to represent his country, but life isn't fair. I'd rather Argentina get fucked over than us.
Exactly. How many times has he fucked over the spurs from international play(not even including the playoffs). It's time the Spurs put their foot down for once.
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i didnt think people still sent letters :lol
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Is the Argie federation broke and therefore unable to pay player insurance? Sorry but No insurance, no play. Hurt or not.
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just like in FIFA, arg gonna lose anyway. why risk it?
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Damn that's fucked up LMAO
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Good news, IMO... fuck ARG reaction, tbh...
:lol Your bribes must not have worked, tbh....
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Great, best decision ever front office said We are gonna keep Manu´s talents in SA.
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Originally Posted by
Baam
It's stupid as hell... I have a hard time believing it in the first place tbqh, they can't prevent him from playing the last international competition of his career...
Yes. Yes they can. Legal contracts are pretty powerful agreements.
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Originally Posted by
chasky
Spurs family they say.... a great piece of SHIT in the reality.
:lol well you sure are a dumb f***
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
:lol Your bribes must not have worked, tbh....
:lol this actually guaransheeds another 2/year, $12m extension by dem Spurs... :greedy:greedy:greedy
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Originally Posted by
Kool Bob Love
Manu helps the spurs win number 5 and this is how they show their appreciation?
:(
The Spurs have shown their appreciation by giving him a contract few people thought he was worth anymore after the 2013 Finals. He's played nearly every summer, even when it wasn't wise to do so. And they never stopped him before. On more than one occasion, his playing year-round has directly led to (or indirectly contributed to) Manu's breaking down during the NBA season, sinking the Spurs' title chances during seasons in which the Spurs had a great shot to add to their ring total.
The Spurs are the ones paying Manu millions of dollars to do what he does. Doesn't get paid by the national team.
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I'm glad I got in before the usual retarded arguments started showing u-
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Originally Posted by
Dawkins
This is how the Spurs organization treats the players that have done so much for them... Well....Lack of class!
Playing for your national team is the biggest thing for an international player, you should respect that.
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Originally Posted by
chasky
I hope that manu retires from the Spurs. NOW!
Oh. Forget I said anything. :lol
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My guess is the Spurs know Ginobili shouldn't play and are making the decision so he doesn't have to. The dude has a broken leg. Argentina should feel ashamed for asking him to play this summer. He can go ahead and play in 2016 when he's retired from the NBA.
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Originally Posted by
Kool Bob Love
Manu helps the spurs win number 5 and this is how they show their appreciation?
:(
The Spurs are disgusting. How could they forbid Ginobili to play just after a surgery, and at 37 years old? Stupid business move, everyone knows all players get better after playing more games.
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A letter? Pretty insulting if true.
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Originally Posted by
IceColdBrewski
A letter? Pretty insulting if true.
True, they should have just texted or sent a Facebook message. Classy organization my ass.
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
My guess is the Spurs know Ginobili shouldn't play and are making the decision so he doesn't have to. The dude has a broken leg. Argentina should feel ashamed for asking him to play this summer. He can go ahead and play in 2016 when he's retired from the NBA.
I think you're misguided there. It was him that was hoping for a miracle because he wanted to play.
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Juan Ballesteros @Jeballesteros · 18 min
Desde el entorno de Manu dicen no tener nada oficial y en caso de recibir la noticia, analizarán cómo actuar. Esperemos.
A pretty close journalist of gino's family giveme hopes that this is a big mistake by Buck_SA, if not the Spurs misshandle this situation big time.
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Good, Manu's selfishness could've cost the team next year's title. Successful off season indeed.
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To all Argentinians: I understand many of you are upset with the Spurs for this decision. But it's not like they prevented him from playing just because they wanted to. Manu is hurt and his injury still has yet to fully heal. The Spurs are acting in the best interests of Manu's health. In doing so, they're showing loyalty to their own players.
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As an argentinian I'd rather have him winning the fifth ring than losing in quarter finals in Spain.
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Argentina, decime que se siente? :lol
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Argentina, decime que se siente? :lol
LTA
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wonder how those pining for him to play for ARG feel when they see him limping or dragging himself onto the court in the event fatigue catches up to him during the NBA season
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To all Argentinians: Time to start cultivating some new basketball players.
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
I think you're misguided there. It was him that was hoping for a miracle because he wanted to play.
I know that. I don't mean to say anyone was forcing Ginobili to play. But the man has to be put down for his own good. The fact that some posters are acting indignant about this annoys me.
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Spurs protecting their investment nothing more
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Argentina, decime que se siente? :lol
Never heard/read that variant before.
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Never heard/read that variant before.
Argie invention, tbh.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
Argie invention, tbh.
Nice. I'll stick to my TexMex and Textbook words, though. Decime has too many syllables.
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Manu will now intentionally throw the NBA Finals as revenge if we make them next year.
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Originally Posted by
chasky
I hope that manu retires from the Spurs. NOW!
I hope you default. IN TWO DAYS!
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
Nice. I'll stick to my TexMex and Textbook words, though. Decime has too many syllables.
There are many other words that we transform like that. I think it comes from using el "voseo" instead of el "tuteo" but I'm not sure, I may be talking out of my ass.
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baseline bum
I hope you default. IN TWO DAYS!
we goin down... yeeeehhhaaaa
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I hope you default. IN TWO DAYS!
I Hope that you imperialist fall, as every impire in history.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
There are many other words that we transform like that. I think it comes from using el "voseo" instead of el "tuteo" but I'm not sure, I may be talking out of my ass.
Correct-a-mundo. It actually is a bastardization of "decidme"
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chasky
I Hope that you imperialist fall, as every impire in history.
I just hope you stay on the other side of the river tbh
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Argies probably trying to seem more European. :lol
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I hope he complies without a fight tbh. I know he wants a last tourney as farewell but if it's not fully healed he should just go to a beach with the family and relax. Even though NT Gino is one of my favorite versions I do want the Spurs to go all in to try to repeat.
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IIRC, the only thing he can do is appeal to the Spurs to reverse course... not even sure the NBPA can do anything about it.
FIBA won't let him play as long as the franchise says he's injured.
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
IIRC, the only thing he can do is appeal to the Spurs to reverse course... not even sure the NBPA can do anything about it.
FIBA won't let him play as long as the franchise says he's injured.
No, if Manu retires from the Spurs, can play the WC.
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Originally Posted by
chasky
No, if Manu retires from the Spurs, can play the WC.
Lol @ that notion, tbh
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Originally Posted by
chasky
No, if Manu retires from the Spurs, can play the WC.
I'm talking realistic scenarios, tbh
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Manu is part of the Spurs inner family. I sincerely doubt there is any chance that this wasn't extensively discussed between both parties.
Many people aren't giving much credence to the idea that this is actually a mutual decision by Manu and the Spurs, because it allows Manu to show his desire to play and lets the Spurs be the scapegoat, instead of Manu feeling the backlash of letting down his country.
Does the injury play a factor? Yes. Could Manu probably play through it? Yes.
But at this point, Manu knows the risks of further injury and fatigue as well as anybody in the league. He's broken a bone playing FIBA basketball, and spent many a season injury-riddled following national play. I'm sure Manu doesn't want to let down his country...but I'm sure he also appreciates the Spurs decision regarding his overall health and NBA career. And I have no doubt he bleeds silver and black, so I'm sure he understands that aspect as well.
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Originally Posted by
chasky
No, if Manu retires from the Spurs, can play the WC.
Do you even Spur?
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
I just hope you stay on the other side of the river tbh
Me too! Go and have a nice dinner with your friend Mr. Sterling.
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Originally Posted by
MaNu4Tres
Lol @ that notion, tbh
Lol @ any of his notions or posts.
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Excellent news, tbh.
GO SPURS GO!
:flag:
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Originally Posted by
chasky
Me too! Go and have a nice dinner with your friend Mr. Sterling.
No more feeding this troll, obvious troll is obvious
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Originally Posted by
bigfan
Spurs offering cover to Manu (I hope).
Honestly, this is probably what it is. He doesn't want to play for them anymore but doesn't want to come off as the bad guy in his 3rd world country.
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People with the conspiracy theory are crazy, they think Manu is somehow a huge liar who is playing his country when he doesn't have to...
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Originally Posted by
SupremeGuy
Honestly, this is probably what it is. He doesn't want to play for them anymore but doesn't want to come off as the bad guy in his 3rd world country.
To all the ones who are thinking this is CIA Pop covering up Manu´s ass, I say: after all these years, you don´t know Manu at all if you think he is not brave enough to speak out loud about what he thinks and what he wants or doesn´t want to do with his life.
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Manu did an interview some days ago, he said that he wanted to play for the NT not for patriotism or for the people demanding him to do so, but because he love the game and wanted to help his friends to get as far as possible, it´s funny how people can spin that sentiment into some kind of betrayal on the Spurs.
In my book Manu have nothing to prove to argentinian fans, but he is a grown man, he just did an amazing job to help the Spurs to get another championship, and he wants to play with his brothers, you can be pretty sure he is not happy with the spurs decision, and has nothing to do with him dissaponting fans in Argentina.
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Originally Posted by
Dex
Manu is part of the Spurs inner family. I sincerely doubt there is any chance that this wasn't extensively discussed between both parties.
Many people aren't giving much credence to the idea that this is actually a mutual decision by Manu and the Spurs, because it allows Manu to show his desire to play and lets the Spurs be the scapegoat, instead of Manu feeling the backlash of letting down his country.
Does the injury play a factor? Yes. Could Manu probably play through it? Yes.
But at this point, Manu knows the risks of further injury and fatigue as well as anybody in the league. He's broken a bone playing FIBA basketball, and spent many a season injury-riddled following national play. I'm sure Manu doesn't want to let down his country...but I'm sure he also appreciates the Spurs decision regarding his overall health and NBA career. And I have no doubt he bleeds silver and black, so I'm sure he understands that aspect as well.
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Baam
People with the conspiracy theory are crazy, they think Manu is somehow a huge liar who is playing his country when he doesn't have to...
Manu bleeds blue and white first...he's played through games with the NT where the could have just said no.
he wanted to play..There is no conspiracy. Spurs don't want him to play to his and manu's benefit...
Manu's desire to play for NT with an injury is very similar to how he wants to go crazy on a drive to the basket without any jump or athleticism left in his body..That's always been his personality..That's Manu..
SMH at all these conspiracies..
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Manu doesn´t owe a nickel to anyone, nor to Argentina, nor to SA.
He is trying to say goodbye to all the things he cared the most during his basketball career. If he wanted to play for Argentina, I am just sad he can´t make it, Period.
So many ugly fans around here...
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Originally Posted by
Virgil
Manu doesn´t owe a nickel to anyone, nor to Argentina, nor to SA.
He is trying to say goodbye to all the things he cared the most during his basketball career. If he wanted to play for Argentina, I am just sad he can´t make it, Period.
So many ugly fans around here...
He signed a contract with the Spurs, he owes them something.
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Originally Posted by
robdiaz2191
He signed a contract with the Spurs, he owes them something.
No he doesn't.
He only does if the contract says so..I don't think there's anything written on his contract about his desire to play for his NT..The spurs signed knowing full well manu loves to play for his NT...The spurs bought his services. It was never a loyalty contract or whatever...
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Just because a letter was sent doesn't mean a phone call wasn't also made.