Well if they are resting the big three, it matters a lot less who plays PG. Since it's more or less a thrown game, that would be an ideal time to give Anderson the reins in whichever position he's playing.
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Well if they are resting the big three, it matters a lot less who plays PG. Since it's more or less a thrown game, that would be an ideal time to give Anderson the reins in whichever position he's playing.
Herein lies the rub. You've summed it up pretty well. We will have to have stellar health from Parker and Cojo for the first few months of the season. Ginobili probably won't be available right away, and even if so, he's not good for many minutes, even when healthy he only averaged 18 mpg last season, I think? It will be be very interesting to see how the early season progresses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Fair enough. It's not a big deal, but having a third healthy PG around would be of more use than a fourth center/seventh big.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
That should matter more than a relatively small amount of money to a team well under the tax, that's coming off of 13 home playoff dates and a championship.
"We" will? How would you know? They could easily get injured at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlecoyotecoin
Actually, barring a setback, Ginobili will be available right away and he played 22.8 mpg last season. In the event he suffers a setback and can't go for at least a few weeks, I would think at that point there would be a strong chance of them waiving Ayres.
So when Mills comes back they'd have four healthy point guards plus two or three other guys who can run the offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Is that really practical?
No. Who said anything about a guaranteed contract? Bring someone(s) in to compete with Cotton for the third spot for the time being, waive them by January the 10th to avoid guaranteeing them for the season, then sign them to two ten days. At that point, they'd be in the neighborhood of Mills' return, barring a setback.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
If the new guy isn't worth keeping, why bother when Manu, Anderson and Diaw are right there already?Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
If Parker or Joseph is going to be out for a month, maybe this would happen. If shorter, it's much more likely the Spurs just muddle through.
:lol So now Diaw can play PG. I love how anyone who can somewhat handle can automatically play PG and zero thought is given to defending the position.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I already explained the scenarios it would make sense to have a third healthy PG around for and conceded it's more likely that they retain Ayres.
I know you've missed having me around, but I'm not going to play this game with you.
Yes. We will. In order to survive the lack of depth. Calm down. I'm agreeing with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
I never said Diaw or Anderson would play PG.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
I clearly stated this earlier.
You know who those three guys are, and they don't play PG.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Don't be disingenuous just because you have it in for a Spur player you don't like.
Yeah, that is the problem. That's what makes it so interesting to see how they handle the situation. Stand pat, or are they forced to do something more drastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
That might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this board, which is saying something. No one can say with any certainty that any player will be healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlecoyotecoin
What in that post gave you the impression that I was anything but calm?
Right and which of them can defend the position again?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I don't have it in for Ayres. In fact, I said yesterday that, though I'd lean towards Baynes over him, I'm mostly indifferent between the two; they're just redundant. If Mills is healthy, this is all moot.
Not PG, which is why they would not play PG.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
If Parker and Joseph are healthy, it's all moot.Quote:
I don't have it in for Ayres. In fact, I said yesterday that, though I'd lean towards Baynes over him, I'm mostly indifferent between the two, they're just redundant. If Mills is healthy, this is all moot.
Also, it might be a little presumptive to assume Manu won't have complications. From all I have seen, heard, read, and know, this is no slam dunk.
Agreed, but Parker hasn't exactly been Mr. Reliable in the health department, ankle, shin contusion, back injury, hamstrings, etc. I would definitely be more shocked if he makes it through the first three months uninjured than I would be if he got injured. It is par for the course for him at this point. He drives hard to the basket, and he's on the wrong side of 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
His taking the summer off may help, but it's no guarantee.
Eh, he misses about 15-20 games per season for whatever reason. If it's all at once before Patty gets back, we can panic.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlecoyotecoin
I don't know, maybe use of hyperbole is another hint that you're being a little emotional. And you're going off on someone that was essentially agreeing with you? And, I never said anything about certainties. You're reaching.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
That would be the unfortunate scenario. At this point, we're good. You're right. Not panic time. But, it will make the beginning of the season a little more interesting, at least to me, to see how we handle the thin guard spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
"Ginobili and maybe Anderson are fine as emergency options offensively, but neither can defend the position. Green can, but if (really, when) Ginobili and Parker get injured or they're given the odd game off, then what?"
-TD 21
I thought we were sort of on the same page, here.
It's motion offense with a heavy dose of PnR. Team Argentina was running this back in 2004. There's some twists and plays here and there, but it's nothing new.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Beautiful and extremely effective when you have the right personnel. The Spurs are basically bringing everyone back, I can't think any of those guys (Beli, Corey, etc) don't know how to run it.
We're just a bit more pnr and iso heavy when we're playing the 'stars' (TD, TP, Manu).
Sure he can. We're talking about the 3rd string PG during the regular season. Those are minutes to burn. I mean, it's "bring the ball up, pass it to the center in the middle, run to the other corner".Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
We won 19 games in a row with Beli's putrid defense, and Tony certainly had a down year on that side of the court too. I'm not really concerned with the 2nd/3rd string PG defense, especially during the regular season, where you see all kinds of crappy teams.
Would it be nice to have stout defensive players at every position and depth level? Sure. But that's a pipe dream.
The Spurs will just have to weather the storm until Patty comes back. If there's some sort of extended injury, they might waive Daye to make room and bring somebody in.
Mills is not a pg...he's a small guard whose main weapon , in our team, is fast shooting (EXPECIALLY FROM THREE).
No one in our team has the same skills....with the Cotton signing we are basically trying to substitute the some kind of player, at least in the short time or in training camp time, just to see if Cotton has enough to come in an do the same things mills did.
We'll see the outcome, but let's not forget that Cotton is the main suspect to be let go if and when (bit it's highly possible) Baynes is re-signed.
Imho, we Should treat the Mills's injury as a potential blessing in desguise aka an event that give us the opportunity to explore the KA PG experiment...the fact is that KA obviously doesn't have the same skills of Mills (just think how fast he is) but at the same time he's so talented that can really give us a different dimension, if all works out. And in a championship caliober team coming out from a winning it all season, I think that's the best you can ask for...
Green doesn't seem that special at all. But then again we're talking about a filler forward I suppose.
How did Deshaun Thomas look in Summer league action?