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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
I see no issues in bringing back the team that just won the championship. Especially when there are no roster spots really available. I guess they could waive Ayres/Daye and not resign Baynes, but it will be tough for someone to crack the rotation. Those guys don't get much P/T anyways.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
Only superteams repeat. The Spurs play super ball, but they aren't a super team. There are too many players these days willing to gang up on one team to get where they cannot get on their own, for any team like the Spurs to have a long series of rings. I can see them getting a repeat, but the Lakers should have had 4 or 5 in a row. Chicago could have had 8 in a row I think. The Heat should have won 4 in a row.
You have to have a juggernaut to repeat. We don't. That's what makes beating one all that much sweeter. Anyone can find the most stacked team and dick ride it, but when the team you've been supporting for 30 years reels off 17 years of greatness like this one has, you cannot bitch about it.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
You know what though... what I saw from last year is...
the Bearing of Fruit, finally after many years of toils.
The completion of a transformation.
And the Spurs, what they have become, is in a different stratosphere than the rest of the NBA.
It feels like other Teams Will have to Train and develop their defense to a whole new level, just to counter what the Spurs do, and that should take, years or the precise elements of players who have chemistry and are well coached.
If the Spurs Make it to the FINALS who in the East really... is capable of defeating them??
The Spurs are so sublime and their brand of ball makes everyone else look primitive.
I think next year, barring injury, we'll see the most magnificent Spurs repeat team in history.
They Blossomed into a new Form, evolved into something greater, that other teams are only now realizing is possible.
And the other aspect is... now that all their demons are gone.. they can just go out their and be free spirited.
You need peace before prosperity. They kept pounding that rock and it turned into a diamond.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
Yuixafun
You know what though... what I saw from last year is...
the Bearing of Fruit finally after many years of toils.
And the Spurs, what they have become, is in a different stratosphere than the rest of the NBA.
It feels like Teams Will have to Train and develop their defense to counter what the Spurs do, and that should take, years or the precise elements of players who have chemistry and are well coached.
If the Spurs Make it to the FINAL who in the East really... is capable of defeating them??
I think next year, barring injury, we'll see the most magnificent Spurs repeat team in history.
They've got all the demons gone..
The Blossomed into a new Form, they've evolved into something greater, that other teams are just realizing is possible.
I second that :tu
Op is a faggie always too obsessed with dumb shit (weak troll).
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
It is almost impossible to recruit a FA without overpay these days. However, if SPURS overpays a FA, it would hurt the feeling of those players who are underpaid in order to have a chance to win. That's the dilema.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
OK, sell the Spurs to an impact free agent.
Tell them the current rotations.
Tell them the minutes they should expect.
Now what?
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
Aremid
They beat us 3-1 in the regular season and their margin of victory in the post season was higher than ours. Yeah 0.4 was a tough pill to swallow, but the lakers were the better team that year. The same goes for the Mavericks.
i know they beat us, but if the time keeper does their job, we are up 3-2 after game 5.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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DMC
Only superteams repeat. The Spurs play super ball, but they aren't a super team. There are too many players these days willing to gang up on one team to get where they cannot get on their own, for any team like the Spurs to have a long series of rings. I can see them getting a repeat, but the Lakers should have had 4 or 5 in a row. Chicago could have had 8 in a row I think. The Heat should have won 4 in a row.
You have to have a juggernaut to repeat. We don't. That's what makes beating one all that much sweeter. Anyone can find the most stacked team and dick ride it, but when the team you've been supporting for 30 years reels off 17 years of greatness like this one has, you cannot bitch about it.
the early 90s bulls weren't a super team.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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RuffnReadyOzStyle
Mills will not cost us wins early in the season - we will beat poor and mediocre teams and lose to contenders as usual.
2004 was not our year whatever happened - Pistons were the best team that year.
Cleveland will not win in their first year together, although they'll be scary in their 2nd if they can find a rim protecting C. OKC and the Bulls are our chief rivals, and I still think we're better than both.
BRING ON THE SEASON! :ihit
Mills carried our scrubs when the Big 3 rested... About 6 wins he got us by himself. That's HCA, tbh
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
Aremid
2004: LOST 2-4 to the LA Lakers (Superteam with Malone, Payton, Kobe, Shaq, and Phil coaching; We lost to them 1-3 in the regular season too, so I don’t buy that 0.4 was the difference in that series.)
That shot doesn't go down it's game 7 on our floor..
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
Aremid
They beat us 3-1 in the regular season and their margin of victory in the post season was higher than ours. Yeah 0.4 was a tough pill to swallow, but the lakers were the better team that year. The same goes for the Mavericks.
Lakers got horsewhipped by the Same Pistons team we beat in 7 the following year. They weren't better IMO we didn't play as well as we could and they also caught a huge break..
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james evans
i know they beat us, but if the time keeper does their job, we are up 3-2 after game 5.
Exactly, how quickly people forget that we had an 18 game winning streak going into that series. Regular season doesnt mean shit, look at the thunder this year. If we win that game as we rightfully should have, we go to the finals that year.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
2003 free agency is when SA had a ton of cap room to prepare to repeat in 2004.
Remember what they did:
- Swung & missed in recruiting Jason Kidd from the just defeated Nets
- Gave a huge contract to FA Rasho Nesterovic
- Brought in former Spur-killer Robert Horry in FA
- traded for Hedo Turkoglu
- traded for Ron Mercer
- Signed FA Anthony Carter
Just something to disprove that retooling after a ring is the way to go. Doesn't work out as we'd hope as in 2004.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
Not one mention of Manu's ankle injury in 08... He was beasting vs Nola, no way the Lakers beat us with manu healthy that year, maybe his best till that point. Iirc tony had bone spurs issues that year as well.
04, parker crumpled, no one could hit from outside (fucking turk) and Malone and shaq got away with hacking Timmy all game, even then they needed .4, regular season I'm pretty sure there were at least two games we played them shorthanded (one was the 2ot game manu almost won by himself)
06 was bullshit, dirk would step on someone's foot and get FT while parker would get intentionally tripped no call. Last play of regulation Tim got fouled twice, no call. Part of it was pop going small but the main thing was the refs, mavs got ft from jump shots while spurs pounded inside (remember how much interior scoring Tim manu and tony used to give), that series was total bullshit, tony and Timmy in particular got no respect that series. Pretty sure Tim was still fighting plantar fasciitis too
No guarantees we win the finals those years but those series were more about injuries and refs than lack of personnel. 09-11 definitely spurs were outgunned
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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james evans
the early 90s bulls weren't a super team.
Compared to their competition they certainly were.
Putting MJ and Pippen together is like putting Lebron and Wade together. They'd be a super team without Bosh.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
Wanted to put it before but wasn't sure what game. Go watch game 3 of that mavs series. Crawford went in hard! 50-32 ft for mavs, 27 pts on 9 shots (and 24 FTA) for dirk, one point loss. First four games spurs were -22 in FTA, game 3 was easily the most egregious- not just the disparity but the terrible calls- the play dirk steps on Duncan is crucial. Spurs were getting called for breathing on dirk and harris, while Howard diop and co were hammering us, Howard tripped parker blatantly in another game no call, I remember manu fouling out on some bs too. Games 3 and 4 were brutal, as a fan i suffered that more than .4 more than 08 or 14. We managed to come back from 3-1 down! But theres a reason that shit almost never happens, its real hard. The calls evened out but then Manu's foul happened. On the following play Tim is fouled twice, and in ot he was done. He got beat up good that series. Fucking mavs
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
I'm content with the spurs having 5 at this point and anything after is just gravy. Winning 5 was important just to put an end to the effects of game 6 last year and to shut up the media and the trolls. Its hard to win back to back considering it usually always takes a lot luck in the sense of having a game winning shot, a bounce here or there for a rebound, not getting a phantom called against you in a crucial playoff game. The spurs have a chance to win it again next year but I'm not getting myself emotionally invested in it like I did the 4 other times due to all the bs that happened in the past.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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daslicer
I'm content with the spurs having 5 at this point and anything after is just gravy. Winning 5 was important just to put an end to the effects of game 6 last year and to shut up the media and the trolls. Its hard to win back to back considering it usually always takes a lot luck in the sense of having a game winning shot, a bounce here or there for a rebound, not getting a phantom called against you in a crucial playoff game. The spurs have a chance to win it again next year but I'm not getting myself emotionally invested in it like I did the 4 other times due to all the bs that happened in the past.
Slicer I agree and dead on 100%, the rest is just GRAVY NOW, period. Good post. I invested alot last year and this year in this team emotionally (2012 too TBH) and it burned me out some, I will take what comes now and 5 is what I always wanted for the team and they went out and GOT #5!!!!!!!!!! Anything else now is the icing on the cake, they have done it all and are a legendary team and a repeat would make them that much more legendary but honestly as of right now I am just going to relax and watch, period.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Aremid
2006: LOST 3-4 to the Mavs (Not a Superteam, but a solid lineup with a solid coach AJ who knew our strengths and weaknesses. Refs a huge factor)
Smallball a huger factor.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
Aremid
2004: LOST 2-4 to the LA Lakers (Superteam with Malone, Payton, Kobe, Shaq, and Phil coaching; We lost to them 1-3 in the regular season too, so I don’t buy that 0.4 was the difference in that series.)
Uh, that's a low bar for a superteam. They didn't win it all.
Also your take on .4 is retarded. Series tied at 2-2, Lakers taking game 5 wasn't the difference in the series? Hurrr
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
OK, sell the Spurs to an impact free agent.
Tell them the current rotations.
Tell them the minutes they should expect.
Now what?
This. It bothers me when people say "he didn't pick the spurs i guess he hates winning :cry" because frankly the spurs team right now is a terrible place for a prime player to go. No free agent we could add would be able to play over like 25 MPG, their role will always be behind the big 3 and Kawhi now, and on top of all of that San Antonio isn't a very attractive free agent destination. There's a reason we only attract oldies, and it's because they are perfectly ok playing small minutes in a great system in a small market. Great players aren't really ok with those things.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
I must have this offseason confused with another. I could have sworn that the Spurs made a big-time play for Pau Gasol in an effort to improve the roster and just didn't have the money to offer that the Bulls did. But since that must have been a different offseason, yeah, the front office has shanked this team's chances in 2015 by not panicking and dropping the full MLE on someone just for the sake of adding to the roster (and their inability to get anyone in the league to just hand over a valuable asset for a Jeff Ayres and Austin Daye package is just ridiculous).
Bad off season Spurs. Handle yourselves like 5 time champions.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
DMC
Only superteams repeat. The Spurs play super ball, but they aren't a super team. There are too many players these days willing to gang up on one team to get where they cannot get on their own, for any team like the Spurs to have a long series of rings. I can see them getting a repeat, but the Lakers should have had 4 or 5 in a row. Chicago could have had 8 in a row I think. The Heat should have won 4 in a row.
By this logic, the SPURS should have won it at least 5 years in a row (2003-2007) if not for a 0.4 in 2004, and small ball/refs in 2006.
Then Manu was injured in 2008.
Then we had a 20 game winning streak in 2012.
Then 6 happened in 2013.
Then redemption in 2014.
So really we should have 8 championships too.
Each season is an entity unto itself. If anything, it might be easier to repeat because you're peaking. I think getting back to the top of the mountain after having been there and fallen back is harder than repeating. And we've done that 4 different times.
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
diego
Not one mention of Manu's ankle injury in 08... He was beasting vs Nola, no way the Lakers beat us with manu healthy that year, maybe his best till that point. Iirc tony had bone spurs issues that year as well.
04, parker crumpled, no one could hit from outside (fucking turk) and Malone and shaq got away with hacking Timmy all game, even then they needed .4, regular season I'm pretty sure there were at least two games we played them shorthanded (one was the 2ot game manu almost won by himself)
06 was bullshit, dirk would step on someone's foot and get FT while parker would get intentionally tripped no call. Last play of regulation Tim got fouled twice, no call. Part of it was pop going small but the main thing was the refs, mavs got ft from jump shots while spurs pounded inside (remember how much interior scoring Tim manu and tony used to give), that series was total bullshit, tony and Timmy in particular got no respect that series. Pretty sure Tim was still fighting plantar fasciitis too
No guarantees we win the finals those years but those series were more about injuries and refs than lack of personnel. 09-11 definitely spurs were outgunned
Lol, Miami would have never had a chance against the 06 Spurs, it wouldve been a probable sweep even with ref help
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Re: 0-4 at repeating; 2 of the losses bad breaks, 2 against super teams
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Originally Posted by
jsandiego
By this logic, the SPURS should have won it at least 5 years in a row (2003-2007) if not for a 0.4 in 2004, and small ball/refs in 2006.
Then Manu was injured in 2008.
Then we had a 20 game winning streak in 2012.
Then 6 happened in 2013.
Then redemption in 2014.
So really we should have 8 championships too.
Each season is an entity unto itself. If anything, it might be easier to repeat because you're peaking. I think getting back to the top of the mountain after having been there and fallen back is harder than repeating. And we've done that 4 different times.
No.
Spurs were never a super team. You don't draft yourself into super team status. That requires combining forces of known superstar talent like Shaq and Robert Horry.
