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So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
Shouldn't they be there to protect those oppressed citizens from the evil government?
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Oh, right, it's black people so they don't give a fuck.
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bunch of open carry there, just not the legal variety
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DarrinS
bunch of open carry there, just not the legal variety
A group of people being subjected to excessive force by the government. Where are the militias to defend these poor souls?
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Dick Jones
Oh, right, it's black people so they don't give a fuck.
Why should they?
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JoeTait75
Why should they?
Why did they care so much about a rich white mooching cattle rancher?
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Dick Jones
rich white
nevermind, answered my own question.
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Dick Jones
A group of people being subjected to excessive force by the government. Where are the militias to defend these poor souls?
They are too busy securing our borders.
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DarrinS
bunch of open carry there, just not the legal variety
They're black so they must be doing something illegal.
You'd be a great cop.
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TheSanityAnnex
They are too busy securing our borders.
i.e. doing Rick Perry's bidding. I guess all they need in Missouri is a rich white guy to give the order, then Ferguson would be flooded with "don't tread on me" flags.
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Dick Jones
Why did they care so much about a rich white mooching cattle rancher?
Most anti-government types are also white. People tend to empathize more and identify more with people that look like them and share their values. Pretty simple, tbh.
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JoeTait75
Most anti-government types are also white
:lmao
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Dick Jones
:lmao
why you laugh at that?
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This has only been going on for 5 days. It takes time to travel.
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And at least blacks in Ferguson had the balls to react to police brutality. Police murder people all the time but whites are too scared to go out and do anything about it. Honestly, after what I've seen of the local police there, I'm extremely inclined to believe the shooting went down exactly like the locals say it did.
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right-wing Bundy white assholes threatens federal agents with rifles. nothing happens (so far)
a unarmed black gets shot 8 times, cop is protected.
btw, the Ferguson blacks know who the cop is, he's well known as a repeat harasser of blacks.
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angrydude
And at least blacks in Ferguson had the balls to react to police brutality. Police murder people all the time but whites are too scared to go out and do anything about it. Honestly, after what I've seen of the local police there, I'm extremely inclined to believe the shooting went down exactly like the locals say it did.
shit...if it went down like that, then it's proof of the MK Ultra program.
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Ferguson Police Tear Gas Reporters then Disassemble Their TV Equipment
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...t?detail=email
Certainly there must be plenty of smartphone cameras from 100s of angles recording the military crackdown. posse comitatus be fucked.
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cantthinkofanything
shit...if it went down like that, then it's proof of the MK Ultra program.
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toddstarnes ✔ Toddstarnes
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Obama sends "deep condolences" to family of MO teen killed after allegedly attacking police officer. No condolences for the cop.
4:23 PM - 12 Aug 2014
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I don't agree with the police reaction in Ferguson, but....
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boutons_deux
right-wing Bundy white assholes threatens federal agents with rifles. nothing happens (so far)
How many stores did the Bundy camp loot? You're an idiot for trying to compare a peaceful Bundy protest to what is happening in Furgeson.
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Black Panthers in da hood!
"Filing in for the vacationing Megyn Kelly, Fox News’ Martha MacCallum drummed up Black Panther fears by claiming they are pushing racial violence in Ferguson, based on an FBI report that ONE member of the fringe Black Panthers group is in Ferguson."
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/...iticus+USA+%29
"fair and balanced!"
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TheSanityAnnex
How many stores did the Bundy camp loot?
You call it "looting", I call it "refusing to submit to US government authority as a sovereign citizen, laying claim to liquor bottles that are their ancestral right to graze from".
But, hey, Po-ta-to, Po-tah-to.
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gonna be lots more of vids like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1A4i_K9fkk
white boys will be white boys
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New witness steps forward in Michael Brown shooting, provides new video
Mitchell told News 4 she saw a door close on a police car. An officer was inside and Brown, Jr. was on the outside. She said the two were arm wrestling through the car window. Mitchell said she then tried to pull out her phone to record. Shots then rang out.“It just didn’t look right for them to be arm wrestling,” Mitchell said. “The first gun shot came from the window, so I just started getting out of the way.”
According to Mitchell, Brown, Jr, began to run away after the first shot was fired.
“After the shot, the kid just breaks away. The cop follows him, kept shooting, the kid’s body jerked as if he was hit. After his body jerked he turns around, puts his hands up, and the cop continues to walk up on him and continues to shoot until he goes all the way down,” Mitchell said.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...28Daily+Kos%29
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cantthinkofanything
shit...if it went down like that, then it's proof of the MK Ultra program.
this whole thing is set up. so some cop is crazy enough just to shoot a kid for no reason? this shit was programmed and my guess is we will never hear much about the cop that shot Ferguson. Meanwhile, we'll have more and more planned shit happen and we'll see more and more police in the streets. Whether it's Ebola or race wars or whatever. Know why Al Sharpton is the HNIC? It's not because the blacks want him there. It's because "they" want him there. Why is there no level headed black leader?
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cantthinkofanything
this whole thing is set up. so some cop is crazy enough just to shoot a kid for no reason? this shit was programmed and my guess is we will never hear much about the cop that shot Ferguson. Meanwhile, we'll have more and more planned shit happen and we'll see more and more police in the streets. Whether it's Ebola or race wars or whatever. Know why Al Sharpton is the HNIC? It's not because the blacks want him there. It's because "they" want him there. Why is there no level headed black leader?
Sorry. Cops shoot/kill people for no reason for all the time. They seem to think its alright if they subjectively "feel threatened" even if they objectively are not. Just youtube it. It's not exactly a national secret if you follow this sort of thing.
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4 Unarmed Black Men Have Been Killed By Police in the Last Month
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/3-unarmed-black-african-american-men-killed-police
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angrydude
Sorry. Cops shoot/kill people for no reason for all the time. They seem to think its alright if they subjectively "feel threatened" even if they objectively are not. Just youtube it. It's not exactly a national secret if you follow this sort of thing.
right. They do. So "they" have plenty to choose from. Why make a big deal of this one? Because it's the right time and right place. AND, the town has equipment supplied by the Pentagon. And this wasn't just an accidental shooting or something done in the heat of the moment. This was a programmed hit, so egregious that it had to blow up.
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boutons_deux
4 Unarmed Black Men Have Been Killed By Police in the Last Month
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/3-unarmed-black-african-american-men-killed-police
"Unarmed" does not mean undeserved.
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cantthinkofanything
"Unarmed" does not mean undeserved.
Cops seem to handle LOTS of unarmed, and very often non threatening, even fleeing, people with shooting them to death, or if you're really lucky, just tasered, multiple times.
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boutons_deux
Cops seem to handle LOTS of unarmed, and very often non threatening, even fleeing, people with shooting them to death, or if you're really lucky, just tasered, multiple times.
how many is "LOTS"?
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cantthinkofanything
how many is "LOTS"?
a bunch
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boutons_deux
a bunch
you don't have a clue...got it. thanks.
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cantthinkofanything
right. They do. So "they" have plenty to choose from. Why make a big deal of this one? Because it's the right time and right place. AND, the town has equipment supplied by the Pentagon. And this wasn't just an accidental shooting or something done in the heat of the moment. This was a programmed hit, so egregious that it had to blow up.
It's a big deal because people started protesting. This could have happened anywhere the conditions were the same. Lots of towns have that equipment. I agree that this was sort of predictable, but I'm not sure who "they" are. Sorry, not buying this is a false flag psy-op or whatever.
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cantthinkofanything
you don't have a clue...got it. thanks.
Did you hear about 4 killed before I posted above?
Do a quick search, there are sites that try to keep with the cop murderers, precision lacking, with certainly no help from the lying cops and the Blue Wall, but probably 50 -100/year.
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boutons_deux
Did you hear about 4 killed before I posted above?
Do a quick search, there are sites that try to keep with the cop murderers, precision lacking, with certainly no help from the lying cops and the Blue Wall, but probably 50 -100/year.
a couple of those were resisting arrest and another was stalking around WalMart with a gun.
what does your "probably" equate too? 51%? So maybe it's actually about 25 per year. And I think it's likely that you're exaggerating by 2x. My "likely" is 75%. So really, around 17 per year. Compared to all of the crimes being committed, that's pretty small. Blacks kill more whites out of hate than that.
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cantthinkofanything
a couple of those were resisting arrest and another was stalking around WalMart with a gun.
what does your "probably" equate too? 51%? So maybe it's actually about 25 per year. And I think it's likely that you're exaggerating by 2x. My "likely" is 75%. So really, around 17 per year. Compared to all of the crimes being committed, that's pretty small. Blacks kill more whites out of hate than that.
yep, compared to 300M+ people in USA, 17 or 200 cop murders/year is really nothing to care about, nor is total transformation of even podunk police departments into military outposts (and let's not forget the DHS army).
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boutons_deux
yep, compared to 300M+ people in USA, 17 or 200 cop murders/year is really nothing to care about, nor is total transformation of even podunk police departments into military outposts (and let's not forget the DHS army).
at least you got around to the real problem.
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cantthinkofanything
at least you got around to the real problem.
no, I'm ridiculing your stupid trick of comparing a huge number of cop-murdered people to a larger irrelevant number, you implying that the number of cop-murdered people isn't large enough for concern.
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LA Cops providing mental health care
L.A. Man Was 'Lying Down' When Cops 'Shot Him In The Back'
http://www.alternet.org/la-man-was-l...ter1015505&t=3
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boutons_deux
Blacks are Rappers. They say a-lot. I wouldn't put too much stock into what their claims are.
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Missouri Governor announces St. Louis County Police to be relieved of their duties in Ferguson
@GovJayNixon just confirmed that the State Police & Federal Authorities are going to relieve St. Louis County PD of their duties here.
— @ShaunKing
It's about time.Details as they develop.
8:55 AM PT: More:
“The governor just called me, and he’s on his way to St. Louis now to announce he’s taking away St. Louis County police out of the situation,” Clay, a Missouri Democrat, said in a telephone interview.
He added that Nixon may ask the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation to step in.Clay said that he has been urging U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to “take over the entire situation because we will not get justice for Michael Brown and his family and friends if the St. Louis County police and prosecutor have a say.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...28Daily+Kos%29
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11 Shocking Facts About America's Militarized Police Forces
3. The use of SWAT teams is unnecessary. In many cases, using militarized teams of police is not needed. The ACLU report notes that the vast majority of cases where SWAT teams are deployed are in situations where a search warrant is being executed to just look for drugs. In other words, it’s not even 100% clear whether there are drugs at the place the police are going to. These situations are not why SWAT was created.
Furthermore, even when SWAT teams think there are weapons, they are often wrong. The ACLU report shows that in the cases where police thought weapons would be there, they were right only a third of the time.
4. The “war on terror” is fueling militarization. It was the “war on drugs” that introduced militarized policing to the U.S. But the “war on terror” has accelerated it.
A growing number of agencies have taken advantage of the Department of Defense’s “1033” program, which is passed every year as part of the National Defense Authorization Act, the budget for the Pentagon. The number of police agencies obtaining military equipment like mine-resistant ambush protected (MRAP) vehicles has increased since 2009, according to USA Today [10], which notes that this “surplus military equipment” is “left over from U.S. military campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.” This equipment is largely cost-free for the police agencies who receive them.
In addition to the Pentagon budget provision, another agency created in the aftermath of 9/11 is helping militarize the police. The Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) own grants funnel military-style equipment to local police departments nationwide. According to a 2011 Center for Investigative Reporting story published by The Daily Beast [11], at least $34 billion in DHS grants have gone to police agencies to buy military-style equipment. This money has gone to purchase drones, tactical vests, bomb-disarming robots, tanks and more.
5. It’s a boon to contractor profits. The trend towards police militarization has given military contractors another lucrative market where they can shop their products. Companies like Lockheed Martin and Blackhawk Industries are making big bucks by selling their equipment to agencies flush with Department of Homeland Security grants.
In addition to the actual selling of equipment, contractors also sponsor training events for SWAT teams, like Urban Shield, a major arms expo that has attracted increasing attention from activists in recent years. SWAT teams, police agencies and military contractors converge on Urban Shield, which was held in California last year, to train and to promote equipment to buy.
6. Border militarization and police militarization go hand in hand. The “war on terror” and “war on drugs” aren’t the only wars helping police militarization. There’s also the war on undocumented immigrants.
The notorious Sheriff Joe Arpaio, infamous for brutal crackdowns on undocumented immigrants, is the paradigmatic example of this trend. According to the ACLU, Arpaio’s Maricopa County department has acquired a machine gun so powerful it could tear through buildings on multiple city blocks. In addition, he has 120 assault rifles, five armored vehicles and ten helicopters. Other law enforcement agencies in Arizona have obtained equipment like bomb suits and night-vision goggles.
Then there’s a non-local law enforcement agency on the border: the Border Patrol, which has obtained drones and attack helicopters. And Border Patrol agents are acting like they’re at war. A recent Los Angeles Times investigation revealed [12] that law enforcement experts had found that that the Border Patrol has killed 19 people from January 2010-October 2012, including some of whom when the agents were under no lethal, direct threat.
7. Police are cracking down on dissent. In 1999, massive protests rocked Seattle during the World Trade Organization meeting. The police cracked down hard on the demonstrators using paramilitary tactics. Police fired tear gas at protesters, causing all hell to break loose.
Norm Stamper, the Seattle police chief at the time, criticized the militarized policing he presided over in a Nation article in 2011. “Rocks, bottles and newspaper racks went flying. Windows were smashed, stores were looted, fires lighted; and more gas filled the streets, with some cops clearly overreacting, escalating and prolonging the conflict,” wrote Stamper.
More than a decade after the Seattle protests, militarized policing to crack down on dissent returned with a vengeance during the wave of Occupy protests in 2011. Tear gas and rubber bullets were used to break up protests in Oakland. Scott Olsen, an Occupy Oakland protester and war veteran, was struck [13] in the head by a police projectile, causing a fractured skull, broken neck vertebrae and brain swelling.
8. Asset forfeitures are funding police militarization. In June, AlterNet’s Aaron Cantu [14]outlined how civil asset forfeiture laws work.
“It’s a legal fiction spun up hundreds of years ago to give the state the power to convict a person’s property of a crime, or at least, implicate its involvement in the committing of a crime. When that happened, the property was to be legally seized by the state,” wrote Cantu. He went on to explain that law enforcement justifies the seizing of property and cash as a way to break up narcotics rings’ infrastructure. But it can also be used in cases where a person is not convicted, or even charged with, a crime.
Asset forfeitures bring in millions of dollars for police agencies, who then spend the money for their own uses. And for some police departments, it goes to militarizing their police force.
New Yorker reporter Sarah Stillman, who penned a deeply reported piece on asset forfeitures, [15]wrote in August 2013 that [16]“thousands of police departments nationwide have recently acquired stun grenades, armored tanks, counterattack vehicles, and other paramilitary equipment, much of it purchased with asset-forfeiture funds.” So SWAT teams have an incentive to conduct raids where they seize property and cash. That money can then go into their budgets for more weapons.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...age=1#bookmark
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Infinite_limit
Putin laughing
I think so. Headline right now in RT.com (Putin's newsbroadcaster):
Iraq? Afghanistan? Obama puts boots on the ground in Ferguson, Missouri
:lmao :lol
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boutons_deux
no, I'm ridiculing your stupid trick of comparing a huge number of cop-murdered people to a larger irrelevant number, you implying that the number of cop-murdered people isn't large enough for concern.
Is 17 a huge number? With all the scenarios that play out in the world every day? With a police force where almost all of them carry a gun? I'm not concerned about it. I'm more concerned about the emotional response to any one event that causes more death and destruction. And political leaders who pick and choose what to pounce on to further their personal goals and gains.
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They must have read your post and decided they gave a fuck about black people.
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Dick Jones
Oh, right, it's black people so they don't give a fuck.
http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.com/2014...ia-is-now.html
the Missouri Citizen’s Militia is NOW IN Ferguson to protect innocent Americans from the tyrannical ‘police state’ according to the linked facebook post from Aaron Penberthy. Missouri’s Militia was recently at Bundy Ranch protecting innocent Americans from the CORRUPT FEDS who have NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TERRORIZE INNOCENT Americans. Straight from the lips of Penberthy on Facebook:
Aaron Penberthy If peaceful protesters get fired upon, it is my duty to uphold the constitution Clay Martin. If innocent families are being attacked, I have no choice but as a human being to go defend.
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cheguevara
I think so. Headline right now in RT.com (Putin's newsbroadcaster):
Iraq? Afghanistan? Obama puts boots on the ground in Ferguson, Missouri
:lmao :lol
Hahah. Nicely done sir.
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We Repugs aren't racistis, but ...
Rep. Steve King: Ferguson Protestors Are Of A Single 'Continental Origin'
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...inental-origin
:lol
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If it happened the way the witnesses said I'm pretty confident charges will be filed and the cop is going to jail.
The riots are just street trash being street trash. None of the rioters arrested were actually from the town.
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I find it interesting that our police need to have massive arsenals because there have been cases of being outgunned, welcome to a country that has more guns than people.
That being said, our police take protect and serve to another level. We have not made it clear what we want from them either. Are they peace officers or protectors, there is a difference.
It is always interesting to note the cases chosen to illustrate the problem we have.
Anecdotal situations have lead me to believe there are times when the police are put in very tough situations so often in some places that they are programmed to overreact. The latest does not seem like one of them.
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pgardn
I find it interesting that our police need to have massive arsenals because there have been cases of being outgunned, welcome to a country that has more guns than people.
That being said, our police take protect and serve to another level. We have not made it clear what we want from them either. Are they peace officers or protectors, there is a difference.
It is always interesting to note the cases chosen to illustrate the problem we have.
Anecdotal situations have lead me to believe there are times when the police are put in very tough situations so often in some places that they are programmed to overreact. The latest does not seem like one of them.
It may come down to a fine line of defining over reacting. Even the friendly eyewitnesses say the kid and the cop were "wrestling" through the window of the car. If they were in fact wrestling over the cops gun then a case could be made that the cop was acting in self defense on at least the first shot. The last seven shots? Not so much.
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CosmicCowboy
It may come down to a fine line of defining over reacting. Even the friendly eyewitnesses say the kid and the cop were "wrestling" through the window of the car. If they were in fact wrestling over the cops gun then a case could be made that the cop was acting in self defense on at least the first shot. The last seven shots? Not so much.
The case is so over the top as presented so far it seems like there must be more.
Seems...
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It's easy to forget that cops are people and sometimes scared shitless too. You know that if in fact they were wrestling over the gun and the cop was in serious fear for his life that the adrenaline was off the charts. Cops are not trained to just "shoot once" in a like threatening situation they are trained that once gunfire is necessary in their opinion to shoot until the guy goes down.
That being said if he continued to shoot the guy as his back was turned and he was trying to run away (forensics will easily verify this if true) that was a huge error in judgement adrenaline or not.
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Lol alot of my right wing freinds sent me pics of michael brown holding a gun and asked me how innocent he looked. I had to remind them of the pic they were defending recently of a right wing extremist running around town scaring peopl by carrying their military style civilian firearms in public places to display their 2nd amendment rights. I asked them if they could explain why they wernt defending mr browns right to bear firearms. No response but we all know why lol
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Big Empty
Lol alot of my right wing freinds sent me pics of michael brown holding a gun and asked me how innocent he looked. I had to remind them of the pic they were defending recently of a right wing extremist running around town scaring peopl by carrying their military style civilian firearms in public places to display their 2nd amendment rights. I asked them if they could explain why they wernt defending mr browns right to bear firearms. No response but we all know why lol
If the militias were smart, they'd head to Ferguson and stand with the protestors. This is the perfect opportunity for them to make a point and not look like complete racists.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGzZ-EFe3U8
like i was saying before, during the first 3-4 days of protests, it was peaceful displays of unity.it wasn't until the sun came down and the police brought in tanks, tear gas, riot gear and wooden/rubber bullets to intimidate and incite violence. now that the governor FINALLY called off his hell hounds and brought in some decent police, its been back to peaceful demonstrations of unity 24/7.
state senator nadal who joined in the protests and was maced and arrested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dANCBMh9EEU
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Big Empty
Lol alot of my right wing freinds sent me pics of michael brown holding a gun and asked me how innocent he looked. I had to remind them of the pic they were defending recently of a right wing extremist running around town scaring peopl by carrying their military style civilian firearms in public places to display their 2nd amendment rights. I asked them if they could explain why they wernt defending mr browns right to bear firearms. No response but we all know why lol
Typical email/facebook "news". That pic wasn't Brown.
BTW, isn't it pleasant that Kool, Trill and the other trolls are shitting in the Club thread and leaving this one alone? People can actually have a reasonable interchange of ideas and perspective without their blind racist baiting and trolling.
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Well, there goes the fucking neighborhood.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
Well, there goes the fucking neighborhood.
CosmicCrackhead staying true to racist troll form.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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cantthinkofanything
CosmicCrackhead staying true to racist troll form.
The stupid troll as usual not able to detect humor when it smacks him in the face.
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It's a start but every cop in the "good" pics is black.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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CosmicCowboy
The stupid troll as usual not able to detect humor when it smacks him in the face.
my bad. my face has been desensitized by your mom's floppy booosums
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cantthinkofanything
It's a start but every cop in the "good" pics is black.
Hardly a surprise. It is the nationwide norm that police forces make an effort to mirror the demographics of their community.
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CosmicCowboy
Hardly a surprise. It is the nationwide norm that police forces make an effort to mirror the demographics of their community.
lol. and you imply that I'm obtuse? shit...if I had multiple ID's, I'd be an awesome troll just like you.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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cantthinkofanything
It's a start but every cop in the "good" pics is black.
I guess that's part of the point.
Look at your lol graphic.
In a majority black city you should find black cops. But it's in St. Louis county or some such gov. entity.
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cantthinkofanything
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pgardn
I guess that's part of the point.
Look at your lol graphic.
In a majority black city you should find black cops. But it's in St. Louis county or some such gov. entity.
I get all that.
My LOL was actually at the graphic itself and the ratio of black to blue color compared to the % numbers given. If you're going to use a graphic to make a point, it should match the numbers.
The 45%/52% particularly stands out.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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Originally Posted by
cantthinkofanything
I get all that.
My LOL was actually at the graphic itself and the ratio of black to blue color compared to the % numbers given. If you're going to use a graphic to make a point, it should match the numbers.
The 45%/52% particularly stands out.
It may very well match the numbers, it's the area of a circle pi*r^2.
Did you measure r on your screen for the black and white areas, square it, multiply by pi and then do a ratio? Then 45 and 52 don't stand out.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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Originally Posted by
pgardn
It may very well match the numbers, it's the area of a circle pi*r^2.
Did you measure r on your screen for the black and white areas, square it, multiply by pi and then do a ratio? Then 45 and 52 don't stand out.
I must admit that I did not. I also did not take into account the resolution and aspect ratio of my monitor. Or the progressive focus points in my glasses.
My bad.
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butt...I did just hold up a couple of coins to the screen. The dime perfectly fit inside the blue 67% on the end. A quarter perfectly covers the full 52/45 circle. So a quarter is 100% and the dime represents 67%.
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cantthinkofanything
Looks like the demographic shift in some of Cleveland's east-side suburbs, tbh.
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A line chart would have been more effective, tbh.
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CosmicCowboy
Typical email/facebook "news". That pic wasn't Brown.
BTW, isn't it pleasant that Kool, Trill and the other trolls are shitting in the Club thread and leaving this one alone? People can actually have a reasonable interchange of ideas and perspective without their blind racist baiting and trolling.
I didnt realize it was a fake. Tbh its hard to say what happened. It sucks that the kid was unarmed. Well never know if he resisted arrest or went for the officers gun even if the officer came back & provoked it. Tbh i dont care for any dumb asshole that walks in the middle of the street when theres a damn sidewalk. I dont really feel sorry for anyone that starts struggling with police cause that makes u an idiot and u subject urself to these kinds of things. I think i have more of an issue with that guy that had a heart attack that couldnt breath. I think those cops were hotheaded and wreckless there and its very unfortunate but again, resisted arrest. Never gonna win that battle so resist at ur own risk
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cantthinkofanything
butt...I did just hold up a couple of coins to the screen. The dime perfectly fit inside the blue 67% on the end. A quarter perfectly covers the full 52/45 circle. So a quarter is 100% and the dime represents 67%.
That assumes the outside most circles in each year have the same total area. They don't appear to on my screen.
Let us agree that it might not be a good visual to the human eye. A bar graph might have been better.
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boutons_deux
btw, the Ferguson blacks know who the cop is, he's well known as a repeat harasser of blacks.
link to Darren Wilson's repeated harassment of blacks please?
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QUESTION:
So the officer was called to the scene because of a robbery call?
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pgardn
I guess that's part of the point.
Look at your lol graphic.
In a majority black city you should find black cops. But it's in St. Louis county or some such gov. entity.
they complain about a lack of black cops... then when confronted with images of black cops they call them coons :lol. you can't win
do we have figures of how many blacks in the area applied to be cops?
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Infinite_limit
QUESTION:
So the officer was called to the scene because of a robbery call?
Chief Jackson said that Officer Wilson had been alerted to the robbery shortly before the encounter with the teenager, Michael Brown, 18, who was walking home from a store on Saturday when he was shot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us...ouri.html?_r=0
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spurraider21
link to Darren Wilson's repeated harassment of blacks please?
Heard that blacks know the asshole cop, and of course many of them saw him shoot the kid down, heard it on NPR the other morning, but the lady wouldn't say on the air.
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boutons_deux
Heard that blacks know the asshole cop, and of course many of them saw him shoot the kid down, heard it on NPR the other morning, but the lady wouldn't say on the air.
repeated harassment implies previous incidents. please, do tell. or were you just bullshitting?
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spurraider21
That is a crucial piece of information. When Police hear robbery they are on alert for weapons.
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse59d1ed4.png
Looks like Thug got what he deserved. Case closed
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
Um, no. The penalty for robbing a convenience store is not summary execution by cop.
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angrydude
Um, no. The penalty for robbing a convenience store is not summary execution by cop.
He had his hands on another man minutes before the altercation with Police. This gives credibility to the Police claim of physical struggle.
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angrydude
Um, no. The penalty for robbing a convenience store is not summary execution by cop.
"summary execution" http://www.thecoli.com/styles/defaul...es/dahell2.png
all he had to do was fucking nothing. then he'd still be alive dealing with his real charges.
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spurraider21
repeated harassment implies previous incidents. please, do tell. or were you just bullshitting?
I said a lady interviewed on NPR said Ferguson blacks knew who the cop was, not me.
Does your bullshit-for-brains really think the harassing cop or the harassment victims would have recorded the harassment incidents?
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boutons_deux
I said a lady interviewed on NPR said Ferguson blacks knew who the cop was, not me.
Does your bullshit-for-brains really think the harassing cop or the harassment victims would have recorded the harassment incidents?
there would be incident reports or disciplinary actions.
stop posting hearsay and acting like its fact then
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spurraider21
there would be incident reports or disciplinary actions.
stop posting hearsay and acting like its fact then
that response to that poster. http://www.thecoli.com/styles/defaul...lies/mjlol.png
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spurraider21
there would be incident reports or disciplinary actions.
stop posting hearsay and acting like its fact then
bullshit. harassment is just harassment, no arrest, no record, no trail, etc, etc. harassment victims know who the fuck their harassing cops are.
If this asshole goes to grand jury, then maybe some blacks may step forward to testify against him as harasser. He said vs they said.
If this were black cop said to be harassing rednecks, then you guys would be absolutely certain that the rednecks' hearsay was Bible truth.
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Originally Posted by
boutons_deux
bullshit. harassment is just harassment, no arrest, no record, no trail, etc, etc. harassment victims know who the fuck their harassing cops are.
If this asshole goes to grand jury, then maybe some blacks may step forward to testify against him as harasser. He said vs they said.
If this were black cop said to be harassing rednecks, then you guys would be absolutely certain that the rednecks' hearsay was Bible truth.
LOL at thought of a black cop harassing rednecks. Would love to have on film.
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Re: So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?
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Originally Posted by
boutons_deux
bullshit. harassment is just harassment, no arrest, no record, no trail, etc, etc. harassment victims know who the fuck their harassing cops are.
If this asshole goes to grand jury, then maybe some blacks may step forward to testify against him as harasser. He said vs they said.
If this were black cop said to be harassing rednecks, then you guys would be absolutely certain that the rednecks' hearsay was Bible truth.
Innocent until proven guilty... Unless he's white?
of course after the fact black people in the area will claim he harassed them. Anything they can do to smear him
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Infinite_limit
He had his hands on another man minutes before the altercation with Police. This gives credibility to the Police claim of physical struggle.
Yes it does.
But the cop who shot him was NOT aware of the forced robbery.