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He has the 2nd best career Drtb ever(Gar Heard #1, barely), He has the 6th best single season Drtb ever, He has the 2nd most defensive win shares ever(career, Bill Russell #1), 6th most win shares of all time, 13th all time career total rebound percent.
Such a travesty
Media Award.
Joke.
He has 5 rings. Who gives a fuck what DPOY award goes too.
What's a drtb?
dirt bag?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Leppard
:lmao
Because Ben Wallace was so awful on offensive that it made his good defense look spectacular.
He and Bruce split the "Spurs vote" during their prime.
Exactly. Bowen was such a great defensive player and he never won either. That award is a joke and almost never goes to the best defensive player.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Typical media award that reward shotblockers/players that only play on one end of the game.
Because shotblocking is all the madness.
If we're talking about not having DPOY's too, Brucie tops TD on that list.
In an ironic twist, they'll name the award after him when he retires.
Yeah they look at blocks and steals too much.
I really thought he was going to get it for the 13 season, and then he ended up finishing 6th.
More blocks than fouls in a season, Duncan did it 6 times:
For single seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2013-14; qualified for Blocks Per Game Leaderboard; requiring Blocks >= 1.0 × Personal Fouls; sorted by most seasons matching criteria.
1 Manute Bol 1986 1993 TOT NBA 8
2 Dikembe Mutombo 1993 2000 TOT NBA 8
3 David Robinson* 1990 1996 SAS NBA 7
4 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1974 1980 TOT NBA 6
5 Marcus Camby 1998 2009 TOT NBA 6
6 Tim Duncan 2003 2014 SAS NBA 6
7 Mark Eaton 1983 1989 UTA NBA 6
8 Ben Wallace 2002 2007 TOT NBA 6
9 Hakeem Olajuwon* 1990 1994 HOU NBA 5
10 Shawn Bradley 1996 1999 TOT NBA 4
11 Andrei Kirilenko 2002 2006 UTA NBA 4
12 Bill Walton* 1977 1983 TOT NBA 3
13 Benoit Benjamin 1988 1989 LAC NBA 2
14 Eddie Griffin 2002 2006 TOT NBA 2
15 Serge Ibaka 2012 2013 OKC NBA 2
16 Larry Nance 1989 1992 CLE NBA 2
17 Theo Ratliff 2001 2004 TOT NBA 2
18 Chris Andersen 2009 2009 DEN NBA 1
19 Andrew Bynum 2012 2012 LAL NBA 1
20 Patrick Ewing* 1990 1990 NYK NBA 1
21 Adonal Foyle 2001 2001 GSW NBA 1
22 George Johnson 1981 1981 SAS NBA 1
23 Brook Lopez 2013 2013 BRK NBA 1
24 Alonzo Mourning* 1999 1999 MIA NBA 1
25 Tree Rollins 1983 1983 ATL NBA 1
26 Elmore Smith 1974 1974 LAL NBA 1
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...f&order_by=blk
People vote for idiots that swat the ball out of bounds when they block shots to look cool. They don't vote for people that touch block the ball to yourself or a team mate to gain possession. Guess it doesn't look as cool as the idiots who deliberately give possession back to the other team by blocking the ball into the stands. Crazy. At least we know him and Brucie are two or the best ever
...and Dwight Howard has three.
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Originally Posted by BillMc
Just like the 6th man award should have Ginobili's name on it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
If the 2000-2010 media was swapped with today's media, Duncan would have at least 1, tbh..
Today's new media is much more knowledgeable and informed, overall..
Defensive metrics are still relatively flawed, but obviously levels better than any defensive information we possessed pre-2010, especially the "eye test"..
Pippen never won one either. That award is a joke.
So that's why the spurs been the favorites the last 4 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
I don't understand what you're implying, tbh:lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by moisaenz
:lol good one :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by moisaenz
I think the time for subtlety is over...Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
http://nbathroughmyveins.files.wordp...marc-gasol.jpg
Much more informed LOLOLOL
Stupid post is stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
I'm hoping this award evolves as Sportvu analytics become more prevailent. I'd love to see stats not available before become popular stats. Things along the lines like individual opponent FG%, drives against, % shots vs passes.
Image, too. You've got to give off the appearance that you're intense, even menacing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
No way Bowen (who's defense was obviously aided by Duncan's mere presence behind him) not winning one tops Duncan not winning one. In fact, I'd have a hard time ever giving a perimeter player the award because no matter how good they are, they can't match the impact of an elite big.
Duncan not having at least a few is the biggest awards oversight I can think of, in any sport. People can knock the most common defensive metrics all they want (and for sure, they're flawed), but the fact that he's at or near the top of all of them and has either anchored or co-anchored a bunch of the greatest single season defenses in league history and hasn't won one is laughable.
What did you disagree with?:lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
Disagree. This same media claims a new LeBron kobe mj every year. This media still glorifies ppg and aau... come on manQuote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
Stupid media award.. Jordan got one but not Pippen.. It's all the media..
Obviously there's still an abundance of stupid media members, most of them are still from the antiquated coverage of the NBA, but most of the "new media" members actually use quantifiable numbers and logic to vote for awards, etc(like Zach Lowe, for instance)..Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
There will always be the media members that overhype Kobe for unquantifiable traits like his "will to win":lol..
Marc Gasol wasn't a bad choice, at all..he was a little overrated as an overall player that year, but his choice as DPOY was fine, he earned it..
Realistically, you couldn't have given it to Timmy that season, as Gasol played a much higher amount of minutes, which can't be ignored..a difference of 700 minutes played is a huge disparity..
The media is worse nowadays, its Lebron cock sucking around the clockQuote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston
Unfortunately for Pippen his best defensive years came during a great age of defensive centers where beasts like Olajuwon, Robinson, Mutombo, and Mourning were roaming the paint racking up blocks. I thought Pippen was a lock for DPOY in '95 considering the Bulls frontline was decimated for most of the season and he still anchored that team to the #2 ranked defense but Mutombo's 4 block average and trademark finger wag was too much for the media to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbreiden83080
As opposed to Kobe cock sucking?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
The difference now is that we have much more media outlets to get our basketball coverage and information..there's also a different breed of media that follows every team, not just the Heat, Lakers, etc(like the previous media)..
The NBA coaches voted Noah and Chandler ahead of Gasol for All-NBA. In fact, if they hadn't tied, Gasol wouldn't have made second team. This is the same year the media gave him DPOY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik Hairston