Why do working-class Americans vote Republican?

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Originally Posted by Th'Pusher

Immigrants on visas can vote?

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It isn't necessarily about the next election. There's a longer game being played here.

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Originally Posted by Uriel

I am Asian. But I'm currently residing in Australia.

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Love Australia. :tu

Economist Intelligence Unit likes AU

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/...?frame=2311083

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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan

The working class white people who vote Republican do so chiefly and solely because they fear other races, the gay menace, and the end of belief in the Christian religious myth.

Most working-class conservative white people think Barry Hussein Obungo is about to enlist neggers\s to terrorist fist-jab their grandmothers to death with their huge negger penises while their gay homeboys sodomize their pure, white sons. They think Obungo is going to let all the Mexicans in to take all the jobs at the factories and coal mines for half the accepted pay rate. They think all the pure, white daughters of the United States are going to stop following Jesus, start smoking weed and get pregnant by Tyrone (all by the SAME Tyrone) if one more governmental seat anywhere is taken by a librul. They think Obungo is going to have a mural of Allah fucking Jesus up the ass painted on outside of the White House if he makes it to his last official day in office.

They think libruls want to take all their guns and forcibly abort their pure, white fetuses.

They think Mitt Romney, Jamie Dimon and Sam Walton's kids are going to come together and ensure that their kids grow up to be pure, white billionaires...but only if libruls like Obungo are kept out of the way, their secret terrorist plots to destroy America foiled.


Meanwhile, here in reality, Democrat and Republican politicians pretend to be fighting while they scheme together to rile up the Republican base to distract the Democrat base with stupid non-arguments like "Gay sex is eviiiiillll. Jesus said it!" With the distractions over no-brainer social issues in place, the politicians and economic elite can buy time and hoard resources with relatively no one noticing in preparation to ditch this country and its tribalistic, mostly uneducated populace just before the final economic collapse occurs.

Here in reality, there are no "terrorist fist-jabs". There are no death panels for grandma. Factory work has been and will continue to be shipped overseas where people not raised in a first-world country will work for $2 a day. I guess you just can't pass up labor that cheap, even if it means selling out your soul and your country.

Here in reality, gay dudes don't want to fuck the Rascal Scooter Society. I'm not even gay, but I know this because it goes without saying to everyone with a properly functioning brain.

Here in reality, people like weed because it's a drug that doesn't get people killed and they don't get why it's illegal when alcohol isn't.

Here in reality, young people are quitting religion because they've realized their parents were full of shit and that religion kinda makes you do stupid things like pretending to eat a guy's body (or worse, like blowing up a clinic) if you take it too far.

Here in reality...yeah...some white girls will fuck Tyrone. That's true, but it's no big deal.

Here in reality, no one is going to take away the guns...but those guns won't save the populace if the military is loyal to the government.

Here in reality, no one is going to force abortions....for at least another 65 years. At some point, the overpopulation vs resources thing will be addressed. It will be too little too late, but a policy of limiting families will come into play and it won't be Obungo doing it.

And lastly, here in reality, rich people don't give a fuck about you or your kids and the richest of the rich people will be getting the fuck out of the States long before their voting base has realized shit has really and truly hit the fan.



But anyway, there is the answer to this thread's question. Your average, working-class Republican voter is operated, ruled and controlled by unsubstantiated and unmitigated fear, which is ginned up as a distraction from a dying economy and the intention of those in power to escape certain death alone, when the time is right.

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Never go full boutons-level retard.

The entire Repug "appeal" is fear, anger, emotions: god/guns/gays/abortion/xenophobia/racism/Christian-hating/hate-govt.

The entire Repug govt policy range: cut taxes for wealthy/corps, screw up govt so people hate it, cut regulation so corporations and finance can loot people, the planet, environment, and of course bomb the shit out of anybody with oil.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

The entire Repug "appeal" is fear, anger, emotions: god/guns/gays/abortion/xenophobia/racism/Christian-hating/hate-govt.

The entire Repug govt policy range: cut taxes for wealthy/corps, screw up govt so people hate it, cut regulation so corporations and finance can loot people, the planet, environment, and of course bomb the shit out of anybody with oil.

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smh

lol Do people around here think the average working-class Republican voter is informed?

They don't know much of anything, least of all what's going on in their government. They literally get told that Democrats want to set up special councils to choose which Republican old white woman is going to be killed off and so they freak the fuck out.

It's retarded.

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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan

lol Do people around here think the average working-class Republican voter is informed?

They don't know much of anything, least of all what's going on in their government. They literally get told that Democrats want to set up special councils to choose which Republican old white woman is going to be killed off and so they freak the fuck out.

It's retarded.

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You're smart

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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan

lol Do people around here think the average working-class Republican voter is informed?

They don't know much of anything, least of all what's going on in their government. They literally get told that Democrats want to set up special councils to choose which Republican old white woman is going to be killed off and so they freak the fuck out.

It's retarded.

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And Democrats get told the rest of the Globe is open to homosexuality, multiculturalism and feminism. When in reality the Democrats represent one of the most left leaning parties on this Globe and their ideals are extremes.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

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You're smart

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So...nothing of value to say?

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Originally Posted by Infinite_limit

And Democrats get told the rest of the Globe is open to homosexuality, multiculturalism and feminism. When in reality the Democrats represent one of the most left leaning parties on this Globe and their ideals are extremes.

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I imagine most (read: all) Democrat voters know that the entire world isn't all about freedom. The funny thing about that though is that American Democrat voters tend to live in the U.S.

You're the same guy from the other day who was butthurt about athlete salaries...

I assumed this was where the bright people of Spurstalk hung out.

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Originally Posted by Uriel

The xenophobia over immigrants in this thread is appalling. Many of these so-called "third world" immigrants are wealthier, more successful, and better educated than the average American.

For instance, Asian-Americans, on average, have a higher annual household income, higher educational attainment, higher IQ, and greater occupational prestige than the average American—including whites. Just look at all the Asians in Ivy League universities. These people are literally wealthier, smarter, and more educated (read: better) than you (working-class whites). And yet, you have the gall to be disgusted by their presence?

You people should consider yourselves lucky America is still able to attract top-tier talent from all over the world.

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...and these wealthy Asians generally vote Democratic, ostensibly against their own economic self interest. Odd. Can you explain that?

There are lots of dumb Asians. The thing is, they're all still in Asia.

People don't always vote for self interest, and when they do, it's not always monetary self-interest. The desire to conserve tradition is also self-interest, to some extent, as is the desire to break tradition.

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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan

lol Do people around here think the average working-class Republican voter is informed?

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I'd say they are more informed than average non-working Democratic voter.

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

^its this sort of mentality that holds american politics back.

it has literally boiled down to 2 sides that basically say the same shit...

"the people on the other side are mental midgets and can't accept reality. they're dumb and have bought into brainwashing propaganda!"

the hilarious thing is both sides view it JUST like that

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I agree that the christian right holds politics back by getting people to vote against their apparent self interests in the name of social values that are never addressed and have no basis in objective reality to begin with.

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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan

I imagine most (read: all) Democrat voters know that the entire world isn't all about freedom. The funny thing about that though is that American Democrat voters tend to live in the U.S.

You're the same guy from the other day who was butthurt about athlete salaries...

I assumed this was where the bright people of Spurstalk hung out.

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I said favor homosexuality, multiculturalism and feminism. Said nothing about "freedom"

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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex

I'd say they are more informed than average non-working Democratic voter.

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The non-working Democrat voter? Well, that's not a very high bar is it? And I wouldn't trust that your average working-class Republican voters are any better informed than those folks who vote Democrat and don't work.

They believe themselves to be more informed than the average non-working voter, that's for sure, but the majority of non-working and working-class Republican voters can't really be considered informed if they have been mislead and purposefully given "information" that is false.

I'd also argue that there aren't many non-working folks that vote on either side of the aisle. 43% of eligible Americans decline to vote. It stands to reason that a good percentage of these people are part of the group that doesn't go to work every day.

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Originally Posted by 101A

...and these wealthy Asians generally vote Democratic, ostensibly against their own economic self interest. Odd. Can you explain that?

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I can, because I'm one of them. We have a vision of an egalitarian society—one that will treat all people equally, regardless of their race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or any other factor that only serves to divide people. As Martin Luther King said, "I have a dream that one day, people will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." To that end, we're willing to vote for economic policies that will further that vision. And the Democrats, when they support the raising of the minimum wage, pay equality for men and women, and tax rates that ask people from various income levels to pay their fair share, all help to realize that vision. In other words, we're willing to vote against our economic self-interest in order to achieve a fairer and more just society for everyone.

Which is why I can't understand why working-class Republicans would want to vote for a society that disproportionately favors the wealthy at their expense.

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Originally Posted by Uriel

I can, because I'm one of them. We have a vision of an egalitarian society—one that will treat all people equally, regardless of their race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or any other factor that only serves to divide people. As Martin Luther King said, "I have a dream that one day, people will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." To that end, we're willing to vote for economic policies that will further that vision. And the Democrats, when they support the raising of the minimum wage, pay equality for men and women, and tax rates that ask people from various income levels to pay their fair share, all help to realize that vision. In other words, we're willing to vote against our economic self-interest in order to achieve a fairer and more just society for everyone.

Which is why I can't understand why working-class Republicans would want to vote for a society that disproportionately favors the wealthy at their expense.

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Utopian fantasy centered around unlimited resources. And oblivious to human natures tendency to divide and conquer.

Why not go all the way and tomorrow reel in 100 Million global refugees and house, feed and educate them? Judgmental to favor immigrants with the money & connections to fly over with a Visa isn't it?

MLK's dream is already happening. College degree, work experience and networking has no skin color bias

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Originally Posted by Infinite_limit

Utopian fantasy centered around unlimited resources. And oblivious to human natures tendency to divide and conquer.

Why not go all the way and tomorrow reel in 100 Million global refugees and house, feed and educate them? Judgmental to favor immigrants with the money & connections to fly over with a Visa isn't it?

MLK's dream is already happening. College degree, work experience and networking has no skin color bias

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You can choose to be cynical about this "utopian" vision for all I care. That's your choice. But at least the Democrats are working to realize it. The Republicans, on the other hand, in supporting right-winged economic policies, seem to be doing the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

How do the republicans want to screw me?

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They want to deprive millions of Americans of health insurance by repealing Medicare. They don't want to help the poor by opposing the raising of the minimum wage. They want to make sure millionaires and billionaires pay a lower tax rate than your mom and pop.

If that isn't screwing you, I don't know what is.

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Originally Posted by Uriel

You can choose to be cynical about this "utopian" vision for all I care. That's your choice. But at least the Democrats are working to realize it. The Republicans, on the other hand, in supporting right-winged economic policies, seem to be doing the opposite.

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I use to believe in your paragraph. And to an extent I still do which is why I'm moving to Europe. But "socialism" doesn't work in a Multicultural nation. You need it to remain a cut throat place that makes or breaks people.

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Originally Posted by Uriel

They want to deprive millions of Americans of health insurance by repealing Medicare. They don't want to help the working-class by opposing the raising of the minimum wage. They want to make sure millionaires and billionaires pay a lower tax rate than your mom and pop.

If that isn't screwing you, I don't know what is.

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immigration hurts the working class a lot harder than a few rich guys paying less tax but you wouldn't care about that because you're a shillbot and you've been told what to think. I'm just hoping for both sides to be hung and shot in mass during a national revolution

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Originally Posted by Uriel

They want to deprive millions of Americans of health insurance by repealing Medicare. They don't want to help the working-class by opposing the raising of the minimum wage. They want to make sure millionaires and billionaires pay a lower tax rate than your mom and pop.

If that isn't screwing you, I don't know what is.

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You think working class is making min wage?

:lmao

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Originally Posted by Uriel

You can choose to be cynical about this "utopian" vision for all I care. That's your choice. But at least the Democrats are working to realize it. The Republicans, on the other hand, in supporting right-winged economic policies, seem to be doing the opposite.

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The DNC needs to hire better shills, this one is too obvious....