St. Louis....here we go again. White officer shoots unarmed suspect, rioting, etc.

The Incredible Power Of ‘Off Duty’ Cops

Individuals employed as police officers typically carry their police powers 24 hours a day in their jurisdiction, whether they’re on the job or not. That includes the power to arrest, use force, and the power to shoot. But they are explicitly hired to use this power “off duty” when private firms contract with them to perform security work.

When the St. Louis officer stopped Myers on the street, he was working a second job for a security company. The vehicle in which he followed Myers was marked with the name of the company, not a police car. And scenarios like this are increasingly common. Police officers are desirable for private security jobs precisely because they carry their training and police power wherever they go, and many police departments encourage their cops to take on secondary employment, University of Missouri-St. Louis criminology professor David Klinger explained to ThinkProgress.

At least in most major cities and counties, officers are typically required to have those jobs cleared with the police department, which may set its own rules about how and when cops can take second jobs. This means police departments consent to have officers acting as law enforcement officials in these other capacities,

In some cities, police departments even set up a database in coordination with local employers that officers can access if they want to work extra hours. John DeCarlo, now a criminal justice professor at John Jay College, said when he was a police chief in Branford, Connecticut, his department even acted as a “broker” of sorts, coordinating payments between private entities and officers for a fee, and considered officers working those jobs to be working for the police department while they did the private work. In New York City, under a program called “Paid for Hire,” the NYPD reportedly gets a 10 percent cut for serving in a similar broker role. Because police carry their law enforcement authority with them, these gigs are part of a trend toward privatization of police. And the rules and circumstances are not always the same.

The St. Louis Metropolitan Department explained the work of its unnamed officer this way in a statement: “To clarify, secondary employment allows officers to work security in uniform and carry their department-issued weapons. The officer, while not on duty for the Police Department, still has the same responsibilities and power to affect arrest and the officer operates in the capacity as a St. Louis Police Officer. St. Louis Police Officers work secondary for securities companies, business establishments, sporting events, etc.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...-was-off-duty/

corporations + fully empowered rent-a-cops, what could go wrong?

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We get it. You have a blanket dismissal ready for anything King says. You are pretty dumb so it makes sense that you worry about being tricked.

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I have to thank you again for introducing me to Shaun King, he constantly provides entertainment with his twitter detective work.

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The Incredible Power Of ‘Off Duty’ Cops

Individuals employed as police officers typically carry their police powers 24 hours a day in their jurisdiction, whether they’re on the job or not. That includes the power to arrest, use force, and the power to shoot. But they are explicitly hired to use this power “off duty” when private firms contract with them to perform security work.

When the St. Louis officer stopped Myers on the street, he was working a second job for a security company. The vehicle in which he followed Myers was marked with the name of the company, not a police car. And scenarios like this are increasingly common. Police officers are desirable for private security jobs precisely because they carry their training and police power wherever they go, and many police departments encourage their cops to take on secondary employment, University of Missouri-St. Louis criminology professor David Klinger explained to ThinkProgress.

At least in most major cities and counties, officers are typically required to have those jobs cleared with the police department, which may set its own rules about how and when cops can take second jobs. This means police departments consent to have officers acting as law enforcement officials in these other capacities,

In some cities, police departments even set up a database in coordination with local employers that officers can access if they want to work extra hours. John DeCarlo, now a criminal justice professor at John Jay College, said when he was a police chief in Branford, Connecticut, his department even acted as a “broker” of sorts, coordinating payments between private entities and officers for a fee, and considered officers working those jobs to be working for the police department while they did the private work. In New York City, under a program called “Paid for Hire,” the NYPD reportedly gets a 10 percent cut for serving in a similar broker role. Because police carry their law enforcement authority with them, these gigs are part of a trend toward privatization of police. And the rules and circumstances are not always the same.

The St. Louis Metropolitan Department explained the work of its unnamed officer this way in a statement: “To clarify, secondary employment allows officers to work security in uniform and carry their department-issued weapons. The officer, while not on duty for the Police Department, still has the same responsibilities and power to affect arrest and the officer operates in the capacity as a St. Louis Police Officer. St. Louis Police Officers work secondary for securities companies, business establishments, sporting events, etc.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...-was-off-duty/

corporations + fully empowered rent-a-cops, what could go wrong?

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Don't shoot at a rent-a-cop and you will live to see another day, I guarantee it.

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Don't shoot at a rent-a-cop and you will live to see another day, I guarantee it.

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why was the rent-a-cop spooking/suspecting the 3 non-threatening blacks guys? My guess it's pure cop entertainment.

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why was the rent-a-cop spooking/suspecting the 3 non-threatening blacks guys? My guess it's pure cop entertainment.

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Being spooked/suspected justifies shooting at a cop?

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I have to thank you again for introducing me to Shaun King, he constantly provides entertainment with his twitter detective work.

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In response to the police misrepresenting the distance from truck to car all you have is "DERP SHAUN KIND DERP" when any dimwit can see it is over 100 feet and actually closer to 140. Wave your hands at his name some more, we just love seeing how you go about confirmation bias.

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Being spooked/suspected justifies shooting at a cop?

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he wasn't obviously a cop, was in a company car, not a cop car.

this story is fishy and is looking like a cover up so far. the story from the STLPD has changed over and over and over. first they say he had a gun, all he had on him was a sammich. they say he had on a hoodie, footage from the sammich shop shows him wearing a tee shirt, they say he was hiding in bushes(there are no bushes in the area cops say he jumped from) and ambushed the cop with gunfire( cops love the bushes angle, ie trayvon) and now they're saying he fell to the ground and fired at the cops from the ground.

but i guess people will continue to make excuses for cops like they're perfect and never fucc up. a kid was shot 17 fucking times and they want me to believe that roody poo story. i was born at night, not last night.

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this story is fishy and is looking like a cover up so far. the story from the STLPD has changed over and over and over. first they say he had a gun, all he had on him was a sammich. they say he had on a hoodie, footage from the sammich shop shows him wearing a tee shirt, they say he was hiding in bushes(there are no bushes in the area cops say he jumped from) and ambushed the cop with gunfire( cops love the bushes angle, ie trayvon) and now they're saying he fell to the ground and fired at the cops from the ground.

but i guess people will continue to make excuses for cops like they're perfect and never fucc up. a kid was shot 17 fucking times and they want me to believe that roody poo story. i was born at night, not last night.

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Haha. Wannabe thugs get thug treatment

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In response to the police misrepresenting the distance from truck to car all you have is "DERP SHAUN KIND DERP" when any dimwit can see it is over 100 feet and actually closer to 140. Wave your hands at his name some more, we just love seeing how you go about confirmation bias.

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I enjoy Shaun King's confirmation bias a bit more.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

he wasn't obviously a cop, was in a company car, not a cop car.

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He was in uniform.

Regardless of that...what justifies Myer's shooting at anyone? You obviously think he was justified, explain yourself.

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Originally Posted by Trill Clinton

this story is fishy and is looking like a cover up so far. the story from the STLPD has changed over and over and over. first they say he had a gun, all he had on him was a sammich. they say he had on a hoodie, footage from the sammich shop shows him wearing a tee shirt, they say he was hiding in bushes(there are no bushes in the area cops say he jumped from) and ambushed the cop with gunfire( cops love the bushes angle, ie trayvon) and now they're saying he fell to the ground and fired at the cops from the ground.

but i guess people will continue to make excuses for cops like they're perfect and never fucc up. a kid was shot 17 fucking times and they want me to believe that roody poo story. i was born at night, not last night.

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What's your twitter handle. I'm looking for more followers/people to follow. Follow me @ ChumpDumper.

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He was in uniform.

Regardless of that...what justifies Myer's shooting at anyone? You obviously think he was justified, explain yourself.

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you can't say that Myer knew it was cop when Myer started to run. It looks like the cop was still SAFELY in his company car when Myer started running.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

In response to the police misrepresenting the distance from truck to car all you have is "DERP SHAUN KIND DERP" when any dimwit can see it is over 100 feet and actually closer to 140. Wave your hands at his name some more, we just love seeing how you go about confirmation bias.

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Shaun King is in full derp mode right now on twitter. Funny he never once mentions that Myers was armed and shot first, not once. He's blabbering on about bushes and Myers not having a hoodie on when buying a sandwich. Too bad that faggot blocked me on twitter. Fuzzy I hope you don't mind that I'll have to use my fuzzylumpkins twitter handle now to ask him some questions.

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you can't say that Myer knew it was cop when Myer started to run. It looks like the cop was still SAFELY in his company car when Myer started running.

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Why would Myers run if it he didn't think it was a cop?

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Why would Myers run if it he didn't think it was a cop?

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if he thought was some rival, gang member(s), or any other threat. Cops aren't only fatally scary threats for blacks. You right-wingers lover to point out black on black crime (but never white on white crime, and esp not white man on white girlfriend murder).

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if he thought was some rival, gang member(s) :lmao , or any other threat. Cops aren't only fatally scary threats for blacks. You right-wingers lover to point out black on black crime (but never white on white crime, and esp not white man on white girlfriend murder).

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Shaun King now writes for the reputable daily kos :lol

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/1...onDerrit-Myers#

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Shaun King is in full derp mode right now on twitter. Funny he never once mentions that Myers was armed and shot first, not once. He's blabbering on about bushes and Myers not having a hoodie on when buying a sandwich. Too bad that faggot blocked me on twitter. Fuzzy I hope you don't mind that I'll have to use my fuzzylumpkins twitter handle now to ask him some questions.

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More hand-waving and mental masturbation.

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More hand-waving and mental masturbation.

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Do you have any questions you want me to ask him?

pic from the sammich shop minutes before being gunned dine. vonderrit on the left, pants saggin' dine to his ankles wearing a extra smedium black tee. now the cops say he was wearing a hoodie and carrying a gun. WHERE IN THE FUCK IS THE HOODIE AND HOW IN THE FUCK IS HE CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON WEARING BAGGY PANTS AND A BABY TEE????

one of you white supremacists care to explain?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...h_footage_.JPG

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Originally Posted by Trill Clinton

a kid was shot 17 fucking times and they want me to believe that roody poo story.

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Nobody was shot 17 times fam.

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pic from the sammich shop minutes before being gunned dine. vonderrit on the left, pants saggin' dine to his ankles wearing a extra smedium black tee. now the cops say he was wearing a hoodie and carrying a gun. WHERE IN THE FUCK IS THE HOODIE AND HOW IN THE FUCK IS HE CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON WEARING BAGGY PANTS AND A BABY TEE????

one of you white supremacists care to explain?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...h_footage_.JPG

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Drinking the Shaun King koolaid I see.

Seriously, who gives a shit what he was wearing in the store. He wasn't killed in the store.

Is it so hard for you to believe a guy wearing a monitoring device for a previous gun charge would be carrying a gun? smh

MYERS , VONDERRIT DEONDRE , Defendant represented by COHEN , PETER MICHAEL , Attorney for Defendant
4226 CASTLEMAN AVE
SAINT LOUIS, MO 63110

Year of Birth: 1996 2734 LAYFAYETTE
SAINT LOUIS, MO 63104

Description: Unlawful Use Of A Weapon (Subsections 1 - 4) { Felony D RSMo: 571.030 }
Date: 06/27/2014 Code: 3102000
OCN: CJ001706 Arresting Agency: ST LOUIS METROPOLITAN POLICE

lol this level of denial is hilarious. Did u see what he was wearing? He was just eating a sandwich he couldn't have been carrying a gun!

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lol this level of denial is hilarious. Did u see what he was wearing? He was just eating a sandwich he couldn't have been carrying a gun!

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It is sad really, they riot regardless of facts.
More sad to see the white guilt crowd defending the thug tbh.