16 teams have enough cap room to simply absorb Splitter. Another 9 are 1 simple move away from having the space.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
It's called cap space.
Look it up.
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16 teams have enough cap room to simply absorb Splitter. Another 9 are 1 simple move away from having the space.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
It's called cap space.
Look it up.
The Spurs don't need any team to "absorb" Tiago's salary in their capspace. He's a valuable player. This is what apparently is flying above your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
Op lists Anderson as a back-up.
This is a serious question. I have begun to wonder about Anderson as a long-term player. He has had some moments, which I fear are attributable to teams not having scouted him seriously because he is a rarely-used rookie.
Once he starts playing regularly, though, I don't see him able to guard perimeter guys because they can blow past him. I don't see him able to dribble penetrate without losing the ball because he 1) dribbles too high and 2) is sooooooo slow.
Both Kawhi and Danny have improved immensely over the last couple of years in being able to dribble and finish. I used to just cringe whenever either of them tried. But I'm not sure Anderson can improve that much because of his speed (or lack of). I think speed is kind of like tall - you can't teach it. And I don't see him getting faster.
I hope I'm wrong. I certainly am thrilled to see how much Green and Leonard have improved their dribbling and finishing, but both of them are fast. Just not sure about Anderson.
Marc Gasol is more valuable. This is apparently flying above yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
If the Spurs feel Marc Gasol is willing to come to the Spurs, they can use Tiago in a S&T. There's no scenario where salary dumping Tiago makes sense for the Spurs to obtain Gasol's services.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
Marc Gasol has also unequivocally stated he would like to stay in Memphis when his current deal is done.
We won't know much about Anderson until his 2nd or 3rd season with the team. It's fairly clear the Spurs are taking their time with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
Well you are, of course, right about it taking longer to decide for sure. I understand and agree. Certainly the first two years of Cojo did not predict the level of his contribution to most of us (kudos to RobDiaz of course for seeing the talent before many of the rest of us), and I already mentioned the strides that both Leonard and Green have made under the development of the Spurs' coaching staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
My biggest question was the one I raised, i.e., about his sloooooooow movement, and my concern regarding the extent to which a different 'rate' can be taught. I do not doubt that they will try to teach him the best use of his talents, as they have done with Green and Leonard.
As I said, I hope I am as pleasantly surprised in a couple of years by his contribution as I have been impressed with the progress that both Green and Leonard made over the last few years as Spurs.
next years team without Duncan is :vomit:
Exact same height as Draymond Green, same weight, bigger wingspan and standing reach, about the same vertical, as good if not better rebounder.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Eh I've got some time lets take a closer look at what your saying to see if my comprehension really is off.
Of course you do, but that isn't what your post is saying. If we dump Splitter for peanuts as you propose we get the chance to sign Gasol, however the Spurs don't automatically get Gasol. And given Gasol has no connection to SA, his team is still a contender, he hasn't shown or given any indication he would like to come to SA or leave Memphis, and the fact that it is in his best interest financially to stay...well pretty much every factor would seem to indicate that he isn't coming to SA but rather is staying in Memphis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
But lets say he's a closet Spurs fan and is willing to sign for the Max in the Offseason and move on.
You've gotta let me know your secret for predicting the future because so far this season Ginobili has been a positive by every single statistical measurement. His PER is 16.85 which is above the league average and higher than Parker and Green, he's 10th in the league among all SG in RPM at 2.63 meaning the Spurs are almost 3 point differential better when he is playing. But maybe its not translating into wins....Wait he has a Wins-Above-Replacement value of 2.42 literally meaning that Spurs would lose 2-3 games by replacing him with a replacement level (i.e. bench) player. Oh look, he's also got a Win-Share of 1.9, again literally meaning that the Spurs would have 2 wins less so far in the season without Ginobili.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
So somehow Manu playing next year going to cost us wins and make us a lottery team despite there being no evidence to suggest it either in the past or during this current season.
He could. No reason why he would because he could either play for the Spurs or another team if he wanted more money, or he could retire if he wanted the time off. But if Duncan decides to retire its not going to be because he really wants to play but has too much money so he wants to give the Spurs a discount for a season or two, and there no indication he wants to just chase rings. He's said that he'll play until he can't (wheels falling off) or until he doesn't have a passion for it. Neither of those is saying he'll play for less than the role players. But again, there is nothing in the rules strictly forbidding it, its just a really really really dumb assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
How is a player whom the Spurs can make a restricted free agent gone regardless? That is literally one of the few mechanisms available to NBA teams to KEEP the players they want on their respective teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
Now you could be right about him not being worth more than his cap-hold and it does tie up capspace until he's re-signed. That could be overcome by A) renouncing him and re-signing him later or B) agreeing to a new contract immediately on the FA period starts, but again it could hamper the Spurs shopping. That being said the need any capspace is tied to the likelihood of signing a superior free agent in this case Gasol, which again is extremely unlikely.
Now cklbmk I want you to pay special attention to this next sentence because contained within is a valuable lesson. YOU CREATED THE @#$%ing NEED when you let Joseph walk in FA for nothing to free up capspace. Oh by the way you also created a few more since now the Spurs no longer have a backup SG with Ginobili and Marco gone, and the fact that your listed replacement is a 6'10 forward (they also have to resign Danny Green while extending Kawhi). Luckily the Spurs have depth in the front court since you've replaced Splitter with a D-league player who has yet to get called up to the NBA, although I should mention that I do question the defensive speed of a Duncan/Gasol front court.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
Anyways I'm pretty sure I've proven there isn't anything wrong with my comprehension. On a more serious note though, its hard to tell whether this was just a poor troll attempt or the ramblings of a special needs child (read: retarded). In any case, I can't say I would be happy with this lineup opening day next year but I do look forward to your response filled with obscenities and/or gay/racial slurs.
(drops the mic and exits the room)
Wrong. Memphis tries to play hard ball and wont sign and trade. Thus dumping commenceQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
what hard ball? They're gonna max him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
Clearly this is under the assumption he doesn't want to stay there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
“I’ve always said Memphis is my home away from home,” Gasol said. “Robert (Pera, Grizzlies owner) knows that. I know that. My teammates know that and that’s all that matters. I live day to day but I don’t see myself anywhere else.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Cklbmk
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...pires-in-2015/
Parker/Mills/Cojo
Green/ Manu/draft pick shooter
Kawhi/Anderson/Mbah a Moute
Duncan/Jerebko/Boris
Splitter/Whiteside/Baynes
I love Gasol, Millsap, & Draymond Green but I don't see them leaving their teams. These 3 FAs would be affordable & plausible.
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Originally Posted by hater
But you said the same thing last year... before they won the NBA championship.
Yup. He's been in Memphis since he was a teen. Played high school ball there. Pretty much his hometown at this point. No way he's leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
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he's done
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IMHO Duncan needs to be treated like Parish in his last couple of years. A legend that is pretty much done.
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IMHO Splitter needs to take all TD's minutes and TD needs to come from the bench. IMHO
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at this stage. in my humble opinion Splitter > Duncan.
simples as that
This is the genius of hater.Quote:
BTW, I'm not saying Duncan is worse than Blair, Bonner.
Our frontline is complete shit. I'm shocked we even compete.
Splitter >> Duncan >>>>> Blair >>>>>>>>> Bonner
damn!
lol what a dumb thread... timmy is retiring after this year.