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Who's team is it?
peter holt's
Who gives a fuck, pussy
This shtick sucks.
lolutsa
I don't like the idea of a player being the "team" but you'd have to be either a mainstream big 3 fan or just a total moron to not think Kawhi is the best Player in the team.
Pop's
TD
The fact that you would frame the question this way shows that you don't understand the concept the Spurs strive for.
Fkla is one of the best posters in this site and one of the very few Team fans..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bones
He's a real fan not a mainstream big 3 fan like most people.
I agree, but he framed the question badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Tim Duncan is the undisputed leader of this team and if one person deserves the distinction it's him. However, KL is undoubtedly the best all - around player on the team imo.
This team is filled with all - around (complete) players who can play multiple positions.
Kawhi is the best all around player, but he's also humble and intelligent. If Pop or Duncan advised him to do something differently, he'd listen. If you went up to Kawhi personally and said, "The Spurs are YOUR TEAM," he'd shake his head at you and say, "no way, man, that's not how it works...."
:lol Nobody had a problem calling it Enrique's team not too long ago. Now all of a sudden calling it a player's team goes against the Spurs mantra.
Also obviously Timmy will always be the emotional leader as long as he's here. I'm clearly referring to strictly basketball. Funny how Timmy being the emotional leader also never prevented people from calling it Enrique's team for a year or two. The player fans are really showing their true colors with the double standard smh.
I never called them Tony's team...The whole point of liking the Spurs is understanding the team concept. Your argument is that other people did something wrong, so that's why you're asking the question in this way. It's still wrong, and kind of turns you into a "player fan" yourself, even if in your case he is currently the best all around player on the roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Duncan
Hard to believe anybody could say Manu is the leader at this point in his career...in 2011, sure, but not now.
It's either TD or Kawhi, leaning toward TD. I'm inclined to think that if TD had gone down with an injury of comparable severity to Kawhi's, the spurs would be in a similar or worse position to where they are now.
Big 3 mainstream fans bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
Again, you'd have to be a dumbass not to think Kawhi is the best player..
And yeah people called it Tony's team..:lol
This is why Kawhi is so underrated because your mainstream Big 3 fan still lives in 2010..
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Originally Posted by Arc
San Antonio's team.
Mainstream big 3 fans living in the past..
:lmao
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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
There's a difference between saying one guy is the best player on a team and the say the team IS HIS. You know this is true, and you're being coy by making believe it's the same thing. Paul Millsap is a great and under-appreciated player, but it would be out of character for him to proclaim, "The Hawks are MY team! This is why we're good."
What I see again and again here is people saying Kawhi's the best player on the roster, and you replying that everyone is stupid and "mainstream." Let's face it, you have a compulsive personality and tend to get stuck on Kawhi to the point where even Kawhi's other fans are saying, "how many times are you going to start threads about how Kawhi is the best player on the roster now?" We agree, we agree!
My. :clap
Many people think Tim or Tony are still the best players in the team...
:lol
Was going to vote Kawhi until I saw Pippen's name there--blecch. Pippen's a good defender and all but Leonard will be the better overall player by the end of his career.
THE RED MAMBA!
It doesn't matter.
You take any of the first 9 guys away and we're not winning anything in the playoffs.
We couldn't have won without Patty coming on last year.
Danny Green isn't even on the poll and his arrival coincides with and was the initial catalyst for our return to contention. We would be REALLY fucked without Danny.
This is really the truth. We needed everything from everyone of those guys. I change my answer....The Spurs!Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Why do Mainstream fans continue to Parrot this shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
The spurs wouldn't have won 05 without their top 6th or 7th players either...
But Back then it was cool to say This is Tony or Manu or tim team..
Still the common denominator's team-the 5-time champ Duncan.
We were much more top-heavy when the big 3 where in their primes, tbh... but nowadays, it's indisputable what Kawhi's value is to the team.
I agree that Tim is the foundation, Manu the heart of the team, and Tony the steady engine... but father time says that would only work to a .500 record in this day and age...
In a way, it's comforting to see Kawhi taking the reigns of this team, I'm sure it makes it much easier for guys like Tim and Manu to eventually retire, knowing they're leaving the team in good claws...
The 2014 Spurs were perhaps the most codependent championship team in the history of basketball. We pretty much needed everyone. Even Baynes. That's insane to think about.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Sure, every champion needs it's core players, but I don't think we've ever seen anything else like the current Spurs team.
If poll is about most influential player its duncan and that up to his retirement
The phrase this is "Kawhi's team" doesn't take away from that faxt that spurs are unique team it just simply means he is the best player...
OP knows this and that's what he's asking for..Not sure why posters continue to spin things.
What, you think you're some type of hipster just cause you wear crocs?Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Its weird, brah. They had no problem calling it _____'s team when it transitioned from Timmy to Manu to Enrique even though the Spurs have always been an unselfish team. Now all of a sudden its nothing but team this or team that. I think you might be on to something with their inability to let go of the Big 3 dominant era tbh. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Duncan 100% and anyone else is trash.
Yeah, seems like a "hipster" thing going on here. I really love Kawhi, but I also love Timmy and Manu to pieces. Does that make me a lame "mainstream fan?" :wtf
Categorize so as to marginalize and a strawman. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
I will say that the alluding that your 'opponent' is doing what you are in fact doing is a lame schtick. In this case, your Leonard thread du jour belies all this shit and it's too fucking obvious. When xmas and the like try your line they couch it with mountains of spam and circle jerk. At least when they do it it is confusing and flabbergasting. When you do it like you are doing it, it just seems like weak ass shit.
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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
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Originally Posted by Mr Bones
I have as many Manu and Timmy threads in the last 4 years..I am a huge kawhi fan so I make threads about him..Similarly, I'm a huge Tim, Manu fan so I make threads about them.
I love the spurs as a team..Not sure why people are so mad..
Loving and acknowledging is two different things...Leonard doesn't have to be your favorite player, you might even hate him, to acknowledge he is the best spur.
Who's mad? Not me. I'm calmly talking about basketball, basketball analysis, and basketball perceptions.
props on being the biggest troll, brah. Now go lock yourself in a room and fap to Kawhi's highlights (as if you haven't already).Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
You have to acknowledge that TD still has a similar impact to Kawhi if not greater tbh...While Kawhi is clearly more important than Tony and Manu at this point in time, it's not at all clear that he's more important to the spurs' success than TD. Big man defenders are fundamentally more impactful than wing defenders, and TD is one of the top Big man defenders in the league. Actually, he's a DPOY candidate currently (Zach Lowe discussed this last week on a grantland podcast). Add to that TD's scoring and rebounding (just imagine how awful the rebounding would be without him).Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Losing either TD or Kawhi sinks the spurs, no doubt. Losing any of the elite role players also sinks the spurs. But I think it's clear that losing TD would be the most devastating event that could happen to the spurs right now. Without Tim, I sincerely doubt they make the playoffs, or even end up better than a 9 seed. Without Kawhi, it would be tough to make the playoffs but they've proven they can at least stay above water and be a .500 team, probably a first-round out.
TD has been awful defensively in the last 10 games..The spurs have been murdered to the ground with TD guarding the Big man pop and roll without two elite defensive players..Green is one, but the others are awfulQuote:
Originally Posted by Juggity
What are spurs fan watching?
wow
:lol
Either TD or Kawhi. I would say it is still TD's team but by the end of the season it may become Kawhi's team (especially if he continues to play like he did in the Blazers game). I think it's a bit different to ask who is the best player on the Spurs and this is ____'s team. A comparison would be the Heat a few years ago, Lebron was the best player but it was still Wade's team.
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Originally Posted by rasuo214
Good comparison, IMO.
Bro, come on. If you can't acknowledge that TD has had a great season defensively, I'm not sure you've been watching. Big men are the key component of elite defense in the NBA. TD has kept the spurs among the top defensive teams in the NBA even in Kawhi's absence. That might not have been sustainable had kawhi remained injured for longer, but I'd wager that had TD been injured, the spurs' defense would have suffered much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
I've always called it Tim's. In 03 05 07 '11, up until now. Never bought into manu's or tp's hype. It will be kawhi's soon. And yes Kawhi is the best player so sone crybaby here can stfu.
:lol Parker and Evita getting ethered in this thread
lol hipster thread
this shtick sucks :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
yet you can't stop responding...
Why should I not respond? Did you make a law?Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
What a lame hipster comeback attempt. You got your mustache wax on that one.
Kawhi has played in 24 of a possible 42 games averaging 32.1mpg
Tim has played in 36 of a possible 42 games averaging 31.0mpg
Kawhi 15.4ppg, 7.4rpg, 2.6apg, 0.7bpg, 2.0spg 45%FG 19.4PER
Tim 15.0ppg, 10.4rpg, 3.2apg, 2.0bpg, 1.0spg 48%FG 22.0PER
Even if you call it Kawhi's team I think it's pretty clear old man Duncan is holding his own
It was David's team until he retired and it will remains Tim's team until he decides to hang them up.
Either Leonard or TD's, you can see the passing of the torch though. The younger guys rally around Leonard, he elevates their game out there, becoming a real leader.
Ugh, yet another thread ruined by player fans.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
You are so stupid..Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Duncan had a DPOY-level start to the season, but ya, his defense has been really bad for a few weeks now..very evident that the big minutes and large load(on both ends) has taken a toll on him..
He keeps defeating Father Time, but I don't know why anybody would expect consistent defense from a 39-year old C in the fastest/most athletic era of basketball..
Leonard is the best player on the team. No point debating that, he offers so much more than a pretty stat sheet.
With that said, Duncan has the most vocal power over anyone on the team not named Pop. Considering how on the court Duncan isn't much worse than Kawhi, and how Leonard's voice probably means shit right now, I'd give the edge to Duncan.
Are people's egos really so big that we're categorizing different "types" of fandom? "Mainstream fan"? "Team fan"?
Disagree. I think it was tim's the day he wore the Spurs uniform. Proved it in '99 and erased all the questions by winning b2b mvps and a second title. All that before David retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
Bonner's team, tbh..that longevity, tho..
How would you know what was cool to say in 2005? Back then you were 3 years oldQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
If he is the overall better player by the end of his career we have a future all star and HOF player on our team TBH. I would not go that far yet, but I hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by taps
Always the big.
You can take away Kawhis defense and other teams chit on us. we did poorly and would probably not make 50 wins. But we would still be play offs bound.
If you take Tims anchor defense, it leaves us with Splitter who is either injured, or turns up with a tampon. Then its a big drop to Baynes who is a brute at best.
We would lose way more games with Tim out than anyone else.
Pop's
Give Ginobili the ball in crunch time then you will see who's team this is
This thread will be awesome if Kawhi decides to sign a contract with another team in the summer :D
no idea tbh
If no one owns this team, rejuvenated Duncan is its most valuable player.
Oh and having watched both of them: Pippen >> Kawhi on both sides of the court
:lol thread with agenda...
if OP point was to ask who is the best player... why not simply ask who is the best player... 90% would have voted Kawhi but I guess it does not fit with calling out big 3 antiquated fans :rolleyes
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Originally Posted by spurs10
From the moment he dunked out on transition it was obvious.
That's the thing tbh :lol Most of us here don't have a problem with Kawhi as being the best player, that dude's a stud. But some just force opinions into other people's minds imho, this has and always will be Tim's team until he decides to retire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
:lol When did I say you shouldnt respond? Go right ahead. If it is indeed a shtick though you're giving it plenty of attention which seems strange since you think it sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Kawhi's the Machine Gun of the team. He makes them bleed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
i think everyone should know how much your shtick sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
What part of that do you not understand?
lolutsa
lol re-read the post idiot
noone is arguing whether anything does or doesn't suck
This team has always been Tim's :lol Until he leaves, then it'll be someone else's. Will it be KL? Depends on if the spurs can ink him this summer.
I agree. I did quickly vote for Kawhi, but immediately wanted to change my vote to Timmy afterwards, but obviously it was too late. There's no question (imho) that Kawhi holds the keys to the Spurs future (if he decides to remain a Spur)... but "the passing of the torch" hasn't officially happened yet. Until The Big Fundamental's "wheels fall off"-- he's still in command.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
This has been Timmy's team since he started with them in 1997. When he retires, it will be Kawhi's team, no question. The Spurs will be in good hands for years to come. :hat
The upside is that this Spurs team is a TEAM...they move the ball all the time and someone always steps up. Remember, this is the team that obliterated the Miami Heat last year, with the largest combined winning margin in NBA Finals history.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Tim is still the best player. Kawhi is streaky at best in the playoffs and duncan is a consistent 20-10 and huge defensive impact on the floor every night. The only nights he doesn't pull those numbers is when we blow out teams and he doesn't need to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
Carlisle pretty much took kawhi out the game last year in the playoffs. You wouldn't be able to do that to duncan.
Kawhi still has a long way to go. He is second best in this team and far from first.
thread backfire :lmao
WTF is a mainstream big 3 fan :lol does that even fucking exist?? Parker is not the best player on the team. It's definitely Kawhi, but it's far from his team :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Sorry bud but he fucking ain't. Found missing in that dallas series. Good thing we had the big three including fucking duncan to stomp on dallas while everyone is playing like shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
Blazers series he was meh. OKC series he was good and that heat series he was gone for 2 fucking games and we split those 2. Any decent small foward could have given us a 2-0 lead. Sure kawhi did go beast mode the last 3 games because
the heat didn't stick lebron on kawhi for most of those last games. Duncan meanwhile is fucking carrying at dallas okc and overtime and pulling great numbers in the finals. People just take that shit for granted but he is pulling most of the fucking weight.
We do shit when kawhi goes down because the FO fucking decides we don't need one for some fucking reason and decides to play small ball 2 pg or 2 sg line ups.
When duncan sits we can do well because he can be replaced by tiago or any of our back up PF's.
were in the now nigga not last year! Right now!Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
"We do shit when kawhi goes down because the FO fucking decides we don't need one for some fucking reason and decides to play small ball 2 pg or 2 sg line ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
When duncan sits we can do well because he can be replaced by tiago or any of our back up PF's."
You stupid fuck. I even talked about this year.
And kawhi hasn't done shit this year. If anything Duncan is the one consistent rock the spurs can rely on.
Your right. I'm sorry....Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
you dumb faggot I'm not sorry!!!!!!!!
You mad. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
na my nigga we good :lol Your actually a good poster around here. We just have a disagreement on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Ait then . :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YFceL1Jdu7...team-spurs.jpg
Until he retires, it's Tim's team
I disagree tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
tim was the best player imo during last POs. So far tho Spurs are a totally different team when Kawhi is on the floor. Anyway Tim being in this kind of discussion at 38 y/o is just unbelievable tbh
So Duncan was the best player in the playoffs for the spurs last year and you think that'll change this year? Under what assumptions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
Under the impression of half a season tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
half a season of playing 2pg or 2 sg lineups or playing rookies or playing bad players as a SF backup? Playing marco heavy minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
I can kinda see how people are misguided.