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Wait, how come some people here are saying that this was Timmy's team since the very beginning when he was drafted and not D-Rob's? Are you guys basing your opinions on seniority, accolades, best player, favorite player, or what? Then why are you guys so pissed about people saying this is Kawhi's team now even though Timmy was obviously here first? WTF?? Doesn't make any sense. I'm basing my opinions on seniority, btw.
Wow. So I guess this is a best/favorite player thread afterall. What a complete clusterfuck... :lmao
Tim Duncan was a number 1 draft pick, talk of the country, one of the most awaited college players to go pro, expected to be the franchise player that he became. Kawhi was a 15th pick, expected to be a great wing to an old-declining team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legacy
Okay, so you're basing your opinion on accolades.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
It's not an opinion, it's a fact that answers your question :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Legacy
:lol WTF is so funny? Didn't I just say I based my opinion on seniority? I just stated a fact on your opinion. Do you even know what a fact and an opinion is?Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
Full Definition of ACCOLADE
1
a : a ceremonial embrace
b : a ceremony or salute conferring knighthood
2
a : a mark of acknowledgment : award
b : an expression of praise
... That's what you're basing your opinion on, genius.
I love Duncan but you do realize it is 2015 right? Duncan hasn't been a 20-10 guy for a while, playoffs or regular season.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
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Originally Posted by Legacy
Why are you so mad? :lol
You asked a question why people had no problem when Tim was already considered the man when he was drafted and why alot are against Kawhi being "the man" today. I just showed you the difference, the expectations( being the best player in college compared to being a solid wing who couldn't shoot), yes the accolades and those are facts. And not opinions. It isn't even about seniority "genius", it's what the player brings to the team. Rookie TD was already a better player than an old, declining, post-injury DRob. While Kawhi being the best player on the Spurs today, his numbers aren't head-and-shoulders above the production that Duncan makes and is clearly inferior to the emotional and mental strength that the presence of TD gives to the team. Duncan led the team's minutes last year in the playoffs, had the highest ppg and rpg before the finals, etc2. Old Drob wasn't this productive. Thus, it's harder for people now to accept/consider Kawhi being "the man" when a soon to be 39 year old is still putting up the kind of numbers he put up last playoffs and this season.
I really don't know why you got so over emotional over this :lol I considered you as a chill person even have you on my friend's list here :cry
I'm not pissed. You're being obnoxious as usual. Whatever, you're a fucking idiot, and obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
:lol bringing up the friend's list like this is facebook or something
Duncan doesnt take games off in the playoffs. If the team revolved around kawhi we wouldn't have passed the first round.
The irony :lol ok gnsfQuote:
Originally Posted by Legacy
Better than being a BNGNSF anyday. Now get lost and learn some English.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
Does anyone know what legacy is trying to say? There are a myriad of elements people use to choose who is the leader and it doesn't need to be so basic like what he is trying to do.
:lol bringing up the friend's list like this is facebook or something
If the team revolved around anyone they wouldn't have won. They won because they were a team and guys stepped up when they had favorable matchups.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
:lol don't try to rationalize things with him tbh. He'll curse you like that bullied kid back in high schoolQuote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Yeah, I was just being simplistic and basing my opinion on seniority, like I said. Not trying to overthink the question, that's all. And you're right, there are a myriad of elements-- which 100%Dumbshit doesn't seem to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Kawhi's numbers at age 23 are comparable to Pippen's at the same age:Quote:
Originally Posted by romain.star
http://s5.postimg.org/yyeftwuxj/Pipp...ard_age_23.png
holy crap those are some epic statsQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
Boiled down its::Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
FMVPippen: 26
Enrique: 8
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Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
I'm a huge fan of both players, but these stats pretty much prove their own irrelevance. Leonard has a higher ORtg and a lower DRtg, but Pippen has a better VORP. That makes no sense.
Your mom
VORP is a cumulative stat , not a rate stat. It's pretty much meaningless in this comparison(since they've played different amounts of games). If you're dead set on comparing the two using the advanced numbers, BPM is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bones
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Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo
That's just it-- I'm not dead set. Dead set means you don't have an open mind, and I'd say an open mind is the best tool to use in evaluation of a player.
You claimed that ALL the stats were irrelevant based on the VORP discrepancy(which was a dumb comparison to make in the first place). What the hell does ORtg/Drtg have to with VORP in the first place :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bones