Jamychal Green is a PF. Half our roster occupies 2 positions.

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Originally Posted by benstanfield

Not really. That lineup was horseshit and got beaten badly by the equivalent Jazz lineup. That severely limits when you can actually play the victory cigar lineup. Up by 12 with 4 minutes left? Better play our most important players 4 more minutes.

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Not the whole four if the lead sticks -- and that kind of lead is hardly garbage time. The lead tonight was. Are you sure you've been watching the San Antonio Spurs?

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if you want to tell me that playing the most important players ~100 extra minutes each this season doesn't increase their chances of injury then :downspin:

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They've already had to play more because of injuries. That's what happens in the NBA.

Prove to me Kawai's injuries have been from overuse and I will conceded this entire thread.

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Originally Posted by benstanfield

Maybe he worked on his shot. His release is still slow and his highlights are almost all back to the basket post scores. He doesn't seem to have the lateral quickness to guard the three IMO.

it's nice to get rid of Daye and take flyers on potential future prospects. But we now have 7 players to play PF/C and 4 players to play SG/SF. Cojo doesn't work in 2 PG lineups tbh, so unless Pop plans on playing Mills at SG a lot we have almost no insurance or minute eaters on the wing.

Obviously he's only on a 10 day so it's not a big deal. I just have serious doubts about his ability to be effective at the 3. Nothing that I've seen from him in Austin has suggested that he can be an effective wing on either end of the floor. If we have mostly a 3 big rotation in the playoffs, almost 1/3 of our roster is completely redundant.

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Originally Posted by benstanfield

When you're up 25 against a team shooting 30% with 8 minutes to go, having any hyper important piece (Green, Diaw, Slpitter, Kawhi) on the floor is just retarded. You should have minute eaters on the wing and not have to play 3 PFs and a C in garbage time.

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Excellent points. As I've been saying for the longest time, I don't get the obsession this front office has with having such an imbalanced roster. We've seen it for years and at various positions.

If Green shows even a shred of promise in the 20 days (obviously, I'm presuming they'll automatically give him a second 10, unless he looks beyond terrible), then they need to trade or buyout Ayres post deadline. Between Duncan's age, Splitter's lack of durability and the fact that Baynes hadn't shown himself to be anything more than a fringe player entering this season, they can somewhat rationalize having four C's for the majority of the season. But at that point, the majority of the games will be in the rear view.

Besides, as we've seen once again, having another wing defender with size is far more of a need, particularly due to Leonard's own lack of durability. I'd be fine taking a flyer on a fringe prospect like Franklin or even on a vet on his last legs, like Garcia. Anything to balance this mess out.

Just get Marco healthy.

Balance returns.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Not the whole four if the lead sticks -- and that kind of lead is hardly garbage time. The lead tonight was. Are you sure you've been watching the San Antonio Spurs?

They've already had to play more because of injuries. That's what happens in the NBA.

Prove to me Kawai's injuries have been from overuse and I will conceded this entire thread.

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:lol
My thread. I don't give a shit about your goalposts. If you think Kawhi, Danny, and Boris should be on the court when up by 20+ with 7 minutes to go that's on you. Thibs school of lineup management.

:lol Arguing peripheral points and not my actual argument. Make it up by 15 with 4 to go. The lineup we played still would've lost most of that.

:sleep Crazy how rotation management changes when you are healthy vs missing 3-4 players

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Originally Posted by benstanfield

:lol
My thread. I don't give a shit about your goalposts. If you think Kawhi, Danny, and Boris should be on the court when up by 20+ with 7 minutes to go that's on you. Thibs school of lineup management.

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I think outside the injuries, the minutes have been OK. Getting upset about tonight is laughable.

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:lol Arguing peripheral points and not my actual argument. Make it up by 15 with 4 to go. The lineup we played still would've lost most of that.

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Probably not. Feel free to look up all the past lineups if it's important to you.

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:sleep Crazy how rotation management changes when your are healthy vs missing 3-4 players

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So you aren't really arguing anything. Just wait til everyone is healthy again like i told you and don't lose your shit over blowout wins.

I thought he looked fine. It's his first game and he is trying to feel things out. Still an upgrade over Ayres.

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Originally Posted by benstanfield

Maybe he worked on his shot. His release is still slow and his highlights are almost all back to the basket post scores. He doesn't seem to have the lateral quickness to guard the three IMO.

it's nice to get rid of Daye and take flyers on potential future prospects. But we now have 7 players to play PF/C and 4 players to play SG/SF. Cojo doesn't work in 2 PG lineups tbh, so unless Pop plans on playing Mills at SG a lot we have almost no insurance or minute eaters on the wing.

Obviously he's only on a 10 day so it's not a big deal. I just have serious doubts about his ability to be effective at the 3. Nothing that I've seen from him in Austin has suggested that he can be an effective wing on either end of the floor. If we have mostly a 3 big rotation in the playoffs, almost 1/3 of our roster is completely redundant.

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I think the playoff rotation at this point is pretty much set. The Spurs are now going through the garbage bin and trying out talent to see if anybody can eat some mins at the wing. Daye was a lost cause, now we move onto Green.

I just get the feeling the Spurs don't really want to spend much in that area, because whoever they bring will definitely not be in the playoff rotation.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Just get Marco healthy.

Balance returns.

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it's not a coincidence that we are playing our best ball now that he is not healthy.

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Originally Posted by Raven

it's not a coincidence that we are aplying our best ball now that he is not healthy.

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That would have more to do with Kawhi, but nice to see you stick with your agenda to the death.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

That would have more to do with Kawhi, but nice to see you stick with your agenda to the death.

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we were not playing this good at the start of the season and will not play as good when he'll be back if he'll play meaningful minutes.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Just get Marco healthy.

Balance returns.

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No, it doesn't. They'll still have 7 bigs, only one true SF and an active roster that features six bigs, four wings and three PG's. That makes no sense whatsoever, particularly for a team so obsessed with managing minutes, that racks up a lot of blowout wins when healthy.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I think the playoff rotation at this point is pretty much set. The Spurs are now going through the garbage bin and trying out talent to see if anybody can eat some mins at the wing. Daye was a lost cause, now we move onto Green.

I just get the feeling the Spurs don't really want to spend much in that area, because whoever they bring will definitely not be in the playoff rotation.

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It is. We all know the top eight is set and Baynes vs Bonner and Belinelli vs Joseph will be situational. But this isn't about that. It's about, as benstanfield said, having another body to eat minutes on the wing and insurance for Leonard.

Fringe types such as Franklin, Garcia, etc., cost virtually nothing. They'll owe them nothing more than a prorated amount of their minimum, which is based on their experience time.

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Originally Posted by Raven

we were not playing this good at the start of the season and will not play as good when he'll be back if he'll play meaningful minutes.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

nice to see you stick with your agenda to the death.

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No, it doesn't. They'll still have 7 bigs, only one true SF and an active roster that features six bigs, four wings and three PG's. That makes no sense whatsoever, particularly for a team so obsessed with managing minutes, that racks up a lot of blowout wins when healthy.

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So it will be like last season?

I'm OK with that tbh.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

It is. We all know the top eight is set and Baynes vs Bonner and Belinelli vs Joseph will be situational. But this isn't about that. It's about, as benstanfield said, having another body to eat minutes on the wing and insurance for Leonard.

Fringe types such as Franklin, Garcia, etc., cost virtually nothing. They'll owe them nothing more than a prorated amount of their minimum, which is based on their experience time.

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I don't necessarily disagree, but I think if the Spurs wanted to just pay a player which is a well known fringe talent, they would've kept Daye, which was on a reasonable deal. Calling up from the DLeague gives them an opportunity to luck out in talent they might be able to work with longer term, plus I suspect they're getting reports from the affiliate on which prospects might be a good fit.

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I don't necessarily disagree, but I think if the Spurs wanted to just pay a player which is a well known fringe talent, they would've kept Daye, which was on a reasonable deal. Calling up from the DLeague gives them an opportunity to luck out in talent they might be able to work with longer term, plus I suspect they're getting reports from the affiliate on which prospects might be a good fit.

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Plus, if they want to suit up a group that includes 5 bigs, 5 wings, and 3 PGs they just need to sit 2 of the 7 bigs and dress Anderson. (When all 15 players are healthy)

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

So it will be like last season?

I'm OK with that tbh.

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Explain to me how seven bigs and one true SF makes sense.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think if the Spurs wanted to just pay a player which is a well known fringe talent, they would've kept Daye, which was on a reasonable deal. Calling up from the DLeague gives them an opportunity to luck out in talent they might be able to work with longer term, plus I suspect they're getting reports from the affiliate on which prospects might be a good fit.

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Nah, I think they wanted to have the flexibility to look at a D-Leaguer or two and then at the end of the regular season, like they've done in recent seasons, they'll settle on a veteran wing (unless Green blows them away) for insurance purposes.

With Daye, clearly they wanted to see if he could be Bonner's replacement. They obviously came to the conclusion that he couldn't, so at this point, he was just filler. Besides, two non athletic forwards, with no true defensive position, is poor use of roster space, especially for the team that values every last spot more than any other.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Explain to me how seven bigs and one true SF makes sense.

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Explain to me how last season was a failure with the same lineup.

I was OK with last season.

Were you?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Explain to me how last season was a failure with the same lineup.

I was OK with last season.

Were you?

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The question is whether it would make sense to have a more balanced roster, not whether last season was a success or not.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

The question is whether is would make sense to have a more balanced roster, not whether last season was a success or not.

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Did last season's roster make sense to you?

Yes or no.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Nah, I think they wanted to have the flexibility to look at a D-Leaguer or two and then at the end of the regular season, like they've done in recent seasons, they'll settle on a veteran wing (unless Green blows them away) for insurance purposes.

With Daye, clearly they wanted to see if he could be Bonner's replacement. They obviously came to the conclusion that he couldn't, so at this point, he was just filler. Besides, two non athletic forwards, with no true defensive position, is poor use of roster space, especially for the team that values every last spot more than any other.

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I think they were perfectly willing to roll with DeColo last season, until he asked to be traded. Not even sure they targeted Daye at all, they just took a flyer on him in return for DeColo, so it wasn't all that surprising he was waived (although I thought they would do it over the summer). Prince might be a guy they could take a flyer on, due to the Larry Brown connection, but outside of that, I don't expect them to make any moves.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Did last season's roster make sense to you?

Yes or no.

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Would it make sense to have a more balanced roster?

Yes or no.

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Would it make sense to have a more balanced roster?

Yes or no.

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Probably won't make any difference. Just like last year.

So ultimately, just for the sake of doing it -- no.

Did last season's roster make sense to you?

Yes or no.

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I think they were perfectly willing to roll with DeColo last season, until he asked to be traded. Not even sure they targeted Daye at all, they just took a flyer on him in return for DeColo, so it wasn't all that surprising he was waived (although I thought they would do it over the summer). Prince might be a guy they could take a flyer on, due to the Larry Brown connection, but outside of that, I don't expect them to make any moves.

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Prince is Clippers bound, once the Celtics realize that no one is giving up a thing for him and buy him out. He's from LA, Rivers loves players who were good 5 years ago in the East and they have a gaping hole at SF.

I suspect the Spurs will add insurance of some kind, but probably not until the final few days of the regular season.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Probably won't make any difference. Just like last year.

So ultimately, just for the sake of doing it -- no.

Did last season's roster make sense to you?

Yes or no.

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What does last season have to do with this one? And just because it all worked out in the end, it doesn't mean they did everything right.

The back end of last season's roster never made any sense, championship or not.

I think unless they have lost all confidence in Marco, they will roll with what they have and eventually stick with one of the audition players into next season.