Re: Jamychal Green is a PF. Half our roster occupies 2 positions.
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Originally Posted by
Mr Bones
But I think the same can be said of a comparison between Parker's stats and Patty's stats. The temptation is to say they are both listed as PGs, so their stats can be put side by side and evaluated... I don't think this is true. For example, if you compare the stat of turnovers between the two, you might say that Tony is more turnover prone because his TO per 36 min & TO per 100 possessions are higher than Mills's. But Tony always plays PG when he's on the floor and almost always brings the ball up. Mills is usually paired with Manu, who more often than not is handling the typical PG responsibilities, and as a result has an even higher turnover rate than either Tony or Patty. In addition to that, Parker is often paired with Danny Green, who's the least talented ball handler of the four players mentioned. So a straight up comparison of turnovers between Parker and Mills using the stats isn't really relevant. If you paired Mills exclusively with Green, his turnovers would most likely skyrocket. That's where stats get misused or misinterpreted. The impact of who you're on the court with exerts an unreasonable influence on some advanced stats. Kevin Love is a good example: last year, his ORtg/DRtg was 120/104. This year, with totally different teammates, it's 114/107. His VORP last year was 7.0-- this year it's 2.2. Kevin Love hasn't changed in any significant way. What has changed is what's around him.
Patty plays a decent amount of minutes against quality opponents during critical stretches. So his stats are a good basis of comparison to Tony's. All I am saying is the stats of scrubs like Ayres isn't a useful metric given the low usage rate.
I agree though that it depends on the players main responsibilities. Yes, most Spurs stats are low because of the system they play in.
Re: Jamychal Green is a PF. Half our roster occupies 2 positions.
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Originally Posted by
DrunkTXLabrat
Parker/cojo/mills
Green/manu/beli
Kawhi/daye
Diaw/anderson/bonner/green
Timmy/tiago/baynes/ayers
Daye or ayers?
Niether, Glen Rice Jr!
oh and Bonner, get rid of Bonner for Brandon Davies.
Re: Jamychal Green is a PF. Half our roster occupies 2 positions.
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Originally Posted by
Mr Bones
You know what's funny? Ayres has been an ORtg/DRtg monster for most of his career! This year, He's at 117/102. In theory-- especially to advanced metrics followers-- he's the perfect bench player. Interestingly though, no one at Spurstalk who uses any statistical argument in the ever ongoing Parker/Manu/Mills/Cojo/Belinelli debate ever chooses to bring up Aryes' glittering numbers here:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pendej02.html
Subtle.
