'Iceman' Gervin: 'I don't feel' Klay 'broke my record'

I love George, but he should just congratulate Klay and move on. Holding any record in the NBA for nearly 40 years is a huge feat.

Doesn't he have any PR guys who can suggest the 3 point thing? Shouldn't come from the man himself.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

What a bunch of horseshit. Spoken like a true Millennial or young person who never watched the NBA when it wasn't watered-down like it is now. Yes, get the fuck off the lawn. No one is laughing at Ice or considering him a petty hater for his comments - but you. Dude followed up his 20 pt first quarter with 33 in the second. He doesn't have to grab at straws for respect. He earned it with multiple scoring titles, not some fluke game.

This isn't about glorifying one's heyday either. The difference in talent level between today's NBA and what it was in the past is significant. Haven't you learned anything from watching the Spurs? What good does athleticism do for you when you get intentionally fouled because you can't make a fucking FT - Dwight Howard, DeAndre Jordan...? Nothing.

Many of today's players would cry like pussies if they played back in the day with the Lakers, Pistons and Celtics of the 80's. It was a much more physical game - no flopping, no flagrant fouls, no sympathy. I don't care how fast, agile or strong today's athletes are, if they didn't have the skills to go along with their athleticism, they wouldn't last on the court.

Basketball smarts and talent will always trump athleticism. You think a 6'9 Magic Johnson would get schooled nowadays? You think a guy like John Stockton would struggle against today's point guards? I don't remember him dunking very often but he's the all-time assist and steals leader.

SMH at youthful ignorance.

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:rolleyes and as usual, the argument could be reversed. all those guys who defended players physically in the 80's would struggle to adjust to today's game. they'd foul out in 5 minutes

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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones

I love George, but he should just congratulate Klay and move on. Holding any record in the NBA for nearly 40 years is a huge feat.

Doesn't he have any PR guys who can suggest the 3 point thing? Shouldn't come from the man himself.

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I agree, he sounds salty as many said by talking about this here and saying it should not count. Congrats and move on. I think he never thought it would be broken and then when it was just could not take it and had to speak out on it for some reason? I don't get it I thought he would be more classy than that and say good for him and say I held it for a while and so on but he came off as kind of it is not broken and can't accept it.

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Originally Posted by DMC

I get all this and all, but still.. Klay broke his record. Doesn't make him better than Gervin, but still... he broke it.

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Exactly.

even if some big-man broke the record without taking a 3, he would probably whine about how "i dont feel like my record was broken, defenses were a lot tougher and they didnt call as many fouls back then"

Another argument for Gervin......back in the 70's and 80's, goonery and thuggery was so prevalent in the NBA with the big men, players driving to the hoop literally would get shanked by a big with nothing more than a nod and a wink from the refs.

Honestly this is like a father v. son contests. Back in the day... This has turned quite interesting. I always wished I had lived in the 60's early 70's. Imagine the old WWII vet having a discussion with a kid refusing to go to Vietnam. I think we need another "generation gap".

Shaq and Barkley are reverting to old man form, which at times can be entertaining.

This discussion has devolved in to some sort of (us vs. them) or (past vs. current) - and I'm partly guilty of taking it that direction, but it should be about rules. Klay Thompson's performance was nothing short of amazing. He was perfect! 13-13, 9-9 on threes and 2-2 from FT line. No one can take that away from him and he is in the record books for 37 pts. in a quarter. Even better for his team, almost every one of those points was necessary and helped his team.

All that being said, I can see how George Gervin feels he still owns "A" record because there were no 3 ptrs back when he claimed it the first time. Klay got an extra 9 bonus points from behind the arc. Ok, so give Ice the asterisk. I don't think he's bitter or salty, I think he had a valid point.

As a huge Gervin fan, it really doesn't matter. Galileo and I know that Ice still owns the record for most points scored between the middle of the third until the middle of the fourth quarter during a weekend game. :p:

Seriously, I wonder how fans, media and players would react if Klay scored 101 points in today's three-point happy NBA. Great accomplishment for sure, but don't think there wouldn't be an asterisk next to it.

Tbh, the record don't care about what Gervin feels tbh.

Record still gonna show Klay as the top scorer for a single quarter.

I never cared much for records that were intentionally broken in basketball (other than winning). When you leave a guy out there and run your offense through him just to get him some record recognition (David's 71 pts to seal the scoring title) it defeats the purpose of the record. Now you have the tail wagging the dog. That's not what happened with Klay, otherwise Kerr plays him in the 4th as well. If you're not trying to win a championship, what are you trying to do?