**Official 2015 Free Agency Thread**

Yes, the SuperBowl was less than 3 weeks ago, but we are already kicking off into the offseason.

Coaching staffs have been filled, the combine is in session, and teams are officially able to apply the franchise tag to players (they have until March 2) and are probably furiously negotiating to avoid resorting to that.

Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas are fully expected to stay with their current teams, the rest of the big name free agents are primed to hit the market...

Ndamukong Suh, Justin Houston, Randall Cobb, Greg Hardy, Mike Iupati, Julius Thomas, DeMarco Murray, Byron Maxwell, Jerry Hughes, Terrence Knighton, Jordan Cameron, Torrey Smith, Jason Pierre-Paul, Darren McCourty, Brian Bulaga are among the big names that come to mind.

So far the only notable move has been Larry Fitzgerald restructuring his deal to stay in Arizona.

I've never seen anywhere where a guy who has accomplished what he has in such a short time gets so little respect. What is this really about? So he plays on a great team, so have tons of great/HOF QB's.

What more does the guy have to do? He is the most succesful third year QB in history, that isn't enought?

Amazing~~~~~~~~

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I've never seen anywhere where a guy who has accomplished what he has in such a short time gets so little respect. What is this really about? So he plays on a great team, so have tons of great/HOF QB's.

What more does the guy have to do? He is the most succesful third year QB in history, that isn't enought?

Amazing~~~~~~~~

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What the fuck are you even talking about?

Bye-Bye Byron :depressed

Q: Could your approach to free agency change. Last year you needed volume. This year you’ve got a foundation and could you concentrate money on one or two as opposed to getting a bunch?


Reggie McKenzie: I'm going to try and go after good players. I Don't think last year, I felt like we need more role players. Now we're looking for some guys who can come in and be impact (players). Be starters. More so. So in volume, that way, I'm looking for less volume that way. I don't need as many backup players. We need to get stronger. We're going to go after some real players.

translation: yeah, i fucked up in free agency last year. gna go after bigger names this time around

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Bye-Bye Byron :depressed

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Losing Thurmond, Browner, and Maxwell in b2b summers hurts. Jeremy Lane is the next man up and they really didn't have anybody else last year

they should pay maxwell instead of russell wilson

Would love Iupati...hopefully Roman convinces him to come to Buffalo. Cameron would be a nice pick-up as well (at the right price). If we get those 2 pieces we'll have only 1 glaring weakness left on the roster...QB

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Losing Thurmond, Browner, and Maxwell in b2b summers hurts. Jeremy Lane is the next man up and they really didn't have anybody else last year

they should pay maxwell instead of russell wilson

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There's a possibility we get Thurmond back. Although, if there's one position we're really good at drafting, it's DB. And keep in mind this was Simon's first real season seeing the field. He was hurt and didn't get extensive practice reps at the minimum. He even didn't see action this year until several games in. So while everyone has written him off, he has the ability to improve as he sees more reps. BB wrote his own ticket out of the program.

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Would love Iupati...hopefully Roman convinces him to come to Buffalo. Cameron would be a nice pick-up as well (at the right price). If we get those 2 pieces we'll have only 1 glaring weakness left on the roster...QB

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The Bills have about 31 mil in cap space (without making any cuts), and since there aren't really an FA qb's, i'm guessing they'll look to address those positions you mentioned. might also look into a running back with Spiller probably leaving and Fred Jackson continuing to get up there.

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Would love Iupati...hopefully Roman convinces him to come to Buffalo. Cameron would be a nice pick-up as well (at the right price). If we get those 2 pieces we'll have only 1 glaring weakness left on the roster...QB

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Thought you guys were trying to sign McCown, but it seems the deal fell through. What happened?

It's probably for the best tbh...

bills are a lock to sign hoyer imo. Mccourty should stay, i hope, but being a pats fan in the offseason, you never know. In the end i think the biggest story, is Julius Thomas. If they can't resign him, the afc is even more wide open.

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What the fuck are you even talking about?

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Who else? His dream-lover Wilson, of course.

For the Chargers I would like some type of offensive lineman and Dan Williams to start with, in addition to resigning people like Dunlap and Flowers.

This is why a team in London wouldn't work, free agency. Who is moving their family to England or leave them? How many single guys do we see at 28ish?

As far as my Niners go, we need a speed receiver. A guy who can scare defenses, we haven't had that since Owens.

I do buy signing proven vets over the draft.

Wilson expected to take less money in exchange for having a fully guaranteed contract :wow

as for the raiders, they have all the room in the world to offer anything to anybody. iupati and cobb would fill big needs offensively. defensively, need linemen and a middle linebacker. Suh has hinted that he'd go to the highest bidder, but it still sounds like he's staying in detroit. Oakland is heavily expected to pursue and land Terrance Knighton. possible MLB's include Malauga, Nate Irving

Struggle gonna tap dat ass even worse than originally thought. The guy obviously knows his limitations and knows he is bound to fail without Teamleader

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Struggle gonna tap dat ass even worse than originally thought. The guy obviously knows his limitations and knows he is bound to fail without Teamleader

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Losing a 4.4 back in Lynch while having a 4.0 back in Turpin who is actually faster, hmmmm?

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Losing a 4.4 back in Lynch while having a 4.0 back in Turpin who is actually faster, hmmmm?

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AL Davis? Is that you?

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AL Davis? Is that you?

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Nope, just know about Turbin and how he's not the huge down grade most think he'd be. And yes he is faster than Lynch.

Who the fuck cares that Turbin is faster than Lynch when he's nowhere near as good as Lynch? For the millionth time, faggot, speed =/= football skill.

I retract who I want the Chargers to get. I don't care anymore and I will stop being a fan completely once they move to LA.

Panthers supposedly targeting Crabtree

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Who the fuck cares that Turbin is faster than Lynch when he's nowhere near as good as Lynch? For the millionth time, faggot, speed =/= football skill.

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Do you work at being stupid? So tell me faggot do know anything at all about Robert Turbin? You don't do you? Yes he's not Marshawn Lynch but he's more than adequate and can get the job done. His average per carry close to Lynchs. And, with his speed they might try a different approach, more outside stuff, more receiving.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWs28ujqoCQ

Here's where your dumb ass.....that's college, hahaha!!!!!!!!

Trust me stupid how fast a back runs the 40 is a very very big deal, only a dumb fuck like you wouldn't know this.

You know why Jerry Rice wasn't taken sooner, of course not, well it was his 40 time. Hey stupid ya know why your Chargers brought in WR sprinter Willie McGee? How about Tennesse speedster Anthony Miller?

Damn you're dumb~~~~

if raiders get cobb and draft amari :wow

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if raiders get cobb and draft amari :wow

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would be better if they signed julius thomas imo

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would be better if they signed julius thomas imo

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lol no. he's gna get overpaid, hopefully not by us. i'd rather go after virgil green if i wanted a denver TE

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lol no. he's gna get overpaid, hopefully not by us. i'd rather go after virgil green if i wanted a denver TE

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8,5 per seems good value if you're the raiders.. i'm pretty sure carr needs that type of weapon.. along with cooper, would be quite the combo.

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8,5 per seems good value if you're the raiders.. i'm pretty sure carr needs that type of weapon.. along with cooper, would be quite the combo.

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i'd never make that move if i were GM. he can't block, is essentially a red-zone specialist (a damn good one), and was probably inflated some by manning

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i'd never make that move if i were GM. he can't block, is essentially a red-zone specialist (a damn good one), and was probably inflated some by manning

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well red zone efficiency is one of the biggest issues of your team. Considering the amount of cap space, i'd do it, i mean it's the most talent deficient position in football, these kind of players don't grow on trees.

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well red zone efficiency is one of the biggest issues of your team. Considering the amount of cap space, i'd do it, i mean it's the most talent deficient position in football, these kind of players don't grow on trees.

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getting into the red zone was a bigger issue for us tbh

being a team without talent doesnt mean you should go overspend for some talent. thats what makes bad teams stay bad.

cobb seems much more an overpay to me. They seem to be in the same price range but the first one plays at one of the least valuable position while the second plays in the most valuable. Not to mention, Carr is a young qb and young qbs have a hard time using slot receivers properly.

Lions cut Reggie Bush... ate 3.5 mil to do so.

Packers cut Hawk

making room for Suh, Cobb potentially

:lol Raiders
:lol Lots of cap space again
:lol Any player with a pulse avoiding them like the plague again
:lol Moving to East St. Louis
:lol Carr Wreck
:lol The Mack Bust
:lol Philo

:lol brain damaged:lol dropped on his head as a child one too many times
:lol literally pm's other posters requesting permission to fellate them
:lol bows down to his spurstalk overlords
:lol doglick.gif

:lol Philo
:lol Paranoid
:lol Thinking I'm PM-ing anybody
:lol Agreeing with good takes = "fellating" or "bowing down to SpursTalk overlords"
:lol Raiders

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:lol Raiders
:lol Lots of cap space again
:lol Any player with a pulse avoiding them like the plague again
:lol Moving to East St. Louis
:lol Carr Wreck
:lol The Mack Bust
:lol Philo

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Raiders three times SB champs, the Chargers got their ass kicked by my Niners the one time they made it.

The only Cali team to have never won a SB.

Good signing, and a former McCloughan pick when he was in San Francisco. Had a pretty good year last year in Indy, and a lot of fans liked him in Indy for his work ethic, but was getting paid too much to be a backup. Will provide depth either behind Jason Hatcher, or whoever our other DE will be after FA, and the draft (Hopefully Leonard Williams drops). Glad Bowen and/or Golston will be finally gone.

I actually though Merriweather played well at times last year. He didn't get any interceptions for a safety, but he did other things well at times and really didn't get burned as many times compared to Ryan Clark. Yeah they're better safeties out there than him in FA, and in the draft but he wouldn't be a bad backup imo, if we strike out in FA or McCloughan's big secondary player look he likes isn't there in the draft . Hoping Landon Collins from Alabama falls to the second round, and our new secondary coach who was the defensive coordinator for the Giants last year can teach him some coverage skills compared to the clown Raheem Morris.

Browns signed Josh McCown to a 3 year deal

:lol manziel
:lol FkLA

Darnell Dockett is, well, on the docket if any team is interested. I'm guessing he finds his way to Indy.

Hoyer to the Bills somewhat makes sense now

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Browns signed Josh McCown to a 3 year deal

:lol manziel
:lol FkLA

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:lmao

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Browns signed Josh McCown to a 3 year deal

:lol manziel
:lol FkLA

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:lol Career over after two games
:lol Aggy

Sisk Thompson DesignatedT

monday is the last day teams can slap on the franchise tag. dez and demaryius are the locks to receive it

- Chiefs applied the tag to Justin Houston. Demaryius and Dez are expected to get it to

- Though expected, the Lions officially announce they wont' tag Suh. They have also brought in recently cut Kendall Langford, another 3-tec, for a visit. A potential replacement. Langford will be a solid pickup for just about any team...

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- Chiefs applied the tag to Justin Houston. Demaryius and Dez are expected to get it to

- Though expected, the Lions officially announce they wont' tag Suh. They have also brought in recently cut Kendall Langford, another 3-tec, for a visit. A potential replacement. Langford will be a solid pickup for just about any team...

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the Raiders tagging anyone?

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the Raiders tagging anyone?

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nope.

Wonder if this means Tamba Hali is gone from KC...

Teams can't negotiate with free agents till next week, so this will be a drag. The only players who can visit/negotiate/sign are guys who have been cut since the end of the season

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Teams can't negotiate with free agents till next week, so this will be a drag. The only players who can visit/negotiate/sign are guys who have been cut since the end of the season

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Pretty sure team can visit and negotiate starting tomorrow. They just can't officially agree to a new deal.

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Pretty sure team can visit and negotiate starting tomorrow. They just can't officially agree to a new deal.

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think thats on the 7th. signings can be done on the 10th

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think thats on the 7th. signings can be done on the 10th

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It's not a full week? All right. I stand corrected.

yeah, today's just a news day because its franchise tag day

Giants tag JPP... don't like that move

Gostkowski tagged...no surprise A Boy Named Suh is not.

Tagged:

Justin Houston, Kansas City Chiefs, linebacker:The NFL's leading sack-man with 22 in 2014 will remain under Andy Reid's guidance. Just 26, Houston has made three straight Pro Bowls and was the key to theChiefs front-seven dominance last year. The linebacker won't sign the tag ($13.195 million) right away, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports.

Demaryius Thomas, Denver Broncos, wide receiver:The wideout earned 469 targets, 297 receptions, 4,483 yards, 15.1 yards per reception and 35 touchdowns over the past three seasons with Peyton Manning at the helm. Keeping him in Denver was the Broncos' offseason priority. Now they hope to use the ($12.823 million) tag leverage to get a long-term deal done.

Dez Bryant, Dallas Cowboys, wide receiver: A long-term deal will be tricky to work out, but Jerry Jones made it clear he would never let Bryant walk away. This means that DeMarco Murray should hit free agency and will probably leave Dallas.

Jason Pierre-Paul, New York Giants, defensive end:Rapoport broke the news that JPP will remain a Giant. Tagging him will cost the Giants $14.813 million, so they will desperately try to work out a long-term contract. Observers slept on Pierre-Paul's quietly excellent 2014 campaign which included dominant run-stopping play. The Giants know how valuable he is.

Stephen Gostkowski, New England Patriots, kicker: Rapoport reported that the Patriots havefranchise tagged Gostkowski. His tag carries a $4.56 million figure.

Charles Clay, Miami Dolphins, tight end: Clay received the Dolphins' transition tag, the team announced. Clay will receive $7.701 million under the under the transition tag. Clay can sign an offer sheet with any team he wants, but the Dolphins will have the right to match any contract.


Not Tagged:

Ndamukong Suh, Detroit Lions, defensive tackle: In the end the $26.8 million tag number proved too rich for the Lions' brass. Suh will be the rare Hall-of-Fame-caliber player to hit free agency in his prime. Jockeying for his services should thrust his contract north of the six-year, $100 million deal J.J. Watt signed.

Julius Thomas, Denver Broncos, tight end: By tagging Demaryius Thomas the Broncos will allow the tight end to test free agency. Many teams are said to be interested in pursuing the uber-athletic pass catcher. His market will likely price him out of Denver.

DeMarco Murray, Dallas Cowboys, running back: The Cowboys will find out if it was their offensive line or Murray that truly made their running game roll in 2014. He's likely to get paid more elsewhere.

Devin McCourty, New England Patriots, safety: Following the Patriots' decision to franchise tag Gostkowski, McCourty will likely hit the free agent market.

Randall Cobb, Green Bay Packers, wide receiver: The Packers have plenty of cap space and want to retain the shifty receiver, but not at the $12.823 million-level. Cobb will be the top free agent target for receiver-needy teams.

Jeremy Maclin, Philadelphia Eagles, wide receiver: Maclin bet on himself last year and it paid off. The receiver is confident a deal could get done in Philly -- an offense that might be his best fit -- however he could find interest from teams like the Chiefs who have a need at the position and a connection with Andy Reid.

Jerry Hughes, Buffalo Bills, defensive lineman: A top-10 free agent on our 101 list, Hughes has averaged 10.0 sacks and 40 quarterback hurries over the past two years. He should get plenty of attention on the open market.

Jordan Cameron, Cleveland Browns, tight end: Cameron has concussion questions to answer, but is the next best available tight end after Julius Thomas to hit the open market without strings attached.

since the jags have the most cap, they should throw money at suh, mccourty and hughes

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since the jags have the most cap, they should throw money at suh, mccourty and hughes

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are they gna make any cuts to add more space? they're sitting at 65 mil in space. once the raiders officially cut branch/woodley/schaub/mjd they'll be up to about 69.5

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are they gna make any cuts to add more space? they're sitting at 65 mil in space. once the raiders officially cut branch/woodley/schaub/mjd they'll be up to about 69.5

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we might cut marcedes and poz, which would put us at 84m. with that much cap space i want at least 3 big name FAs tbh

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we might cut marcedes and poz, which would put us at 84m. with that much cap space i want at least 3 big name FAs tbh

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i think at this point we're frontrunners for Cobb... Suh seems like a lottery ticket between a handful of teams including Oak/Jax/Det. at least if that doesn't happen, we're basically a lock to get Knighton as a consolation prize

I'm pretty sure the Colts will go after Suh/Knighton/McCourty

the Colts have to handle Luck's extension before signing other big money guys

Woah!

Kendall Langford visiting with the Jets... still prioritizing defense when their O has held them back for a decade

the Raiders and Jags are expected to make offers to Cobb that exceed Green Bay's... don't get why the Jags are trying to make such a big push for Cobb... they drafted Marqise Lee and Alan Robinson last year, took Ace Sanders the year before, Allen Hurns was productive for an undrafted rookie, and they're optimistic Blackmon will be back this season. Dumping 9+ mil on another receiver makes little sense for a team that needs a lot of talent elsewhere.

Bears looking to trade Brandon Marshall
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...medium=twitter

Raiders expected to bring Suh in for a visit, per Michael Silver. Can't formally have a visit set up though, otherwise it's tampering

That would be a huge get for the L.A. Raiders...

raiders getting suh would be the ultimate shot in the leg tbh. You can bet he'd tear his acl 5 minutes into the season.

Raiders are also being described is the heavy frontrunners to land Cobb. They'll overpay, but I still think its the right move. Have to invest in your QB...

Greg Hardy could be one of the biggest steals in recent FA history if all his shit gets cleared

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Greg Hardy could be one of the biggest steals in recent FA history if all his shit gets cleared

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word, that's why the raiders won't take him :lol

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word, that's why the raiders won't take him :lol

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yeah, i dont think they're looking in that direction. not the distraction the team needs. the DE i want in this free agent class is Jabaal Sheard from Cleveland. people are talking up Jerry Hughes from Buffalo but I think he'll be overpaid

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yeah, i dont think they're looking in that direction. not the distraction the team needs. the DE i want in this free agent class is Jabaal Sheard from Cleveland. people are talking up Jerry Hughes from Buffalo but I think he'll be overpaid

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he's 26 and an all pro.. He also didn't really do shit and got hosed big time. If your team can't pounce on this chance, i don't know..

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he's 26 and an all pro.. He also didn't really do shit and got hosed big time. If your team can't pounce on this chance, i don't know..

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there's a lot of teams that can pounce on the chance... the raiders aren't the only team in the league with the opportunity.

in other news, MJD retired... :cry Holden_Caulfield

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there's a lot of teams that can pounce on the chance... the raiders aren't the only team in the league with the opportunity.

in other news, MJD retired... :cry Holden_Caulfield

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you guys are spending 20M less than the closest in cap spending.

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you guys are spending 20M less than the closest in cap spending.

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we also have 5x more needs than most teams. making a big commitment to a guy that may or may not be reinstated isn't a sound move for a team that cant afford slips

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we also have 5x more needs than most teams. making a big commitment to a guy that may or may not be reinstated isn't a sound move for a team that cant afford slips

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that's exactly why it should be done. Something in the lines of 5 year 6per year if he'd accept it, would be fucking huge.

Raiders get back a little of the Commitment to Criminals mojo that's been missing for a couple decades...

Fuck that Indy better sign Suh or Hardy. I'm tired of watching a tissue paper soft defense every year.

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Teams can start meeting and negotiating with players/agents at 4pm eastern today

be on the lookout for hoards of fake twitter accounts for the next couple of weeks


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:lol Holden_Caulfield


at this point, tea leaves seem to suggest Suh to Miami, Cobb/Pot Roast to oakland

If Kareem Jackson is getting that much money god only knows how much Revis/McCourty are gonna command. Fuck.

i'd just leave mccourty and revis tbh, let other teams fuck their future.If mccourty can be signed for a normal figure ok, but revis, just fuck him.

Not sure why Pats fans are surprised, a money/contract whore like Revis was never going to last long with a penny-pincher like Kraft.

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i'd just leave mccourty and revis tbh, let other teams fuck their future.If mccourty can be signed for a normal figure ok, but revis, just fuck him.

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:lol right, fuck the single biggest reason our secondary didn't massively suck this year like it did the previous 4-5 years. Revis is way more valuable than McCourty.

The only reason people are even trying to compare McCourty's impact to Revis's is because Revis was signed as a free agent while McCourty is a :cryBelichick guy!:cry

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Not sure why Pats fans are surprised, a money/contract whore like Revis was never going to last long with a penny-pincher like Kraft.

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Revis took less money to come to NE last year (he had bigger offers), and I'm not sure how Kraft is cheap. He's spent money whenever Belichick has wanted him to, and the Patriots are struggling to get under the cap right now.

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I'm not sure how Kraft is cheap.

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he's a jew

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:lol wow

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he's a jew

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good one!

Cap Space:

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Tuesday should be fun....Jags & Raiders with a lot of $$$ to spend.

Cobb re-signed with the Packers... 4 years 40 mil

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Cobb re-signed with the Packers... 4 years 40 mil

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IMO it's a blessing in disguise for Oakland. Granted, Carr is better than the trash Minny has had at QB recently, but I didn't see Cobb being any better on a rebuilding team than Jennings has been for the Vikings.

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IMO it's a blessing in disguise for Oakland. Granted, Carr is better than the trash Minny has had at QB recently, but I didn't see Cobb being any better on a rebuilding team than Jennings has been for the Vikings.

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we were going to overspend for Cobb... but honestly where the hell else are we going to dump 70 mil in one offseason :lol

crazy that the packers are actually paying cobb more than jordy. also... cobb is 25, jennings is past his prime. maybe we can go after maclin, but i feel like he's a lock to stay with philly

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we were going to overspend for Cobb... but honestly where the hell else are we going to dump 70 mil in one offseason :lol

crazy that the packers are actually paying cobb more than jordy

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IMO they should go easy on free agent spending. I know it's easy to say as a NE fan but when teams spend huge in free agency it rarely ever works.

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IMO they should go easy on free agent spending. I know it's easy to say as a NE fan but when teams spend huge in free agency it rarely ever works.

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we need to spend a shit ton of money just to hit the spending floor. when most teams dont want to spend too much, its because you get caught up with bad deals, have to make bad cuts/restructures.... we literally have 70 million in room. we have to do SOMETHING with it. getting weapons to invest in Carr is an obvious move.